[video=youtube;KN0cGi1XOIM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN0cGi1XOIM&feature=channel_video_title[/video]

I hate to say I was right again... the best is the doctor stuttering and fumbling over her words.

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The gov't paid billions for a bridge to nowhere too.

Jenny McCarthy has even laid off her rhetoric that this link exists, now that the Dr. who wrote the original paper has had his license revoked and his paper retracted. You aren't letting Jenny McCarthy know more about this issue than you are you? It would be bad for your [ms] image.

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I never mentioned Jenny McCarthy you did. I just mentioned fact.. The fact that the government is paying people off to be quiteabout this epidemic they call autism and that there is a direct link to vaccines.

Don't you get sick of carrying the government's water Reso? Are you on payroll or something? I like how you tried to do a "guilt by association" with me though by trying to associate me with Jenny McCarthy and Dr. Wakefield. You are getting better at propaganda.

The announcement comes at noon

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Like I mentioned before, the gov't spent billions of dollars on a bridge to nowhere. Doesn't discount the science. But you of course ignore that.

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What? So because they spent money on a bridge they are paying off autism families? That is your explanation?

Wow your common sense is reaching new heights.

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you miss my point, for the nine thousandth time. plz reread the 2nd sentence and get back to me.

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[URL]http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/showthread.php?101330-Vaccine-and-Autism-Link&p=954830#post954830[/URL]

Also, I thought everything on Fox News was automatically propaganda for the man? Funny.

[quote] Earlier today, [URL="http://video.foxnews.com/v/4685191/probe-to-reveal-link-between-vaccine-settlements-and-autism"]Fox News took the bait[/URL] about the new autism/vaccines “study” and ran a piece titled “Probe to reveal link between vaccine settlements and autism.” Anchor Alisyn Camerota introduced the segment by advertising a “Fox News exclusive.” (I’ve been getting press releases about tomorrow’s press conference since last week.) “We have breaking news over the debate over autism and vaccines,” she said. “A group of families…are set to announce the results of a major investigation.” She then called on Trace Gallgher, who, after referring to Andrew Wakefield as a “prominent scientist,” said the report…[INDENT][I]…will present^ evidence that the federal government, through this Vaccine Court, has given dozens and dozens of children multi-million dollar rewards, and these kids are autistic — the question being if there’s no cause and effect, why the muti-million dollar rewards? … This same group says they will come out and present evidence that is indisputable that there is a link between autism and vaccines.[/I] [/INDENT]Missing from their dispatch was any context about the substance of this new “study” — how the Vaccine Court works, what this data might mean, etc. — which, [URL="http://blogs.plos.org/thepanicvirus/2011/05/09/the-latest-claims-of-proof-that-vaccines-cause-autism-will-the-media-take-the-bait/"]as I tried to point out[/URL], only requires a basic understanding of epidemiology.

Also missing was any background about the study’s four authors — none of whom are research scientists (or epidemiologists).` They are Mary Holland, a lawyer who wrote the chapter defending Andrew Wakefield in the recent book [I]Vaccine Epidemic[/I]; Louis Conte, the father of two boys he believes are vaccine injured and the former director of something called the “Vaccine Injury Compensation Program Justice Project”; Robert Krakow, who is an attorney who represents clients who have filed Vaccine Court claims and who has filed his own claim on behalf of his son; and Lisa Colin, one of Krakow’s colleagues.

This doesn’t mean any of them are bad researchers. It is, however, important context. I first met Krakow at a seminar he helped lead in which the American government’s vaccine policies were compared to Nazi eugenics. Conte [URL="http://www.ageofautism.com/2008/09/post.html"]has for years been writing about[/URL] how the CDC’s “annual propaganda session” about vaccines is designed “to insure that Americans continue to poison themselves.” And Holland’s publisher asked me to participate in a live debate with Andrew Wakefield at an event promoting the book’s launch. (I declined.)[/quote]

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this has nothing to do with Fox. I just caught the clip. I could have linked to the 100 news links about this story if you makes you feel better. These families were coming out whether Fox covered it or not.

Fox just covered it because they are so lame that they will do anything to make Obama look bad. Remember this is now on Obama's watch.

[URL="http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/investigators-find-clear-vaccine-autism-link-based-on-government-data-121595003.html"]http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/investigators-find-clear-vaccine-autism-link-based-on-government-data-121595003.html[/URL]

[URL="http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/fighting-autism-and-winning/2011/05/investigators-and-families-of-vaccine-injured-children-to-unveil-report-detailing-clear-vaccine-autism-link.html"]http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/fighting-autism-and-winning/2011/05/investigators-and-families-of-vaccine-injured-children-to-unveil-report-detailing-clear-vaccine-autism-link.html[/URL]

[I] For over 20 years, the federal government has publicly denied a vaccine-autism link, while at the same time its Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP) has been awarding damages for vaccine injury to children with brain damage, seizures and autism. This investigation, based on public, verifiable government data, breaks new ground in the controversial vaccine-autism debate.[/I]

Here even from a government site. [URL="http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/"]http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/[/URL]

Anything else I can help you with? Would you like me to read it for you? The US Gov't even threatened to pull the funding for the children if they exposed their secret. So are you a government sympathizer? Do you hate autistic children and wish they didn't have any funding for telling the truth?

Autister

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sigh * 500.

Point which was ignored, of course:

[quote] Also missing was any background about the study’s four authors —[COLOR=magenta] none of whom are research scientists (or epidemiologists)[/COLOR].` They are Mary Holland,[COLOR=magenta] a lawyer [/COLOR]who wrote the chapter defending Andrew Wakefield in the recent book [I]Vaccine Epidemic[/I]; Louis Conte, the[COLOR=magenta] father of two boys[/COLOR] he believes are vaccine injured and the former director of something called the “Vaccine Injury Compensation Program Justice Project”; Robert Krakow, who is an [COLOR=magenta]attorney [/COLOR]who represents clients who have filed Vaccine Court claims and who has filed his own claim on behalf of his son; and Lisa Colin, one of[COLOR=magenta] Krakow’s colleagues[/COLOR].[/quote]But this could have been put out by a group of grocery store bagboys, and it wouldn't make a diff would it? As long as it reinforces (the totally 100% discredited and repeatedly unproven link that you want to believe, just because it is rebellious) between autism and vaccines. Which for the millionth time have had Mercury removed years ago. Honestly...really believing this type of thing, just because it goes against the grain (of the man, the gov't, big pharma, et al) is what gets real people, real diseases, real sick, with real consequences.

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Ya I guess you are right the government just hands out money.. Millions and millions of dollars on zero scientific evidence. Ya that's right just go ask the government for money and they will just give it to you.

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[QUOTE=runningman;955081]Ya I guess you are right the government just hands out money.. Millions and millions of dollars on zero scientific evidence. Ya that's right just go ask the government for money and they will just give it to you.[/QUOTE]

Yup.

oops link from above was wrong. it is this:

[url]http://blogs.plos.org/thepanicvirus/2011/05/10/and-the-winner-is-fox-news/[/url]

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also related post from the same author that this whole thing isnt black and white, like most (wait all) things in this forum are reduced down to so that they can ignore the finer points of the issue:

[url]http://blogs.plos.org/thepanicvirus/2011/05/09/the-latest-claims-of-proof-that-vaccines-cause-autism-will-the-media-take-the-bait/[/url]

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Also:

I thought everything the gov't did was a conspiracy/cover up/lie on behalf of the rich/way to supress the poor. WTF makes this an exception? They are incompent in everything they do according to you. :roflmao:

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Except this.

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And keeping of hundreds of people colluding together on conspiracies for years and years.

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Guess what Reso? If your kid was fucked up with autism you would become an expert yourself. You would search high and low for a cure or cause. Yes regular people. Where did you think this science was going to come from the Pharma schools or pharma funded studies,,,, :)

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You really should just ask parents that have had an autistic kid and see when they saw the change. I have

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[QUOTE=runningman;955087]Guess what Reso? If your kid was fucked up with autism you would become an expert yourself. You would search high and low for a cure or cause. Yes regular people. Where did you think this science was going to come from the Pharma schools or pharma funded studies,,,, :)[/QUOTE]

Nah I wouldn't. I'd trust the thousands of doctors who went to school and spent their life learning the science and medical reasoning behind it tell me it is bullshit.

I work around dozens of PhD's everyday for big pharma, these people are not all paid by the fucking man, to make up some shit so they can make a buck and fuck everyone over. They are looking to discover new proteins and molecules and move them thru the pipeline in the hopes the discovery will lead to curing some ailment. If you think everyone from top to bottom is in it for the money, well you are just plain 100% wrong for a fact.

Also regular people thinking they know more than people who understand what the fuck they are looking at is what causes diseases which were pretty much non-existant to come back and start actually making people sick again.

Thanks to the internet, everyone is a fucking expert on everything now.

Also correlation does not equal causation.

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I guess Autism will just always be a mystery eh Reso? Just like Bin Laden, just like 9/11.. You love living in the fog.

Do you know that I had to tell my doctor just last month I didn't want my son to get the Pneumo Conjugate vaccine because many deaths were reported in Japan with the same vaccine he was going to give my son? He called me a liar and then he left the room after a 20 min conversation to check the internet where he then came in and told me I was right..

So there you go.

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[QUOTE=runningman;955093]I guess Autism will just always be a mystery eh Reso? Just like Bin Laden, just like 9/11.. You love living in the fog.[/QUOTE]

Bin Laden ain't no mystery. The dude got shot in the dome. Story over.

[quote] Do you know that I had to tell my doctor just last month I didn't want my son to get the Pneumo Conjugate vaccine because many deaths were reported in Japan with the same vaccine he was going to give my son? He called me a liar and then he left the room after a 20 min conversation to check the internet where he then came in and told me I was right..

So there you go.[/quote]If your doctor goes to the internets to check out his diagnosis and then reverses his opinion, then you are doing some shit wrong in your choics of "docs".

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You love being wrong and clueless

That's it goodnight for me!!

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[QUOTE=runningman;955097]You love being wrong and clueless

That's it goodnight for me!![/QUOTE]

Runningman: -2 Reso: 0

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is that negative 2 to negative zero, or what? :roflmao:

Here is a cool simulator showing what herd immunity is and how it works. [url="http://op12no2.me/toys/herd/index.php?scenario=intro"]stochastic monte-carlo epidemic sir model to reveal herd immunity[/url]

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Hey man, get off this herd mentality shit, I have Jenna McCarthy telling me there's a link between the two.

I can at least beat off to a hot chick talking biology and genetic alteration that's all wrong than I can with some Big Bang Theory reject with a PhD and field experience be right.

I like boobs.