seemed guilty as all hell. funny how the questioning went right down party lines. Rep for Clemens Dem for Macnamby

now i am hearing that both bush senior and junior called clemens to give there support. also bush will pardon him if he is indited....so he goes after bonds but will pardon clemons :what

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guilty.

i thought the biggest liars and dumbasses in the room were the senators. what a joke that whole group is. yay guvrnmint!!

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Q: “Have you ever been a vegetarian?” A: No Q: “Have you ever been a vegan?”

A: ............................................................I dont know what that is.

Seriously what kind of questions were they asking?

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idiots. all of them.

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It was embarassing on so many levels my favorite word of the proceedings was "misremembering" Clemens looked pretty dumb the public embarrassment should be enough unless they plan to prosecute everyone else intertwined with this steroid issue.

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I still think the both of them are guilty. Do the crime, do the time.

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Listened to it live the other day... as much as I hate to think it, I believe Clemens is guilty.

Macnamby also mentioned Pennet, and Knobloch, both who came forward and confessed.

If Bush pardons him that's bull shit. I agree with Collins^^^

[quote=jeffrey collins;569548]I still think the both of them are guilty. Do the crime, do the time.[/quote]

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The reason I think he's guilty is b/c McNamee said he injected three players; 2 of those 3 confirmed this account, Clemens is the only one who's denying it...

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^^^^lol he is not denying it...he just is saying Petite "misremembermed" when they talked....he was really talking about his wife getting injected in the arse.

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ok i've heard a lot of opinions and probably skewed facts about this entire situation. HGH was not actually illegal in baseball until recently... specifically, when they found out so many people were using it and the govt started putting loads of pressure on MLB (rightfully so). the same thing happened with creatine when baseball found out tons of people were using it... it is a power enhancer that provides an unfair advantage. so they ban it. clemens obviously took HGH, but it wasn't illegal at the time he did. i know clemens has lied about using it which he is stupid for doing, but give the guy a break. can't say i blame him because everyone will treat him differently if HE admits to using it compared to anyone else that admits it. if you want to blame someone, blame the MLB. they severely fucked this up so badly and they should have addressed this issue long ago. end of story!!

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you dont inject HGH in your arse do you? (i dont know, I'm asking) I think he used 'roids too.. either way he lied and needs to be held accountable.. these high dollar athletes cant just always think they are above the law.

We will never for sure what he did and didnt do because as soon as someone is fingered, they hide behind their lawyer immediately and instead of trying to prove their innocence they work harder at discrediting the finger pointer. its all a circus anyway.

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yeah, you inject HGH. in your ass if your poto. :p

and spot on, steve. nobody should be held above the law... including the mlb for turning their heads. like you said, we'll probably never know the truth behind clemens and a lot of other players because they hide behind their lawyers and the media always construes stories to make you believe what they want you to believe. oh well... i'll still watch it next season :D

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what's annoying to me is baseball in general, and the government. i'm sooooo fucking sick of the gov. and moreover, sick of the gov. in my sports. as an american, i just want something the gov doesn't interfere in...something that's mine, anything- thought at least sports was it. But no, i have to listen to these twats on capitol hill question my sports- fuck off the lot of them.

and fuck baseball. how does bud selig still have a job? that fact is beyond comprehension. i live in arguably one of the best baseball cities in america, and i'm seriously thinking about boycotting the entire season- not supporting it one second.

i drank the kool-ade when mcgwire was hitting a thousand home runs a season a few years ago, now i'm just disgusted.

also consider the fact that there are only a few powerhouses in baseball, only a few teams that have a legitimate shot at winning it all at the beginning of the season...and i'm just sick of it all.

i'm water sporting it all season this year. fk those guys.

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It a fucking lame sport with fucking cheaters.

Yeah! Baseball! Pathetic.

I have lost all respect and it was not much.

Go Golf!

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^^^^ haha, see they are starting to drug test golfers soon? ridiculous, but at least nip it before the cheating even starts. i dont think anyone can accuse John Daly of using performance enhancing drugs.. unless cholesterol, nicotine and alcohol are performance enhancing, lol

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yeah no doubt. haha.

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[QUOTE=Jenks;573276] i live in arguably one of the best baseball cities in america, and i'm seriously thinking about boycotting the entire season- not supporting it one second. [/QUOTE]

Got my season tix in the mail two days ago, and for the first time since I've been getting them, I was just like "meh"

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so, now rumour has it Clemens may get a presidential pardon? this just gets better and better

Rio Ferdinand (england, manchester united footballer) misses, yes MISSES a drugs test and gets an 18 month ban.. this asshole is lying out his arse and may get a fucking presidential pardon?

yup, thats about right, lol

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alcohol usually helps my golf game. ;)

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[quote=Steve Graham;573477]^^^^ haha, see they are starting to drug test golfers soon? ridiculous, but at least nip it before the cheating even starts. i dont think anyone can accuse John Daly of using performance enhancing drugs.. unless cholesterol, nicotine and alcohol are performance enhancing, lol[/quote]

he should have been a darts player for sure

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oh Clemens you're a fuckin gem.. of course you flat out deny having an affair, we expect nothing less than lies spewing from your cake hole.. roid user and a paedophile (allegedly)

how fast can one person go from top of the world to bottom of the cesspool

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loser... lost complete respect for that guy. especially if he had something going on before she was of legal age! piece of trash if all this is true... which i'm 99.99% sure it is.

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ps, kids - don't lie. look what happens when you lie. if he would have come out and tell the truth up front, the affair never would have been questioned. he's stupid to think he's invincible.

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man, what a fking DOUCHE clemens turned out to be.

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LOL he is also now reported with hooking up with John Dalys ex wife......hillarious. what a complete loser.

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haha ya that fool sure froze up nice and stupid.:banned: its a pity, MLB has been juiced for years now. so many players have been doin' it. its amusing to see the leagues, media etc. just starting to really catch on to this issue over the past few years. meh.