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qazaffi is gone

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The UK & US, two faced back stabbing bastards, they didn't mind him for some rendition.:)

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Do ya reckon he will have a [url="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=324"]burial[/url] at sea or will he be buried with a proper Islamic funeral.

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fuck me you cant even say [url="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=324"]BURIAL[/url] without it highlighting some silly DJ's name

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[QUOTE=chunky;997493]fuck me [/QUOTE]

no.

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he looked smashed, they dont want him buried on libyan land completely

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[QUOTE=chunky;997490]The UK & US, two faced back stabbing bastards[/QUOTE]

Yet more war crimes

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^^^ Yep !!

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head in sand about quadaffi killing people. sokay this is teh internets.

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No head in sand , multiple wrongs make nothing right. The US is way up there in the killing people stakes both directly and indirectly .

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Conviently ignore UN security resolution 1973 approved by 9 other countries in addition to the US.

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I'll just assume you're playing devil's advocate res0, if so fair enough i'll not respond.

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I'm just pointing out that it's not like we are the big bad guys bossing everyone in the world around and doing whatever we want and everyone else is just cowering by and taking it. The Libya issue was not a one country affair is all I'm saying.

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;997774]it's not like we are the big bad guys bossing everyone in the world around and doing whatever we want and everyone else is just cowering by and taking it.[/QUOTE]

No, it's not [I]like[/I] that, it's [I]exactly[/I] that.

As an Englishman i'm ashamed of the actions of my government yet again. They fucking disgust me.

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the world is changing, much more to come, i think the good times are over

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There were good times??? :(

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[QUOTE=bobjuice;997777]No, it's not [I]like[/I] that, it's [I]exactly[/I] that.

As an Englishman i'm ashamed of the actions of my government yet again. They fucking disgust me.[/QUOTE]

voice of reason

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Now the shit will hit the fan. Just like after Saddam got killed. The enemies had something in common by killing Gadaffi and now they will be fighting for power.

What a mess.. what a great humanitarian mission filled with death and misery.

Oh ya Gaddafi isn't dead he has just been removed of power. The Divine Right of Kings is in play here..

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It's safe to say the sh*t already hit the fan with reports of killings over the last several months. I guess it could be at high speed now.

I was no fan of this Libyan invasion (an assassination would've been much cleaner, less civilian deaths, et al) but just so I'm clear, are we wholesale discounting the report in the 80s where Gadaffi was accused of shooting down an airliner (and if not him, who are we blaming on this one, the zionists again?)? Do most feel this was a fabrication or lacking in evidence? Would you have preferred if he was forcibly taken to the international criminal court and tried?

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[QUOTE=runningman;997980]What a mess.. what a great humanitarian mission filled with death and misery.[/QUOTE]

NATO dropping bombs/drones left right and centre and providing weaponry arms; Humanitarian?

This disgusts me: [h=1][SIZE=4]Muammar Gaddafi's 'trophy' body on show in Misrata meat store[/SIZE][/h][QUOTE]Bloodied, wearing just a pair of khaki trousers, and dumped on a cheap mattress, [URL="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/muammar-gaddafi"]Muammar Gaddafi[/URL]'s body has become a gruesome tourist attraction and a macabre symbol of the new [URL="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/libya"]Libya[/URL]'s problems. Hundreds of ordinary Libyans queued up outside a refrigerated meat store in Misrata, where the dead dictator was being stored as a trophy. A guard allowed small groups into the room to celebrate next to Gaddafi's body. They posed for photos, flashing victory signs, and burst into jubilant cries of "God is great." Wounds on Gaddafi's body appeared to confirm that he was indeed killed in cold blood in the chaotic minutes following his capture on Thursday. He was found in the town of Sirte, hiding in a drainage pipe. There was a close-range bullet wound on the left side of his head. Blood stains showed another bullet wound to his thorax. His body, subsequently driven to Misrata and publicly paraded, was barefoot and stripped to the waist.

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[url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/21/muammar-gaddafi-body-misrata-meat-store[/url]

[IMG]http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2011/10/21/1319224231870/Muammar-Gaddafi--trophy---007.jpg[/IMG]

The whole Islamic belief of being buried after 24 hours, that's out the window. I think this is due to the UN requiring a third party investigation. Well fuck me, it's ok to send in NATO to bomb the fuck out of Libya but we need an investigation on the death of Gaddafi?

[QUOTE]The [url="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=324"]burial[/url] of [URL="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/muammar-gaddafi"]Muammar Gaddafi[/URL] has been delayed until an outside investigation into the still mysterious circumstances of the former Libyan dictator's death can be carried out, according to a senior member of the governing National Transitional Council. The NTC had planned for Gaddafi to be buried at an undisclosed location on Friday. However, Mohamed Sayeh said a "third party will come from outside of [URL="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/libya"]Libya[/URL] to go through the paperwork". He said the third party could be the international criminal court, based in The Hague.

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So now all we can do is wait, is Libya going to follow democracy or autocracy? Also, time to send in the contractors.

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[QUOTE=vinnie97;997986]It's safe to say the sh*t already hit the fan with reports of killings over the last several months. I guess it could be at high speed now.

I was no fan of this Libyan invasion (an assassination would've been much cleaner, less civilian deaths, et al) but just so I'm clear, are we wholesale discounting the report in the 80s where Gadaffi was accused of shooting down an airliner (and if not him, who are we blaming on this one, the zionists again?)? Do most feel this was a fabrication or lacking in evidence? Would you have preferred if he was forcibly taken to the international criminal court and tried?[/QUOTE] OK, I take by the silence that that all of those complaining about his death presume he's not guilty and you must feel the preponderance of evidence is lacking, etc. Again, even if guilty, this is not a valid excuse to go on a costly civilian bombing campaign in the name of freedom (more like NATO compulsion)...a targeted assassination would be another story, though I suspect most of you would also be unhappy about that arguing that the dictator didn't receive a fair trial.

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The UN would never approve a targeted assassination measure.

Fuck em, one less asshole in the world alive.

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Anyone who doesn't feel sick at the videos of his death worries me a great deal. It speaks more to his killers. But any investigation is pretty well a joke , diversionary tactics. Who doesn't know how he was killed.??

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;998130]The UN would never approve a targeted assassination measure.

Fuck em, one less asshole in the world alive.[/QUOTE]

I seriously do not understand the UN. Assassinations = NO Bombing the fuck out of everything = Shit yes!

Such a childish approach.

[QUOTE]The United Nations Security Council authorized military force Thursday against Libyan leader Col. Moammar Gadhafi's security forces, opening the way for European and U.S. airstrikes within days.The U.N. action, pushed aggressively by France and the U.K., came as Col. Gadhafi's security forces continued their assault toward Benghazi, the de-facto capital of rebels trying to end his 42-year rule.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703818204576206373350344478.html[/url]

Yes Gaddafi is guilty for his torment and anguish on the nation of Libya as a whole, but to take him or his regime there must have been a less destructive way. you do have several obstacles such as loyalists, political control, and the likes.

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[QUOTE=Illuminate;998214]I seriously do not understand the UN. Assassinations = NO Bombing the fuck out of everything = Shit yes!

Such a childish approach. [/quote]

Yup.

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We finally agree on something, Rez ("fuck the UN").

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good movie on how awesome the un is: [url]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0896872/[/url]

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well i think theyve gone a bit too far with what they did to him, but i do understand what lead to this, its like going to a group of kids that there school principal has been beating the shit out of and then tell em u know what, u fight that principal and we got ur back, smart way to get him without staining their hands and being in the big picture as the killers...

on the other side, keeping his body like this and the torture is not islamic, it would have been more just if they caught him and ordered a death sentence on him...but i guess their anger and long awaited capture is what lead to this, ffs if the people catch a thief on the streets of libya he will get beat the fuck out by the citizens before they send him any where, so u can imagine

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I understand why it happened, but it still makes me very sad that it did happen !

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[video=youtube;HXkJ5Y-YKZ8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXkJ5Y-YKZ8[/video]

[URL="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8841923/Gaddafis-death-British-businessmen-should-be-heading-to-Libya-for-contracts.html"]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8841923/Gaddafis-death-British-businessmen-should-be-heading-to-Libya-for-contracts.html

f[/URL]ucking disgrace! propaganda, warmongering and violence glorification. Already lining up the next target...bbc should be ashamed.

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:( And people continue to fund the bbc and buy the sun and daily mail.

I've nothing more to say, I fucking give up

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The Western backed public torture, murder of Gaddafi is a crime against humanity. He was captured, defenseless and should have been handed over to the courts to answer all charges made against him.

No human being deserves to be treated in that manner regardless of their past actions. And the most disturbing thing is that nutjobs in power want to go to Syria, Iran next.

Expect more death, destruction for years to come, as the real fight in Libya and other nations, has only just begun.

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lol gtfo. the western powers didnt sit by and say 'lets leave his dead body outside and make an example of him'. the crazy ass rebels did that. uh, this isn't a new thing to happen in the middle east to people...

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;998847]this isn't a new thing to happen to people in the middle east since NATO showed up ...[/QUOTE]

Fixed.

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The gaddafi story sounds a lot like the OBL story.

OBL - Gave up and surrendered Gaddafi - Surrendered

OBL - Buried in an unmarked location Gaddafi - Buried in unmarked location

The real question is why?

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;998847]lol gtfo. the western powers didnt sit by and say 'lets leave his dead body outside and make an example of him'. the crazy ass rebels did that. uh, this isn't a new thing to happen in the middle east to people...[/QUOTE] How long did they support his regime??

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[QUOTE=runningman;998871]Fixed.[/QUOTE]

uh.

[QUOTE=DIDI;998880]How long did they support his regime??[/QUOTE]

im guessing by they you mean the western world, but i aint talkin bout them. im talkin bout the idiots on the street slappin his fro while hes dead on the ground.

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;998847]lol gtfo. the western powers didnt sit by and say 'lets leave his dead body outside and make an example of him'. the crazy ass rebels did that. uh, this isn't a new thing to happen in the middle east to people...[/QUOTE]

The Western powers and their partners in crime tell the rebels what to do, not the other way round.

And I also understand that boredom can be a bitch most times, but please, put a little effort into the next post you make on the issue.

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lolyarite. just like how the western powers have told the afghani's and iraqi's what to do right, seeing as how that is working out SO well.

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I sense a notion of confusion amongst the relationship that Gaddafi and the West has, maybe this can clear things up:

[video=youtube;Anb6_MKyywM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Anb6_MKyywM[/video]

[QUOTE]Muammar Muhammad al-Gaddafi (born 7 June 1942) is a Libyan politician and revolutionary, who has led the Libyan state since he overthrew King Idris in a 1969 bloodless coup and established the Libyan Arab Republic.He went on to survive revolts, military strikes and embargoes while showing a knack for playing to Western interests, namely geopolitical security and oil reserves. It’s no surprise many of the interviews about hidden dealings are tainted by realpolitik. These personal accounts from key players are a fascinating foray into the diplomatic world of riddles, theatrics and hidden agendas. In early February 2011, major political protests, which were inspired by recent protests in Tunisia, Egypt and other parts of the Arab world, broke out in Libya against Gaddafi’s government and quickly turned into a civil war. Gaddafi vowed to [I]die a martyr[/I] if necessary in his fight against rebels and external forces, saying that those rebelling against his government deserve to die. On 17 May 2011 the International Criminal Court issued a request for an arrest warrant against Gaddafi for crimes against humanity. This insightful essay-style documentary by Frenchman Antoine Vitkine puts current events into perspective by examining the motivations behind the actions of Libyan leader Colonel Muammar Gaddafi, a man whose peculiar appearance belies savvy negotiation skills.

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[url]http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/gaddafi-our-best-villain/[/url]