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Obama Birth Certificate Committee (now another 9/11 thread)

165 durable postsStarted 2011-03-30Latest 2011-04-16
#1485450Post 121 of 165

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[QUOTE=vinnie97;944525]The FACTS are all that has been released is a questionably nonauthentic COLB plus oppositional circumstantial evidence from not only his family but also the Kenyan parliament. Here, follow the evidence of the evolving COLB: [url]http://www.theobamafile.com/_eligibility/EvolvingBirthDocument.htm[/url]

Keep dreamin', dudes. If there was nothing to this, why would Trump be risking charges of slander for the hell of it? The Obama ship is sinking, some of you are just too wrapped up in the aura of false hope and change to see it.

Trump clarifies it for the cloudy of mind: [URL]http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/08/opinion/lweb08trump.html?_r=2[/URL][/QUOTE]

Good NY times letter Donald, proving you are indeed a total idiot.

Also The Don doesn't give a shit about slander. Srsly? When has the White House gone after an individual for slander? Never? And I think he could afford the cost of the lawyers if he had to deal with it if it ever actually happened anyway.

Thanks Internet for random facts to become reality, and now The Donald to to become TV news, thanks to exploiting the most gullible of American citizens.

#1485827Post 122 of 165

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Maybe the original birth certificate took down building 7? Make a new thread about it! It's as good a thought as any of the other new threads in the politics section.

#1485828Post 123 of 165

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[QUOTE=Jenks;945017]Maybe the original birth certificate took down building 7? Make a new thread about it! It's as good a thought as any of the other new threads in the politics section.[/QUOTE]

Hummm. This seems plausible.

#1485829Post 124 of 165

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More plausible than fire anyway

#1485836Post 125 of 165

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[QUOTE=chunky;945019]More plausible than fire anyway[/QUOTE]

:lol::lol::lol:

#1485849Post 126 of 165

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Not claiming to be an engineer like Chunky and the following was not conducted by NASA, but it reads reasonably imo. :lol:

Later dudes.

[URL]http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/jom/0112/eagar/eagar-0112.html[/URL]

[IMG]http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.png[/IMG] [quote]

The World Trade Center was not defectively designed. No designer of the WTC anticipated, nor should have anticipated, a 90,000 L Molotov cocktail on one of the building floors.[/quote][quote]No normal office fires would fill 4,000 square meters of floor space in the seconds in which the WTC fire developed. Usually, the fire would take up to an hour to spread so uniformly across the width and breadth of the building.[/quote][quote]A basic engineering assessment of the design of the World Trade Center dispels many of the myths about its collapse. First, the perimeter tube design of the towers protected them from failing upon impact. The outer columns were engineered to stiffen the towers in heavy wind, and they protected the inner core, which held the gravity load. Removal of some of the outer columns alone could not bring the building down. Furthermore, because of the stiffness of the perimeter design, it was impossible for the aircraft impact to topple the building.

However, the building was not able to withstand the intense heat of the jet fuel fire. While it was impossible for the fuel-rich, diffuse-flame fire to burn at a temperature high enough to melt the steel, its quick ignition and intense heat caused the steel to lose at least half its strength and to deform, causing buckling or crippling. This weakening and deformation caused a few floors to fall, while the weight of the stories above them crushed the floors below, initiating a domino collapse.[/quote]

#1485890Post 127 of 165

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[QUOTE=Jenks;945017]Maybe the original birth certificate took down building 7? Make a new thread about it! It's as good a thought as any of the other new threads in the politics section.[/QUOTE]

It was probably folded into a paper plane and flown by underwear gnomes with extremist Hanes for Him leanings.

#1485891Post 128 of 165

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You know, if Donald Trump was actually serious about this whole Birther belief and wasn't just prostituting what little integrity he has to get ratings for Celebrity Apprentice, he could save himself a fuck of a lot of money by simply hiring a genealogist.

But then again, his "I've got private investigators looking into this..." kind of bullshit would explain his mentality and how he managed to bankrupt his own casinos, and a genealogist doesn't have the sexiness that hiring P.I.'s do when trying to get a headline. His ratings have been on an upswing every time he says crazy shit.

#1485944Post 129 of 165

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;945043]Not claiming to be an engineer like Chunky and the following was not conducted by NASA, but it reads reasonably imo. :lol:

However, the building was not able to withstand the intense heat of the jet fuel fire. While it was impossible for the fuel-rich, diffuse-flame fire to burn at a temperature high enough to melt the steel, its quick ignition and intense heat caused the steel to lose at least half its strength and to deform, causing buckling or crippling. This weakening and deformation caused a few floors to fall, while the weight of the stories above them crushed the floors below, initiating a domino collapse. [/QUOTE]

But no plane hit WTTC 7 so there would be no fuel to quickly ignite & cause the steel to lose at least half its strength.

#1485951Post 130 of 165

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;945043]Not claiming to be an engineer like Chunky and the following was not conducted by NASA, but it reads reasonably imo. :lol:

Later dudes.

[URL]http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/jom/0112/eagar/eagar-0112.html[/URL]

[IMG]http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]However, the building was not able to withstand the intense heat of the jet fuel fire. While it was impossible for the fuel-rich, diffuse-flame fire to burn at a temperature high enough to melt the steel, its quick ignition and intense heat caused the steel to lose at least half its strength and to deform, causing buckling or crippling. This weakening and deformation caused a few floors to fall, while the weight of the stories above them crushed the floors below, initiating a domino collapse.[/QUOTE]

Again...no mention of speed of collapse...or the cut columns or where the fuck these melted mangled columns disapeard to afterwards. Once again...SSDD. No new info...no new explanation...have fun.

#1485985Post 131 of 165

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A interesting read on the birth issue...

[QUOTE] [INDENT]A former official with the Hawaii Department of Health says the computer image of a "Certification of Live Birth" displayed by the Obama campaign in 2008 to demonstrate the candidate's constitutional eligibility as a "natural born citizen" to occupy the Oval Office is the only document the state releases.

But testimony and documents from others who have received them from the state simply by requesting them raises questions about the comments of Chiyome Fukino, former head of the state agency in charge of birth records, including those that may reveal details of Barack Obama's 1961 birth. [/INDENT][/QUOTE]

[LEFT][URL]http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=285921[/URL][/LEFT]

#1486028Post 132 of 165

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[QUOTE=chunky;945147]But no plane hit WTTC 7 so there would be no fuel to quickly ignite & cause the steel to lose at least half its strength.[/QUOTE]

I don't think building 7 is what makes or breaks the case for us having had a legitimate terrorist attack, sorry.

#1486034Post 133 of 165

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[QUOTE=Shpira;945154]Again...no mention of speed of collapse...or the cut columns or where the fuck these melted mangled columns disapeard to afterwards. Once again...SSDD. No new info...no new explanation...have fun.[/QUOTE]

lolwut. did you even read more than the first few sentences? All of the fire temp data is there.

lolwut no collapse talk?

[quote] [COLOR=magenta]This started the domino effect that caused the buildings to collapse within ten seconds, hitting bottom with an estimated speed of 200 km per hour. If it had been free fall, with no restraint, the collapse would have only taken eight seconds and would have impacted at 300 km/h[/COLOR].[SIZE=-1][URL="http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/0112/Eagar/Eagar-0112.html#ref1"]1[/URL][/SIZE] It has been suggested that it was fortunate that the WTC did not tip over onto other buildings surrounding the area. There are several points that should be made.[COLOR=magenta] First, the building is not solid; it is 95 percent air and, hence, can implode onto itself.[/COLOR] Second, there is no lateral load, even the impact of a speeding aircraft, which is sufficient to move the center of gravity one hundred feet to the side such that it is not within the base footprint of the structure. Third, given the near free-fall collapse, there was insufficient time for portions to attain significant lateral velocity. [COLOR=magenta]To summarize all of these points, a 500,000 t structure has too much inertia to fall in any direction other than nearly straight down.[/COLOR] [/quote]

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ArKxY.gif[/IMG]

#1486035Post 134 of 165

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but then again this has degenerated into another stupid talk about building collapse. i have failed. :deadhorse:

#1486038Post 135 of 165

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:lol: Nice thread title.

#1486041Post 136 of 165

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;945242]I don't think building 7 is what makes or breaks the case for us having had a legitimate terrorist attack, sorry.[/QUOTE]

No but your explanation doesn't explain why a perfectly good building supposedly fell down as a result of fire. And of course there is this

[IMG]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p253/71chunky/odds/100405WTC.jpg[/IMG]

#1486042Post 137 of 165

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[QUOTE][COLOR=magenta]This started the domino effect that caused the buildings to collapse within ten seconds, hitting bottom with an estimated speed of 200 km per hour. If it had been free fall, with no restraint, the collapse would have only taken eight seconds and would have impacted at 300 km/h[/COLOR].[/QUOTE]

Funny thing is building 7 came down in nearly the exact same time as the worlds largest controlled demolition on a building. I seem to remember pointing this out a few weeks back.

#1486044Post 138 of 165

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[QUOTE=chunky;945261]No but your explanation doesn't explain why a perfectly good building supposedly fell down as a result of fire. And of course there is this[/QUOTE]

Excellent post.

"And by the way, you know, when you're telling these little stories? Here's a good idea - have a POINT. It makes it SO much more interesting for the listener! " - Neal Page. Planes Trains & Automobiles.

#1486045Post 139 of 165

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[QUOTE=chunky;945262]Funny thing is building 7 came down in nearly the exact same time as the worlds largest controlled demolition on a building. I seem to remember pointing this out a few weeks back.[/QUOTE]

lolwut :Weirdoz :

#1486048Post 140 of 165

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;945265]Excellent post.

"And by the way, you know, when you're telling these little stories? Here's a good idea - have a POINT. It makes it SO much more interesting for the listener! " - Neal Page. Planes Trains & Automobiles.[/QUOTE]

Res0 you can't listen on a forum. You have to read. I wasn't telling any stories either. Fuck me you really know you're in trouble when ResO is quoting movies

#1486049Post 141 of 165

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;945266]lolwut :Weirdoz :[/QUOTE]

I can dig up the link if you want

#1486052Post 142 of 165

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none of the buildings feel at freefall speeds sonny.

#1486055Post 143 of 165

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;945273]none of the buildings feel at freefall speeds sonny.[/QUOTE]

WTF are you on about? If I made a typo care to point out where it is?

#1486064Post 144 of 165

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[QUOTE=chunky;945276]WTF are you on about? If I made a typo care to point out where it is?[/QUOTE]

er....typos on my part. none of the buildings ever fell at freefall speeds.

#1486142Post 145 of 165

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[QUOTE=Michael^Heaven;945191]A interesting read on the birth issue...

[LEFT][URL]http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=285921[/URL][/LEFT][/QUOTE] Oops, Fuckino must've misspoke. Take all that 911 garbage to the proper thread, ffs.

#1487067Post 146 of 165

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[QUOTE=runningman;943862]Obama spent $2 million in lawyer bills to block all this info. Why would he waste $2 mill if he could just pull i t out of his back pocket eh common sense?

[URL]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/42469716#42469716[/URL][/QUOTE]

nope.

[url]http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/04/11/trump_palin_two_million_birther[/url]

#1487071Post 147 of 165

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[video=youtube;-OkCPMJMZvY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OkCPMJMZvY[/video]

Funny this building didn't collapse and fall at free fall speed because of fire, and it burned for hours upon hours. Only respond to this if you watch this 30 sec clip.

I wonder which fire was hotter?

#1487078Post 148 of 165

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Not forgetting the Gulf Of Mexico Oil rig, burned for 2 days with a constant fuel supply, didn't suffer structural failure.

[video]http://youtu.be/8OEgAlLnPLs[/video]

#1487079Post 149 of 165

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[QUOTE=runningman;946423][video=youtube;-OkCPMJMZvY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OkCPMJMZvY[/video]

Funny this building didn't collapse and fall at free fall speed because of fire, and it burned for hours upon hours. Only respond to this if you watch this 30 sec clip.

I wonder which fire was hotter?[/QUOTE]

:lol: what the fuck does this have to do with anything whatsoever? :jacked:

#1487081Post 150 of 165

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He's keep in the spirit of things

#1487084Post 151 of 165

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Have you ever asked yourself "Why hasn't he shown it?"

What is the harm in showing? Please oh enlightened ones explain to me why showing it is such a bad idea?

#1487085Post 152 of 165

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[QUOTE=runningman;946436]Have you ever asked yourself "Why hasn't he shown it?"

What is the harm in showing? Please oh enlightened ones explain to me why showing it is such a bad idea?[/QUOTE]

:deadhorse::deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse:

BECAUSE ITS FUCKING BEEN DONE ALREADY!! DAMN.

:deadhorse::deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse:

Sorry if you and 50 other rednecks who can't read want to see it, too fucking bad.

#1487088Post 153 of 165

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[QUOTE=runningman;946436] What is the harm in showing? Please oh enlightened ones explain to me why showing it is such a bad idea?[/QUOTE]

Because apparently most people are happy to rely on dubious eyewitnesses.

#1487090Post 154 of 165

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Reso show me where he showed it? His birth certificate. Not a news paper article his birth certificate..

You are the one beating the dead horse.

#1487102Post 155 of 165

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[QUOTE=chunky;946440]Because apparently most people are happy to rely on dubious eyewitnesses.[/QUOTE]

orly? then every single person involved in the process must be part of the conspiracy.

cia?

[QUOTE=runningman;946444]Reso show me where he showed it? His birth certificate. Not a news paper article his birth certificate..

You are the one beating the dead horse.[/QUOTE]

the people that count did. you didnt. too bad.

#1487103Post 156 of 165

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No you're too bad.. I do believe there is a giant conspiracy to bring the US down as the major super power. I believe the standard of living in the US will constantly come down until it matches everyone in the world. I believe there never will be recovery from this depression(there may be a plateau lower but never a recovery).

The trend is down act accordingly.

#1487137Post 157 of 165

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^To further your conspiracy angle, here is some exhaustive info about a sudden 2008 visit (supposedly to visit his ailing grandmother, but why wouldn't his wife and kids come along if that was the primary intent for the visit?) to HI that was made by 0bama in order to resolve a matter of ineligibility in order to be included on the ballot there. Freedom of Information Requests helped to uncover the truth that the MSM just didn't report.

[quote][FONT=trebuchet ms][COLOR=white][FONT=verdana]New analysis of Democrat Party's official 2008 Certification of Nominations for Obama reveals that reasons for his sudden trip to Hawaii in October, 2008 were to visit more than just his sick grandmother. Hawaiian election laws, media accounts and post-dated documents reveal he may have attended a private hearing with the Hawaiian Chief Elections Officer regarding his disqualification from the Hawaiian ballot due to lack of certified Constitutional eligibility.[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/quote][FONT=trebuchet ms][I][COLOR=#660000][FONT=verdana]

[URL]http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2011/01/o-con-had-legal-help-from-non-partisan.html[/URL] [/FONT][/COLOR][/I][/FONT][FONT=courier new][FONT=trebuchet ms][B] REVIEWING THE FACTS[/B][/FONT]

[FONT=trebuchet ms]1. Electors from each state rely on each party’s state authority in that state to certify the nomination of their candidates and verify their legal qualifications to serve under the provisions of the U.S. Constitution.[/FONT]

[FONT=trebuchet ms]2. Hawaiian election law specifically requires each state’s party authority to file a sworn application (Official Certification of Nomination) with Hawaii’s Chief Elections Officer certifying the eligibility of each candidate to serve as President and Vice President of the United States.[/FONT]

[FONT=trebuchet ms]3. Hawaii Revised Statute 11-113(c)(1)(B) specifically requires that this sworn application from each state party authority contains explicit language stating that all candidates are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution in order for the Chief Elections Officer to approve the candidate for placement on the state’s presidential ballot.[/FONT]

[FONT=trebuchet ms]4. On August 27th, 2008, by notary attestment, authorities of the Democrat Party of Hawaii (DPH) signed a sworn Official Certification of Nomination and was required to submit the document to Hawaii's Chief Election Officer, Kevin Cronin before 4:30 p.m. on [B][I]September 5, 2008 or September 8, 2008 allowing for the count of one additional business day for one lost on Labor day.[/I][/B] [/FONT]

[FONT=trebuchet ms]5. The DPH, chaired by Brian Schatz, refused to include legally required language, per HRS 11-113(c)(1)(B), within the state party’s Official Certification of Nomination stating that Obama was Constitutionally eligible to serve as President.[/FONT]

[FONT=trebuchet ms]6. The Democrat Party of Hawaii included this legally required language for other Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates in past elections dating to, at least, 2000 and 2004. Therefore, the omission of this language within the DPH’s 2008 OCON of Obama’s candidacy is not a mistake or an oversight. It was done intentionally and with full understanding of Brian Schatz that the Hawaiian CEO, Kevin Cronin, would not be legally permitted to approve Barack Obama as a candidate on the Hawaiian presidential ballot, unless the Democratic National Committee (the national party authority) included this language in its OCON. [/FONT]

[FONT=trebuchet ms]7. The Republican Party of Hawaii included the legally required language in its sworn 2008 Official Certification of Nomination for John McCain and Sarah Palin, per HRS 11-113, without reservation or exceptions. [/FONT]

[FONT=trebuchet ms]8. The Democrat Party of Hawaii refused to acknowledge that Barack Obama was legally qualified to serve as president under the provisions of U.S. Constitution and, therefore, the DPH refused to provide legal certification allowing the Hawaiian Chief Elections Officer to approve the placement of Barack Obama on the Hawaiian presidential ballot. [/FONT]

[FONT=trebuchet ms]9. Since the DPH did not provide legal certification of Barack Obama's constitutional candidacy, Kevin Cronin, was required to send a written notice to Barack Obama informing him that the DPH [B]refused to provide legal certification of his candidacy for approval of his inclusion on the State of Hawaii’s 2008 presidential ballot.[/B] Cronin was legally required to send this notification within 10 business days from the time Cronin received the OCON from the DPH. Cronin also had the option, under HRS 11-113, to extend the notification deadline five more business days for a total of 15 days from the day the DPH filed the OCON.[/FONT]

[FONT=trebuchet ms]10. The DPH's OCON is dated August 27th, 2008. However, HRS 11-113 provides that OCONs may be filed by 4:30 p.m. on no less than the 60th day prior to the day of the election. In this case, based on the alleged notarization date appearing the DPH's OCON, the DPH still had eight more days to file the OCON and perhaps request verification documentation from Obama. Therefore, Obama received his notification of the Hawaiian CEO's findings no later than September 29th, 2008. [/FONT]

[FONT=trebuchet ms]11. However, documents provided by the Hawaiian Election Commission show that the Democratic National Committee, chaired by Nancy Pelosi, signed its 2008 Official Certification of Nomination with a date of August 28, 2008. However, documented evidence shows that the DNC also authored a separate version of its OCON at a later time. One version was sent only to Hawaii containing specific wording which directly contradicted that state party’s Constitutional authority to declare that Barack Obama was not constitutionally eligible to serve as President and was, therefore, not approved for inclusion on the Hawaiian presidential ballot. [/FONT]

[FONT=trebuchet ms]12. Article IV-Section 4, Article IV-Section 1 and Article II-Section 1 of the Constitution grants sovereignty for certifying a candidate’s nomination and approving a candidate’s inclusion on each state’s presidential ballot to each state. The Democratic National Committee does not have the legal authority to supersede the sovereignty of Hawaii’s appointed authority to conduct election, approve ballot content and certify the nomination of candidates.[/FONT]

[FONT=trebuchet ms]13. By intentionally contradicting the findings of Hawaii’s party authority for the purpose of forcing the state of Hawaii to include Obama’s candidacy on its ballot, the Democratic National Committee, headed by Nancy Pelosi, committed election fraud and violated the Constitutional right of the people of the state of Hawaii to an election process in which supreme power is held by the citizens and their entitlement to vote for Constitutionally eligible candidates.[/FONT]

[FONT=trebuchet ms]14. The Official Certification of Nomination sent to Hawaii’s Chief Elections Officer by the DNC was not sent to any other state’s CEO.[/FONT]

[FONT=trebuchet ms]15. Based on the authority given them by the Constitution, some states’ election laws do not require an explicit statement indicating a candidate’s legal qualifications to serve under the provisions of the Constitution, like Hawaii, but rather a general statement citing documentation that the candidate is qualified under federal law to serve as President and Vice President.[/FONT]

[FONT=trebuchet ms]16. The DNC sent a different OCON to every other state omitting the reference to Constitutional eligibility.[/FONT]

[FONT=trebuchet ms]17. Cronin sent written notification to Obama stating that Obama was found legally qualified to serve as President under the provisions of the U.S. Constitution based on the DNC’s OCON.[/FONT]

[FONT=trebuchet ms]18. The Democratic Party of Hawaii and the Democratic National Committee do not agree with one another about the Constitutional qualifications of Barack Obama.[/FONT]

[FONT=trebuchet ms]19. Cronin’s notifications have never been revealed to the public.[/FONT]

[FONT=trebuchet ms]20. If the notification from Cronin to Obama stated that Obama was found not qualified to be on the Hawaiian ballot, Obama had five business days after the finding to send a written request for a hearing to contest the finding and reconcile his lack of eligibility with the DPH.[/FONT]

[FONT=trebuchet ms]21. Upon receiving a request for a hearing from Obama, Cronin was obligated to schedule the hearing within 10 business days of receiving the request.[/FONT]

[FONT=trebuchet ms]22. Hearings to contest candidate eligibility findings are conducted under Administrative Procedures governed by HRS AR 91, 92 and 3-170.[/FONT]

[FONT=trebuchet ms]23. AR 91-9 allows a petitioner for a hearing to request reasonable scheduling accommodations in order to attend the hearing based on travel, personal matters and/or financial issues.[/FONT]

[FONT=trebuchet ms]24. The hearing would have been conducted around mid to late October, 2008.[/FONT]

[FONT=trebuchet ms]25. Barack Obama’s grandmother was reported to have become gravely ill in early to mid October, 2008.[/FONT]

[FONT=trebuchet ms]26. Barack Obama was in Hawaii in mid October, 2008. The American public was told that his only business there was to visit with his ill grandmother.[/FONT]

[FONT=trebuchet ms]27. Obama went to Hawaii, suddenly, without his wife and children, even though Dunham's condition was reported to have been expectedly declining for several weeks, during which, at any time, Obama could have otherwise scheduled a planned visit. The exclusion of Dunham's great-grandchildren and Michelle Obama during this visit is odd. Madelyn Dunham did not pass away for two more weeks after Obama's visit having never been visited by Obama's family in her final months. [/FONT]

[FONT=trebuchet ms]27. HRS 11-113 (b) states: If there is no national party or the national and state parties…do not agree on the presidential and vice presidential candidates, the chief election officer may determine which candidates' names shall be placed on the ballot or may leave the candidates' names off the ballot completely.[/FONT]

[FONT=trebuchet ms]28. Barack Obama was included on the 2008 Hawaiian Presidential ballot.[/FONT][/FONT]

#1487138Post 158 of 165

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you are a fool. that is all.

good job on being a puppet for the dumbest .04% of america.

#1487141Post 159 of 165

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At least I'm not a defender of fraud. You're in the top 10% of the most gullible.

You never have any defense, mostly just innuendo, one-line responses ('lolwut") and baseless attacks. You of all people deserve hyperinflation and a dollar collapse.

This is why you're on ignore and I make it a point to not read your nonsense as much as possible (at times I'm weak and I can't help but see what your latest claim/denial/diversion is...that's coming to an end, enjoy talking to the wind).

You disputed nothing in the above article (thereby admitting its truth), so spare me the Alinsky tactics.

#1487143Post 160 of 165

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Lord, you think that the rational discussion discounting all of your bullshit is missing here because we have no defense?

No, it is the exact same reason as the 'great media coverup' you claim. Your stupid ass bullshit doesn't get published in actual newspapers, with real, actual editors, because that reporter who tried to spew that would get his ass beat up and down the street by his editor because it is so full of holes. Yet you latch on because you wanna hate on foreign named black man. AKA it is so fucking stupid to respond to, it is not even worth the time.

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