I found it funny ESPN was saying the NFL product is down. So is ESPN's, do you remember the days you could watch sportscenter twice after getting back from a DJ set while chowing down.

NFL , movies, ESPN down while MLB, Tv are up ... Im waiting to see what NBA and NCAA does.

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Sportscenter died when Start Scott, RIP, died unfortunately.

I find it shitty to only be able to see 4 games on Sunday network TV. The beaurocracy of the NFL and the Players Association bothers me as well but when $$ and men/jocks are involved, I guess I'm not surprised.

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The NFL isn't compelling to me anymore (especially after they yanked my team out of my city, twice.) I'm not invested in any of the new classes of athletes; the games are either predictable or boring (ties, field goal showdown, blowouts); and in what has become an obvious profit grab over all else for Goodell/Ownership, I can't even bring myself to watch it anymore.

NCAA on Saturdays is a whole different animal and I love it. Momentum shifts during the game, upsets are possible every week, storylines/traditions are more appealing. Now that they've got a decent enough playoff system, NCAA is the only football I'm watching.

As for ESPN, the only thing worth watching on that channel these days is 30 for 30.

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Ditto what Jenks said. Except for the part about having my team yanked out of my city; although, I really wish someone would spare me the heartache and take the Bucs. You want 'em, Jenks?

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[QUOTE=skahound;1193160]Ditto what Jenks said. Except for the part about having my team yanked out of my city; although, I really wish someone would spare me the heartache and take the Bucs. You want 'em, Jenks?[/QUOTE]

haha, no, you can keep them. we almost moved to St. Pete recently. almost. anyway, it's hockey season. and what's up dude??!!! long time no see/hear/speak/write/carrier pigeon/etc. 8)

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What almost brought you to St. Pete? With everything St. Pete has these days, the Mrs. and I only cross the bridge to Tampa for one reason anymore - Lightning games.

Things are going well here. Traveling a lot for work, which sucks when you have a family; but, staying busy and making money so it's all good. How are things with you guys?

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It's getting better now, Thankful for Football on Thanksgiving!

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This weekend is being called the "QB Final Four". Also being called 2nd best since '93. Damn.

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i admit that i'm now a cowboy fan now that i live in DFW. never thought i would be, but i've always admired and respected dak and his story since he was a qb at Miss St so i kind of became a fan this season.

having said that, one thing that REALLY irritated me all season was how the media was grabbing at stories and trying to create controversy just so they could have their story. i was really happy to see that dak and tony romo (and zeke elliott to some degree) rose above it, [B]but the divisiveness of the media took a lot of the enjoyment out of it. i was sick of turning on espn and plenty of other news sources hearing their "news" around the NFL that wasn't really news. they keep doing that, they are going to ruin the NFL themselves.[/B]

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The shining star from Clemson to Houston ...

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Anyone got any horses heading to the playoffs?

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Did the 49ers just beat the Jags?

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Anyone's team trying to get in tomorrow? Any fans of Peterman?

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We got the 2nd overall pick, how about you?

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Beli to NYG ?

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Old man Coughlin returns to the playoffs tomorrow and his old team's not there.

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Anybody else putting respect on Tyrod's name? How about the all the pass plays called in the red zone?

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Old Man Coughlin v. Pats rematch.