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Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

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#180203Post 1 of 48

This has been up online for about a while but whenever i've clicked on it the t/list put me off - however, upon listening it seems the tracklist was completely wrong and it turns out this is one of the best sets from [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=5"]Sasha[/URL] i've ever heard - took me right back to when i was following the Northern Exposure tour everywhere - I don't know all that many of the tracks which is a rarity for me for this era so be cool to get some IDs ... Flow and mixing are both spot on - starts off techy then goes more trippy and acidic before ramping up to more usual prog stuff. I suspect there's some Pablo Gargano and Hook records stuff in there as i recongise some things but my drug addled brain can't recall titles..

Well worth a listen..

[URL="https://www.mixcloud.com/erikthredd/sasha-19961128-live-good-lifebetter-daystoronto-part-1/"]Part 1 - Mixcloud[/URL]

[URL="https://www.mixcloud.com/erikthredd/sasha-19961128-live-good-lifebetter-daystoronto-part-2/"]Part 2 - Mixcloud[/URL]

part 1

  1. [00] ID
  2. [02] ID
  3. [07] Garbage - Milk (Rabbit In The Moon Remix)
  4. [15] ID
  5. [20] Robert Miles - One and One (Morales Journey Mix)
  6. [29] Van Basten - Instinct
  7. [34] Cruzeman - Aum-Sessions
  8. [42] ID
  9. [46] Van Basten - Speed of Sound
  10. [56] Amorph - Elaminoid
  11. [62] Mikerobenics - Julika (Pascal FEOS Remix)
  12. [69] ID
  13. [76] ID
  14. [83] ID
  15. [89] Liquid Art - Explorer

part 2

  1. [00:00] DeNiro - Elan Vital [Hook Recordings] trance
  2. [05:30] Blue Alphabet - Timetable (Shades Of Tears EP) [Bonzai]
  3. [12:00] Front 242 - Happiness (Underworld Mix) [Red Rhino Europe]
  4. [17:00] MikeroBenics - Julika (Comes To Late Mix)
  5. [26:00] Dawntreader - Dominion (Red Room Mix) [Hook Recordings]
  6. [29:30] Liquid Art - Liquid Art [Hook Recordings]
  7. [35:30] Fireball - Breathless [Finiflex] stuttery female
  8. [45:30] Arkarna - House On Fire (Andy Ling Aryan Vocal Mix) acidy/guitar
  9. [55:00] Paganini Traxx - Zoe (Original Mix)
  10. [64:00] Little Jam - Black Hill [Suck Me Plasma]
  11. [68:50] Jayn Hanna - Lost Without You (Evolution's 'Lost In Sound' Dub)
  12. [74:50] Jayn Hanna - Lost Without You (Edge Factor Journey) ---last track
  13. Chicane - Offshore (Disco Citizens Remix)
#1795594Post 2 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

That isn't the set that originated from here, which was from Better Days. That Erik, seems to make a habit of relabeling sets. I will download the mixcloud set and give it a listen.

[url="http://sbradyman.angelfire.com/bradyman/sasha-better.htm"]DJ Sasha John E @ Better Days Productions UK, Good Life, Toronto, Canada 28-11-96[/url]

#1795595Post 3 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

Yes he is relabeling them

[URL="http://sbradyman.angelfire.com/bradyman/sasha-live96.htm"]Sasha - Live Mix 1996 [/URL]

  1. [00:00] DeNiro - Elan Vital [Hook Recordings] trance
  2. [05:30] Blue Alphabet - Timetable (Shades Of Tears EP) [Bonzai]
  3. [12:00] Front 242 - Happiness (Underworld Mix) [Red Rhino Europe]
  4. [17:00] MikeroBenics - Julika (Comes To Late Mix)
  5. [26:00] Dawntreader - Dominion (Red Room Mix) [Hook Recordings]
  6. [29:30] Liquid Art - Liquid Art [Hook Recordings]
  7. [35:30] Fireball - Breathless [Finiflex] stuttery female
  8. [45:30] Arkarna - House On Fire (Andy Ling Aryan Vocal Mix) acidy/guitar
  9. [55:00] Paganini Traxx - Zoe (Original Mix)
  10. [64:00] Little Jam - Black Hill [Suck Me Plasma]
  11. [68:50] Jayn Hanna - Lost Without You (Evolution's 'Lost In Sound' Dub)
  12. [74:50] Jayn Hanna - Lost Without You (Edge Factor Journey)
#1795596Post 4 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

would this be his site - [URL="https://www.torontoravemixtapearchive.com/house.html"]house - Toronto Rave Mixtape Archive[/URL]

[FONT=&amp]It's a link to a load of Toronto Rave mixtapes and the above mix is on there, listed as the better days mix.. the date of the above tracks would be more in line with the November date that's on that site (and Erick's mixcloud) as I know he was playing these tracks around then as that's when i was going out a ton - i'd suspect Erick's labelling is correct in this instance[/FONT]

The way it's t/listed at the moment:

[URL="https://www.mixesdb.com/w/1996-11-28_-_Sasha,John_E@_Better_Days,_Good_Life,_Toronto"]1996-11-28 - Sasha, John E @ Better Days, Good Life, Toronto | DJ sets tracklists on MixesDB[/URL]

the majority of those tracks came out just before / during summer - he wasn't playing those towards the end of the year

what about the first part btw? any known t/list around for that?

#1795597Post 5 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

The original Better Days mix was posted on Oldskool Anthemz by John E, which is where the flyer also came from. I think that the Toronto site is relabeling them.

I may be wrong but I don't think that he started playing that Slacker track until August 1996. It appears on the EM, but not on the Atlanta set. It also appears on the set recorded at Mark Hunts in September.

#1795598Post 6 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

I'm just waiting for part 1 to download.

#1795600Post 7 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

I found the original thread.

[url="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/showthread.php?54277-Sasha-amp-John-E-Live-Better-Days-Unknown-Date&highlight=Ganesha"][ms][/url]

#1795601Post 8 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

[QUOTE=♫♫♫♫♫♫;1225204]The original Better Days mix was posted on Oldskool Anthemz by John E, which is where the flyer also came from. I think that the Toronto site is relabeling them.

I may be wrong but I don't think that he started playing that Slacker track until August 1996. It appears on the EM, but not on the Atlanta set. It also appears on the set recorded at Mark Hunts in September.[/QUOTE]

I really do think he's mistaken if he did indeed post it stating that- esp something like BBE - Sasha started playing that in March 96 and wouldn't still be playing it in November. I clearly rememebr seeing Sasha in November and December a few times and Arkana, RITM of Milk, Lost without you etc are all in line with that period

#1795602Post 9 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

I suppose that the dude thanking Sasha at the end of the set wouldn't change your opinion. This is someone mislabeling mixes to get exposure for their website.

#1795603Post 10 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

no no - you get me wrong - i'm not syaing it ISN'T a Sasha set, of course it is. The fact is, the dates don't match - it's a set from the middle of that year not from November..

BBE had already been in the UK charts by September! There's no way Sasha would keep playing it (it reached the top 5 if i'm not mistaken)

#1795604Post 11 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

Yet he didn't play them 3 weeks later for the legendary Tripple J Mix Up, which included Swell and Scared.

#1795605Post 12 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

[QUOTE=♫♫♫♫♫♫;1225211]Yet he didn't play them 3 weeks later for the legendary Tripple J Mix Up, which included Swell and Scared.[/QUOTE]

He didn't play BBEon the JJ mix and it didn't include Swell either (i presume you're talking about this one... [URL]https://soundcloud.com/rave_on/sasha-john-digweed-live-jjj-radio-northern-exposure-tour-01011997[/URL] ) - it did however, include Arkana and Jayn Hanna...

unless i'm missing something?

#1795606Post 13 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

I wasn't making reference to BBE

#1795607Post 14 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

Part 1?

  1. [00] ID
  2. [02] ID
  3. [07] Garbage - Milk (Rabbit In The Moon Remix)
  4. [15] ID
  5. [20] Robert Miles - One and One (Morales Journey Mix)
  6. [29] ID
  7. [34] Cruzeman - Aum-Sessions
  8. [42] ID
  9. [46] ID
  10. [56] Amorph - Elaminoid
  11. [62] ID
  12. [69] ID
  13. [76] ID
  14. [83] ID
  15. [89] ID
#1795608Post 15 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

yea sorry - thought you were refering to my last post - wherever it is actually from, it's definitely from that period - and what are the chances of someone purposefully mislablling a set years after the fact but managing to tag roughly the right month on?

Nice one on the ID's - hadn't heard that Amorph one before..

#1795610Post 16 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

Idiots trying to get exposure for their website. If you can falsely label a set, on a date that the artist actually played, it gives it more credence. Part 1 is fake. Part 2 is Sasha, but still from an unknown source.

#1795611Post 17 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

Within days of this set being posted;

[URL="https://www.mixesdb.com/w/1995-07-03_-Sasha@_Nation,_Sound_Factory,_San_Francisco"]1995-07-03 - Sasha @ Nation, Sound Factory, San Francisco | DJ sets tracklists on MixesDB[/URL]

It was being posted on Cream's Facebook page as being from Nation in Liverpool by Liverpool Oldskool, when they clearly knew that it wasn't.

#1795612Post 18 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

part 1 11 Mikerobenics - Julika (Pascal FEOS Remix)

The track at 90 minutes was featured in a lot of sets from that year

The track in the first 30s is in the set from boyd westerman @ simons in 1997

#1795613Post 19 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

[QUOTE=♫♫♫♫♫♫;1225217]Idiots trying to get exposure for their website. If you can falsely label a set, on a date that the artist actually played, it gives it more credence. Part 1 is fake. Part 2 is Sasha, but still from an unknown source.[/QUOTE]

Nah, it's not fake - you can hear DeNiro being mixed in at the end of it and the 2nd part continues on. It's definitely Sasha

Again, BBE was not being played by Sasha in November. Fact is, it's a set from around November - the other set contains tracks that were around before or in summer - sure, he might still be playing the odd one or two come November but he's not going to be playing the whole block of 'em

#1795624Post 20 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

[QUOTE=ce810;1225219]part 1 11 Mikerobenics - Julika (Pascal FEOS Remix)

The track at 90 minutes was featured in a lot of sets from that year

The track in the first 30s is in the set from boyd westerman @ simons in 1997[/QUOTE]

Oh. Well it must be Sasha then.

#1795625Post 21 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

[QUOTE=Jay Robinson;1225220]Nah, it's not fake - you can hear DeNiro being mixed in at the end of it and the 2nd part continues on. It's definitely Sasha

Again, BBE was not being played by Sasha in November. Fact is, it's a set from around November - the other set contains tracks that were around before or in summer - sure, he might still be playing the odd one or two come November but he's not going to be playing the whole block of 'em[/QUOTE]

Dude. Yesterday you were trying to peddle that, Sasha, Seaman and Oakenfold fake as Sasha.

#1795626Post 22 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

[QUOTE=♫♫♫♫♫♫;1225232]Dude. Yesterday you were trying to peddle that, Sasha, Seaman and Oakenfold fake as Sasha.[/QUOTE]

Peddle? No no, was simply reposting something - quite happy to be told that's a fake, just lured in by the mans account with all those Pete Tong essential selections on - presumed he was something to do with Radio 1, that's all.

This, however, is different - first mix, which you say is fake, mixes into the second - thus it's not fake, thus it must be Sasha and those tunes are all from the end of 1996 which means we have a 3 hour live club mix- it must be from somewhere - maybe it's not from Better Days but i can absolutely guarantee that that other mix is not from November.

It's unlikely that someone has purposefully mislabelled a set but somehow mangaged to end up with the tracks on it correlating to the date - yea, people are dicks and change names of sets, but it's more likely that it's the first one, not this one, that's been changed

#1795627Post 23 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

Really? How can you guarantee it? We will be going into black helicopter territory next.

#1795628Post 24 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

And then Sasha drops all of his big tracks, only to start playing them again a few weeks later, on JJJ

#1795631Post 25 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

[QUOTE=♫♫♫♫♫♫;1225234]Really? How can you guarantee it? We will be going into black helicopter territory next.[/QUOTE]

Because the tunes my friend... the tunes.

#1795633Post 26 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

But yet he has dropped Slacker and Swell and picked them up again a few weeks later. I asked for a guarantee, not an opinion.

#1795634Post 27 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

[QUOTE=♫♫♫♫♫♫;1225240]But yet he has dropped Slacker and Swell and picked them up again a few weeks later. I asked for a guarantee, not an opinion.[/QUOTE]

he didn't 'drop' anything - just didn't play them, you can only get through so many tunes in a 3 hour session innit'. there's not one tune in that other mix that came out any later than August...what makes you so sure it's from November? it's not going to be the case that he plays a 3 hour set at the end of Nov. and does'nt play anything from the previous 3 months - - have you ever seen him do that? Even in his '95 BT & Blue Amazon days when that's all he seemed to play, you'd still have the odd track here and there that would be new.

Either way, happy to hear this set - brings back good memories

#1795635Post 28 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

Yes, but, Scared was one of his pivitol tracks from that era, but he seemed to have forgot to drop it that night. Seems to me, that you want to believe that it is Sasha from that night.

#1795637Post 29 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

[QUOTE=♫♫♫♫♫♫;1225242]Yes, but, Scared was one of his pivitol tracks from that era, but he seemed to have forgot to drop it that night. Seems to me, that you want to believe that it is Sasha from that night.[/QUOTE]

I'm somewhat confused - so you don't even think it's Sasha at all now?

Also, pivitol why? Becuase he played it a few times? I feel that's just your perception as there aren't all that many mixes from 1996 out there to check, but what we do know is that that Liquid Groove mix was a week after the essential mix and he didn't play it on there..

#1795652Post 30 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

Sorry, I got my dates mixed up, I was thinking about this, I think that you are right. If they didn't join together, I would have to ask myself where part 2 fitted in on a timeline.:roll: Apologies, I was very drunk last night. Serves me right for not listening to it properly.

#1795738Post 31 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

  1. [000] ID
  2. [002] ID
  3. [007] Garbage - Milk (Rabbit In The Moon Remix)
  4. [015] ID
  5. [020] Robert Miles - One and One (Morales Journey Mix)
  6. [029] ID
  7. [034] Cruzeman - Aum-Sessions
  8. [042] ID
  9. [046] ID
  10. [056] Amorph - Elaminoid
  11. [062] Mikerobenics - Julika (Pascal FEOS Remix)
  12. [069] ID
  13. [076] ID
  14. [083] ID
  15. [089] Liquid Art - Xplorer
  16. [095] DeNiro - Elan Vital
  17. [100] Blue Alphabet - Timetable (Shades Of Tears EP)
  18. [107] Front 242 - Happiness (Underworld Mix)
  19. [113] MikeroBenics - Julika (Comes To Late Mix)
  20. [121] Dawntreader - Dominion (Red Room Mix)
  21. [125] Liquid Art - Liquid Art (Remix)
  22. [131] Fireball - Breathless
  23. [141] Arkarna - House On Fire (Andy Ling Aryan Vocal Mix)
  24. [152] Paganini Traxx - Zoe (Original Mix)
  25. [161] Little Jam - Black Hill
  26. [165] Jayn Hanna - Lost Without You (Evolution's 'Lost In Sound' Dub)
  27. [171] Jayn Hanna - Lost Without You (Edge Factor Journey)
  28. [179] Chicane - Offshore (Disco Citizens Remix)
#1795745Post 32 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

Wait..did Sasha play in 1196 year?!..That's God-like behavior lol

#1795764Post 33 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

The files from the Toronto site were 320kbps, so I joined them, closed the gaps and boosted the volume a little bit in some places.

[URL="https://hearthis.at/4597782/"]1996-11-28 - Sasha @ Good Life Better Days Toronto | EBWTBTDJ Download[/URL]

#1795766Post 34 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

[QUOTE=♫♫♫♫♫♫;1225386]The files from the Toronto site were 320kbps, so I joined them, closed the gaps and boosted the volume a little bit in some places.

[URL="https://hearthis.at/4597782/"]1996-11-28 - Sasha @ Good Life Better Days Toronto | EBWTBTDJ Download[/URL][/QUOTE]

you beaut. I really love this set so even better having it in the one file.. ta

#1795767Post 35 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

Thanks Chunky, nice work as always!!

Is there anything more in the pipeline from the Howells archives to be released? Would be awesome :D

#1795770Post 36 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

[QUOTE=klangfabrik;1225389]Thanks Chunky, nice work as always!!

Is there anything more in the pipeline from the Howells archives to be released? Would be awesome :D[/QUOTE]

Probably could be. I haven't spoken to Danny in a while. It's always hard to decide what to put out there. Probably not helped by people being negative sometimes.

#1795774Post 37 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

he posted on instagram last week that he was gonna setup a stream and play a bunch of those mixes. i dunno if it happened or not.

also lol the flyer for this has that picture of a young jimi hendrix

#1795779Post 38 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

[QUOTE=♫♫♫♫♫♫;1225392]Probably could be. I haven't spoken to Danny in a while. It's always hard to decide what to put out there. Probably not helped by people being negative sometimes.[/QUOTE]

Would be awesome...could you post the screenshot with all danny sets once again please?

maybe danny could set up a vote :lol:

#1795789Post 39 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

  1. [000] ID
  2. [002] ID
  3. [007] Garbage - Milk (Rabbit In The Moon Remix)
  4. [015] ID
  5. [020] Robert Miles - One and One (Morales Journey Mix)
  6. [029] Van Basten - Instinct
  7. [042] ID
  8. [046] Van Basten ‎– Speed Of Sound
  9. [056] Amorph - Elaminoid
  10. [062] Mikerobenics - Julika (Pascal FEOS Remix)
  11. [069] ID
  12. [076] ID
  13. [083] ID
  14. [089] Liquid Art - Xplorer
  15. [095] DeNiro - Elan Vital
  16. [100] Blue Alphabet - Timetable (Shades Of Tears EP)
  17. [107] Front 242 - Happiness (Underworld Mix)
  18. [113] MikeroBenics - Julika (Comes Too Late Mix)
  19. [121] Dawntreader - Dominion (Red Room Mix)
  20. [125] Liquid Art - Liquid Art (Remix)
  21. [131] Fireball - Breathless
  22. [141] Arkarna - House On Fire (Andy Ling Aryan Vocal Mix)
  23. [152] Paganini Traxx - Zoe (Original Mix)
  24. [161] Little Jam - Black Hill
  25. [165] Jayn Hanna - Lost Without You (Evolution's 'Lost In Sound' Dub)
  26. [171] Jayn Hanna - Lost Without You (Edge Factor Journey)
  27. [179] Chicane - Offshore (Disco Citizens Remix)
#1795790Post 40 of 48

Re: Sasha @ Better Days, Toronto 28/11/1196

029 is actually:

Van Basten - Instinct (not Adrenaline heights..)

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