Re: Lee Burridge - Robot Heart - Burning Man 2018

Happy Birthday, Chunks. Answer your messages.

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[QUOTE=udolph;1215773][FONT=verdana]the same goes for Netflix, Spotify, Google Play if you pay a subscription, you get unlimited access whenever you want. There will be people ripping it and uploading it for sure (like everything else), others will prefer the instantaneity of the original service.[/FONT]

[FONT=verdana]We should understand that artists should gain some benefit of all this, it can't be 100% free (at least that the artist wants it like that). The feedback unified in one place is a good way to get exposure, comments, following, etc. Also a democratic way to really know (in the future) the real impact of an artist in the audience.[/FONT] [FONT=verdana] [/FONT] [FONT=verdana]If you pay a subscription for unlimited streaming and the artist starts getting money, for sure the system will get improved and they will produce even better content and you could download everything.[/FONT] [FONT=verdana] [/FONT] [FONT=verdana]This goes in detriment of record labels perhaps, because there will be people, quit buying digital releases in places like Beatport to buy Hifi mixed sessions, that's the free market competition, although, who wants a full track, wants a full track, is not the same than ripping it from mixed files. The common people (talking broadly) doesn't buy EP's, although they might buy sessions or albums, and DJ's probably wouldn't buy sessions and would keep buying music in record stores as usual.[/FONT]

[FONT=verdana]I agree. Although, first hour was nice to me.[/FONT][/QUOTE] You are preaching to the converted here. I am quite possibly the person on this forum who is most concerned about artists rights. You seem to be misreading some of my comments . Do you have any idea how little artists are paid by companies such as Spotify ?? And Souncloud seem to be getting everything for free. ?? I have a very simple system. I buy the tracks and Albums I love, we still have some artists who freely give us great music, certainly more that we will ever have time to listen to it all. I have always got my music by following the people who make the music I love. With Dj sets they introduce me to other artists that I can grow to love. . I play it when and how I feel at any given time. Who needs streaming . ?? :)

I would be quite happy to pay for great sets that were recorded well. Hernan's Cordoba is a great example.!! Actually I would give my firstborn for that :lol: Or any of the sets of his I have seen at Stereo :lol:

Btw if you are interested in finding out more about artists rights :) [url="https://thetrichordist.com"]The Trichordist | Artists For An Ethical and Sustainable Internet #StopArtistExploitation[/url]

And how much they get paid for streaming. [url="https://thetrichordist.com/2014/11/12/the-streaming-price-bible-spotify-youtube-and-what-1-million-plays-means-to-you/"]The Streaming Price Bible Spotify, YouTube and What 1 Million Plays Means to You! | The Trichordist[/url]

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[QUOTE=DIDI;1215797]Do you have any idea how little artists are paid by companies such as Spotify ??[/QUOTE]

yup and heres some figures to back it up, btw i pulled the album down after a month

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It's so pathetic isn't it. :(

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I have listened to this set 3x in its entirety and I really enjoy it. this set is much better than his 5 hour 'Requiem For A Daydream' mix. the only thing this mix is missing really are the really trippy tracks, whereas this is an emotional journey.

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100% agree with you, for me this one is way better than the Requiem for a Daydream mix

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Yep. Only missing that November track for me.

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[QUOTE=ddr;1215840]I have listened to this set 3x in its entirety and I really enjoy it. this set is much better than his 5 hour 'Requiem For A Daydream' mix. the only thing this mix is missing really are the really trippy tracks, whereas this is an emotional journey.[/QUOTE]

Totally understand you.. If Requiem for a daydream didn't exists this one would be fav from him this year.. But even this one from Burning Man being wonderful, i kinda was expecting something like this.

Requiem for a Daydream has a totally unexpected vibe, the lenght and tempo that i enjoy the most and most important, 5 hours of great music, not even one track that i didnt like.. thats very rare to find ..

All in all, Lee is top 3 artist of 2018 imo.. amazing year.

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[QUOTE=AchtungBaby!;1215863]Totally understand you.. If Requiem for a daydream didn't exists this one would be fav from him this year.. But even this one from Burning Man being wonderful, i kinda was expecting something like this.

Requiem for a Daydream has a totally unexpected vibe, the lenght and tempo that i enjoy the most and most important, 5 hours of great music, not even one track that i didnt like.. thats very rare to find ..

All in all, Lee is top 3 artist of 2018 imo.. amazing year.[/QUOTE]

Yes, for me he has delivered every time this year.

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NICE tnx

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[QUOTE=thebanned1;1215791]the resolution of the ears isn't as great as the resolution of the eyes, the eye is more accurate, today, there is not much difference between analogue synths and software synths, you'll be hard pushed to tell the difference.[/QUOTE]

well, we are on the shore of a neverending discussion here, I won't enter I will just say, I don't know you, but I can tell the difference between analog and digital synths with only one ear, any day and I'm sure the majority can as well, standalone or in a mix.

I might refute each single paragraph of what you said mate, but just doesn't matter, I imagine at least 3 different ways of how the idea might work. Spotify pays so little, doesn't mean others couldnt do it different. Whether the user pays $5 or the developer implements advertising. The people is used to get mixes for free, and for that same reason we are complaining about low quality in most of the cases.

[QUOTE=DIDI;1215797] ...I would be quite happy to pay for great sets that were recorded well. Hernan's Cordoba is a great example.!!...

...And how much they get paid for streaming. [URL="https://thetrichordist.com/2014/11/12/the-streaming-price-bible-spotify-youtube-and-what-1-million-plays-means-to-you/"]The Streaming Price Bible Spotify, YouTube and What 1 Million Plays Means to You! | The Trichordist[/URL][/QUOTE]

Exactly of that I was talking about... paid content, better quality... totally possible.

Doesn't matter how much Spotify pays, we are talking about a hypotetical new platform here. I just feel it might be done. Soundcloud could use google ads or advertising to offer streaming in 320.

I also love to collect the files in my hard drive, but again, the artists prefer plays, likes, comments, etc. The evolution of technology tells each day more, everything is going to be in the cloud, so the streaming is becoming the common rule as well as the cellphones removed the memory cards and extended the online storage plans.

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[QUOTE=udolph;1215890]

Doesn't matter how much Spotify pays, we are talking about a hypotetical new platform here. I just feel it might be done. Soundcloud could use google ads or advertising to offer streaming in 320.

I also love to collect the files in my hard drive, but again, the artists prefer plays, likes, comments, etc. The evolution of technology tells each day more, everything is going to be in the cloud, so the streaming is becoming the common rule as well as the cellphones removed the memory cards and extended the online storage plans.[/QUOTE]

It totally matters how much Spotify or other streamimg services pay ! How are we going to get them to pay a reasonable amount. ???Soundcloud already have ads . Very annoying audible adds.

I think the artists would prefer money. On Soundcloud you have to like and follow an artist before you can download. So many likes would be fake . I really hope not everything is going to be the cloud. My Free iCloud 5gb is still intact. Haven't got anything in there. :)

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[QUOTE=udolph;1215890]well, we are on the shore of a neverending discussion here, I won't enter I will just say, I don't know you, but I can tell the difference between analog and digital synths with only one ear, any day and I'm sure the majority can as well, standalone or in a mix. [/QUOTE]

I don't know you either but if you think you can tell the difference in a saw wave after it's been through envelopes and filters etc between an analogue synth and a good software synth today then I guess you must be a man in the know, the only real difference these days is low end and that's nothing a bit of processing can't sort out if you know what you're doing, so in a way you're right, analogue might sound a little warmer but give it 4 - 5 years, imo it's already there. in fact software is already doing what hardware can't

[quote]I might refute each single paragraph of what you said mate, but just doesn't matter, I imagine at least 3 different ways of how the idea might work. Spotify pays so little, doesn't mean others couldnt do it different. Whether the user pays $5 or the developer implements advertising. The people is used to get mixes for free, and for that same reason we are complaining about low quality in most of the cases.[/quote]

so go on then explain yourself ?

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genuinely though...how can you say it doesn't matter about how much artists get paid and then justify the use of analogue synths ? you obviously know how much those cost right ?

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can i bring up another point, that may go one way or another ? do you think if artists and djs were getting paid enough they wouldn't want to shower you in glorious wav and 320 mp3, it's the fact that they're getting paid so little that you're all sitting here ripping low quality facebook videos because most can't afford to properly advertise themselves, they're all using analogue synths as you rightly point out but the cost of those far outweigh what artists are getting paid for their work

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[FONT=verdana][QUOTE=thebanned1;1215907]genuinely though...how can you say it doesn't matter about how much artists get paid and then justify the use of analogue synths ? you obviously know how much those cost right ?[/QUOTE]

Maybe my english isn't good enough. Of course it's important how much the artists get paid, but Spotify it's not the reference and it shouldn't be, so doesn't matter what they do. You can sell your music thru Bandcamp for example. We are talking about a niche here, so I see it as a different case.

I repeat myself. With a fee of $5 and/or advertising, I see possible to have a place like soundcloud where you download mixes. Good deal for the artists, the developer and the labels in concept of rights. It's just an idea where all of them could be receiving something where today receives nothing and we also might get HQ where today we don't.

And talking about analog synths, comparing just a sawtooth the difference is small (still warmer and fatter), but add analog envelopes and filter modulation and you are not there and I don't see it there in the short future either. Just MHO.

The good thing is, we can choose both.

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^^^Of course Spotify should be the reference, it's the biggest thing out there. Bandcamp is minuscule in comparison.

All the things you are talking are probably there all ready. But the largest percentage of people out there are are quite happy to just use streaming and they really don't give a shit about where their music comes from. They don't care that artists, songwriters are being ripped off. :(

This is depressing :(

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I am on my 2nd listen now and it sounds even better this go round, love the vibe of this year's Robot Heart mix from Lee

also WTF is this ID, ugh!

7. [046] Sébastien Léger - ID

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[QUOTE=Weizy;1215940]I am on my 2nd listen now and it sounds even better this go round, love the vibe of this year's Robot Heart mix from Lee

also WTF is this ID, ugh!

7. [046] Sébastien Léger - ID[/QUOTE]

Released in April/May if I recall correctly.

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have to say, this was better second time round

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^ it grows on you

i'm on my second listen and definitely enjoying it more

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[QUOTE=Dhar_2;1215955]^ it grows on you

i'm on my second listen and definitely enjoying it more[/QUOTE]

i'm, used to "getting" Lee straight from the word go though, still a strange set imo

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[QUOTE=♫♫♫♫♫♫;1215944]Released in April/May if I recall correctly.[/QUOTE]

hmmm not seeing anything via Beatport.

Anyone got a track name?

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[QUOTE=Weizy;1215974]hmmm not seeing anything via Beatport.

Anyone got a track name?[/QUOTE]

The track was I'd by Burridge on the Facebook message stream. I don't think that it has a title yet.

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[QUOTE=♫♫♫♫♫♫;1215975]The track was I'd by Burridge on the Facebook message stream. I don't think that it has a title yet.[/QUOTE]

Thanks. I read the comments and you are correct. No track name yet and releasing in February 2019.

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Hernan has been using that pearl for a long while now ... Very nice sounds indeed.

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Listened to the middle part of this on my sunrise half marathon. It worked perfectly. Maybe that's why Banned1 didn't get it. Lee's usual sets are at sunset. This one starts at night and ends after sunrise. I think it gets better every time you listen to it. Most people listen to a set once, go meh, then move on to the next. I'm looking forward to seeing him at Fabric in a few weeks.

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easily the best set i've heard from lee in some time.

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[QUOTE=Weizy;1215940]I am on my 2nd listen now and it sounds even better this go round, love the vibe of this year's Robot Heart mix from Lee

also WTF is this ID, ugh!

7. [046] Sébastien Léger - ID[/QUOTE]

Sébastien Léger - Lanarka

Feb on Lost & Found .. LF058

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[QUOTE=AchtungBaby!;1216414]Sébastien Léger - Lanarka

Feb on Lost & Found .. LF058[/QUOTE]

Thanks Achtung!

Nice pickup that for Guy J's label.

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I've heard it so much I'm actually getting tired of it. It is sort of a beautiful nothing :)

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I'm looking forward to the ADID night time edition at Fabric in London next Sunday, Oona Dahl is also playing. It should be interesting.

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^ wish i could make it!

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[QUOTE=Dhar_2;1216451]^ wish i could make it![/QUOTE]

That would have been great.