Re: What is Going on in Egypt?

[QUOTE=runningman;924172]Celente predicted this and he says there is a lot more to come. They won't happen all at once but the revolutions are spreading.

[video=youtube;Q8ZFL-Id6fk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8ZFL-Id6fk[/video][/QUOTE]

yeah, i called for morocco and algeria to reform earlier this week. hmmm

side question: do you seriously trust the youth of today....

...the youth that spends their time playing video games

...spends time acting delinquent

...spends time ignoring responsibility

...who think 'wisdom' can be found on wikipedia

...who are persuaded by emotion more than they are of fact and logic

...who develop their digital lives on myspace and facebook at home

...who did not peacefully protest in the UK, or in Egypt, and so on

...who believe in the techno-marxist views found in zeitgiest

...who believe that money is evil

...who believes in memes, not literature

...who have become generation zero

...who have shown both narcissist and nihilist qualities....

....do you trust their judgment on knowing what is best?

before you answer, read this:

[URL]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/28/AR2011012806404_4.html[/URL]

key quote:

[quote]We need a just government. It doesn’t matter whether it’s Islamic or secular. The issue is justice.[/quote]

Re: What is Going on in Egypt?

Oh I know all about the Muslim Brotherhood. The people are losing it like I said because the West failed at giving them a better life. Plain and simple. Of course they will go back to what they know - Islam.

I personally don;'t care radical islam. To me it is about 20th on the list of things that need to be fixed. #1 is China and Human Rights.

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I trust that people (Young or old) know when they feel like they are getting shit on.

What;s with all the babysitter talk? Do you think that the US gov't should wipe everyone's ass?

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[QUOTE=runningman;924178]Oh I know all about the Muslim Brotherhood. The people are losing it like I said because the West failed at giving them a better life. Plain and simple. Of course they will go back to what they know - Islam.

I personally don;'t care radical islam. To me it is about 20th on the list of things that need to be fixed. #1 is China and Human Rights.[/QUOTE]

how is the west supposed to give them a better life? barring invasion and regime change lol, i'm not sure what you think should have been done?

and what compels the west to do so? if, as you say, fundamentalist islam is the standard to which all islamic-dominated countries will return...what's the point?

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[QUOTE=runningman;924179]I trust that people (Young or old) know when they feel like they are getting shit on.

What;s with all the babysitter talk? Do you think that the US gov't should wipe everyone's ass?[/QUOTE]

the world would be more free, more efficient, and more respectful of human rights if every country become an additional state to our nation with rights, privileges, immunities, and freedom that comes with such citizenship.

the model is there. but few want it.

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The west could have given them a better life with trade and money. Money usually solves all problems. The gets to print it for free anyways so why not get rid of the debts and start on a clean slate.

Why are you so worried about "radical islam" China is the one wrecking your country? Who really cares what leadership there is in Egypt.. I mean fuck Egypt?

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THE US SUPPORTS DICTATORS. They like them. So please spare us the "US is so free" shit.

Let;s look at your liberations

Afghanistan - President Karzai has been in power now for what? 9 years. Everyone knows he is an American Dictator in Afghanistan for the Heroin, Lithium and the oil pipeline.

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[QUOTE=88Mariner;924180]how is the west supposed to give them a better life? [/QUOTE]

how about you just fuck off

Re: What is Going on in Egypt?

[QUOTE=runningman;924182] I mean fuck Egypt?[/QUOTE]

Fuck you

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fuck me what? In the grand scheme of things important to the US Egypt is not one of them.

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but u didnt have to say that...

u dont see me saying fuck canada, even tho its not important for anything at all

Re: What is Going on in Egypt?

[QUOTE=runningman;924182]The west could have given them a better life with trade and money. Money usually solves all problems. The gets to print it for free anyways so why not get rid of the debts and start on a clean slate.

Why are you so worried about "radical islam" China is the one wrecking your country? Who really cares what leadership there is in Egypt.. I mean fuck Egypt?[/QUOTE]

trade? money? how? what real value can be found in egypt? giving people money freely makes them resentful. are you going to force people to trade with egypt? why should our country be saddled with more debt just to make a small dent?

which is it do you want? do you want temporary freedom for egyptians? or do you want stability paid for by our incurring more debt?

this thread title querries; what is going on in egypt? if you want to talk about china, by all means, open another thread on topic. (unless you mean 'what is going on in egypt? we shouldn't give a fuck about them when china is destroying our country')

Radical islam poses the greatest existential threat to western civilization. even the chinese know this!

[QUOTE=runningman;924183]THE US SUPPORTS DICTATORS. They like them. So please spare us the "US is so free" shit.[/QUOTE]

where did i say the "US is so free" comparitively speaking, we kinda are. Our foundational laws are excellent. Did you skip that part? why can't any country copy our founding fucking document? it's there. it's free to take. public domain!

fuck sake, canada has hilarious censorship laws. would you think that's a better model? what about australia? england? oh right, censorship. censorship errywhere.....

[QUOTE=trick12;924184]how about you just fuck off[/QUOTE]

u mad? yeah, u mad.

i'm not sure why though.

Re: What is Going on in Egypt?

Sorry I didn't mean it as "Fuck Egypt" I meant "Fuck like the US cares about Egypt that much"

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[I][COLOR="red"]Radical islam poses the greatest existential threat to western civilization. even the chinese know this![/COLOR][/I]

^^What a crock of shit this is. You watch Fox to much. How maany Americans have died from radical islam in the last 8 years? Not counting the occupation

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[QUOTE=runningman;924193][I][COLOR="red"]Radical islam poses the greatest existential threat to western civilization. even the chinese know this![/COLOR][/I]

^^What a crock of shit this is. You watch Fox to much. How maany Americans have died from radical islam in the last 8 years? Not counting the occupation[/QUOTE]

I watch fox news? i don't even get fox news. lmao.

My views on islam and western civilization have very little to do with the countless bombings and pointless killings in the name of islam or how many americans have been injured etc... Surely you must think my views are way more complicated than than sound bytes from fox news (they are, and you should know better lol).

hell, even fox news perpetuates the 'religion of peace' meme. right? c'mon son. c'mon. think long term. think demographic shift. think cultural and religious norms.

Re: What is Going on in Egypt?

[QUOTE=88Mariner;924190]Radical islam poses the greatest existential threat to western civilization. even the chinese know this! [/QUOTE]

[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Seriously Mariner, do you sit there with a straight face whilst posting such shameless pro zionist propagandist bullshit?[/FONT][/SIZE]

[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Muslims do not invade and occupy Christian nations, the Muslims had nothing to do with Hitler and his 'final solution', the Muslims did not start WW1 WW2 and all other wars that the West have helped instigate, Muslims do not overthrow governments of Christian nations or any other, Muslims are not the banksters of the world who have raped the US and world all over, Muslims do not control Wall Street, Muslims do not attack Christian nations or any other and steal their resources, Muslims are not the ones who are stockpiling WMD and threatening other nations with them, Muslims are not the ones bashing Jesus and all things Christian, Muslims are not the ones who control the whorish MSM, Muslims do not control the very sick and anti Islam, anti Christian thing they call Hollywood, Muslims do not control and promote the US or world wide porn industry, the Muslims do not control the US or world wide illicit drug industry, Muslims do not control the US congress and it's treasonous and failed foreign affairs policies, the Muslims did not lie openly to the American citizens and send their nation, armed forces into two unjust and unwinnable wars, the Muslims do not force the US tax payer to hand over their hard eared billions to a terrorist state who in turn uses that money to inflict even more pain and suffering of innocent men, woman and children, the Muslims do not extort money from Christian nations, the Muslims do control the UN or the IMF, the Muslims are not the responsible for the jobless, homeless and hopelessness of the citizens in the US and world all over, the Muslims are not the ones raping third world nations, the Muslims are not kicking out Christian from their homes and replacing them with non Christians, the Muslims are not the who on a daily basis is spying on America and it's citizens, the Muslims are not the ones who are cheering for war with Iran, the Muslims are not the ones calling for the nuclear option to be used on a nation which has never ever posed a threat to the US, the Muslims are not the ones burning Christian bibles, the Muslims do not force the whores of Washington take turns at grovelling shamelessly at the filthy feet of AIPAC, the Muslims are not the ones who are stopping all the Christian traditions that once were had in the US, the Muslims are not responsible for the trillion plus dollars spent on the "wars" in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Muslims are not responsible for the deaths of over 1 million dead Iraqi men, woman and children, the Muslims are not responsible for the thousands of dead Afghani men, woman and children, the Muslims were not responsible for the millions of Germans and Russians killed during WW2, the Muslims did not drop atomic bombs on the innocent civilians of Japan, the Muslims did not murder millions of Asians during the "Vietnam war" era, the Gulf Of Tonkin was not some sick delusional lie invented by the Muslims, the Muslims were not responsible for the attack on the USS liberty, the Lavan Affair wasn't brought about by Muslims as was Operations Northwood, Muslims do not control nor do they have any influence the in US supreme court, Muslims are not trying to take away Americans right to bear arms, Muslims are not in the business of stealing human body organs, parts, Muslims do not control popular culture in the US or world, the Muslims do not control the music of fashion industry, the Muslims do not want to start WW3 nor do they speak of it, the Muslims do not want to fight against Christians period, the Muslims do not control the arms industry, the Muslims are not responsible for demonizing African Americans in the US, the Muslims are not responsible for the American slave trade, the Muslims did not kill JFK, the Muslims do not use phosphorus gas on innocent civilians, the Muslims do not built walls that divide nations, the Muslims do not rig US elections, the Muslims are not responsible for the hole in the ozone layer or even climate change, the Muslims are not invading Christian nations and leaving depleted uranium, the Muslims are not invading Christian nations and raping, torturing their imprisoned men, woman and children, the Muslims are not invading Christian nations and gang raping 14 year girls and then murdering their entire family in the hope of covering up their hideous crimes, the Muslims are not letting pregnant woman die giving birth at checkpoints, the Muslims are not bombing UN compounds, the Muslims are not invading or threatening nations from the South America, the Muslims are not kidnapping Christians and having them renditioned or sent to Guantanamo, the Muslims are not flushing Christian bibles down the toilet, the Muslims are not responsible for the dotcom bust, the Muslims are not in control of the Federal Reserve Bank, Muslims are not in control of investment firms in the US, Muslims are not responsible for the recent Gulf oil spill, the Muslims are not in control of the legal system in the US, the Muslims are not in control of the Universities in the US, the Muslims are not the ones manipulating Americans and dumbing their nation, the Muslims are not enslaving the citizens of the world, the Muslims do not call non Muslims animals and that their only meaningful existence in life is to serve them, Muslims do not call Jesus the son of a whore, the Muslims are not responsible for the US spying on it's citizens, the Muslims are not responsible for the TSA porno scans, the Muslims were not involved with Clinton getting his rod polished by Lewinski, the Muslims are not responsible for sending the US down the shitter. [/FONT][/SIZE]

[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Oh the memories. I could literally go on for days exposing who the real threat to all of mankind are but I won't, it's more than enough for now. But I will finish my very short list with this; the Muslims have never threatened to harm not even a single hair of any Chinese citizen in any way shape or form. China just like the rest of the world, know exactly who the real enemy is and it sure as hell isn’t the Muslims. [/SIZE][/FONT]

[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]By all means, continue as you will with all the pro zionist lies and help those reading this, in understanding how delusional and completely out of touch with humanity or any sort of reality your kind really are. [/FONT][/SIZE]

Re: What is Going on in Egypt?

Ohhh Shit what a post dig..:Bingo::Bingo:

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ah, Dig, "zee joooz". Psychobabble bullshit. It's typical though - I see it a lot. Anyone with the slightest kind words towards israel is an 'evil zionist'. it's a shame you wasted all of that time writing that though.

I could go through almost any of runningman's posts, replace the words "elite" "rich" "powerful" "globalists" "cabalists" "banksters" or "nwo" with the word 'jews' and be completely certain that Dig wrote it.

Dig's post, of course, ignores the unstoppable forces at work. Well, 'ignores' would be he recognizes the issue but ignores it anyways, and I don't think Dig has ever contemplated anything larger and more complex than newspaper headlines or tragically stupid quips from howard zinn.

Let me ask you something Dig: If I put 50 million mexicans into cairo, do you believe egyptian culture would last long there? If i put 50 million japanese into morocco, do you think moroccan culture would survive long or would it replaced with hello kitty nonsense over time? what if i put 50 million chinese into belgium? what do you honestly think will happen?

population x population growth x lack of assimilation x secessionist movements x time = islam is an existential threat to western civilization.

the demographic time bomb has been set. oddly enough, i blame the left-wing intelligentsia - many of who happen to be jooz (but let us be clear: left-wing 'jews' do not subscribed to anything jewish at all and are mostly atheist and...they're anti-zionists just like yourself!) for hindering the recognition of the demographic time bomb and the steps needed to disarm it. For, afterall, the law of unintended consequences is a law unknown in those circles. of course, the largest religious group on this planet, a religion that seems so protracted against western notions of freedom and individual liberty...could never...ever...be of any concern.

Ah yes, I should be the one believing that the middle east is a bastion of freedoms - to believe differently, to criticize openly, to speak freely. Just look at all the leaders out there, shouting how we need more individual freedom, less government. more property rights, less taxation. more responsibility, fewer entitlements. more freedoms...fewer restrictions. just look! all of them! there! somewhere. Well, i'm SURE they're there. somewhere.

It requires very little to see that where muslims dominate, they discriminate against other religions. where they're in the minority, they create seperatists groups demanding autonomy to permit them to live as if they were in tehran. And, with the growth in population of muslims in any particular place, the more open are they to more radical readings of the koran.

I'm sorry.

You're absolutely right, Dig.

Islam in no way poses any threat to western civilization.

Muslim population will never grow.

Muslims will stop immigrating to foreign countries.

Muslims will stop having an increasingly higher birth rate than the native citizenry.

Muslims will assuredly assimilate into dominant cultures across the globe. Insular muslim communities will phase out.

Muslim immigrants will treat non-muslims with mutuality, camaraderie, brotherhood, and equality.

Muslim immigrants will not demand a separate religious legal system apart from that of the laws governing the land they now live on.

The majority of muslims will put a leash on their minority hardliners. There will be no more apathy or indifference.

Muslims will eventually pick up the torch of freedom.

Muslims will never ostracize or threaten violence for those who leave or criticize their beliefs.

Muslims will modernize by diluting koranic scriptures.

Muslims will refuse to stand by the Caliphate.

Islam will be reformed to appease western expectancies.

Islam will soon have an internal war on faith in the name of reason, much like Voltaire qua christianity.

Time is on my side.

Re: What is Going on in Egypt?

[QUOTE=dig72;924265][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Seriously Mariner, do you sit there with a straight face whilst posting such shameless pro zionist propagandist bullshit?[/FONT][/SIZE]

[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Muslims do not invade and occupy Christian nations, the Muslims had nothing to do with Hitler and his 'final solution', the Muslims did not start WW1 WW2 and all other wars that the West have helped instigate, Muslims do not overthrow governments of Christian nations or any other, Muslims are not the banksters of the world who have raped the US and world all over, Muslims do not control Wall Street, Muslims do not attack Christian nations or any other and steal their resources, Muslims are not the ones who are stockpiling WMD and threatening other nations with them, Muslims are not the ones bashing Jesus and all things Christian, Muslims are not the ones who control the whorish MSM, Muslims do not control the very sick and anti Islam, anti Christian thing they call Hollywood, Muslims do not control and promote the US or world wide porn industry, the Muslims do not control the US or world wide illicit drug industry, Muslims do not control the US congress and it's treasonous and failed foreign affairs policies, the Muslims did not lie openly to the American citizens and send their nation, armed forces into two unjust and unwinnable wars, the Muslims do not force the US tax payer to hand over their hard eared billions to a terrorist state who in turn uses that money to inflict even more pain and suffering of innocent men, woman and children, the Muslims do not extort money from Christian nations, the Muslims do control the UN or the IMF, the Muslims are not the responsible for the jobless, homeless and hopelessness of the citizens in the US and world all over, the Muslims are not the ones raping third world nations, the Muslims are not kicking out Christian from their homes and replacing them with non Christians, the Muslims are not the who on a daily basis is spying on America and it's citizens, the Muslims are not the ones who are cheering for war with Iran, the Muslims are not the ones calling for the nuclear option to be used on a nation which has never ever posed a threat to the US, the Muslims are not the ones burning Christian bibles, the Muslims do not force the whores of Washington take turns at grovelling shamelessly at the filthy feet of AIPAC, the Muslims are not the ones who are stopping all the Christian traditions that once were had in the US, the Muslims are not responsible for the trillion plus dollars spent on the "wars" in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Muslims are not responsible for the deaths of over 1 million dead Iraqi men, woman and children, the Muslims are not responsible for the thousands of dead Afghani men, woman and children, the Muslims were not responsible for the millions of Germans and Russians killed during WW2, the Muslims did not drop atomic bombs on the innocent civilians of Japan, the Muslims did not murder millions of Asians during the "Vietnam war" era, the Gulf Of Tonkin was not some sick delusional lie invented by the Muslims, the Muslims were not responsible for the attack on the USS liberty, the Lavan Affair wasn't brought about by Muslims as was Operations Northwood, Muslims do not control nor do they have any influence the in US supreme court, Muslims are not trying to take away Americans right to bear arms, Muslims are not in the business of stealing human body organs, parts, Muslims do not control popular culture in the US or world, the Muslims do not control the music of fashion industry, the Muslims do not want to start WW3 nor do they speak of it, the Muslims do not want to fight against Christians period, the Muslims do not control the arms industry, the Muslims are not responsible for demonizing African Americans in the US, the Muslims are not responsible for the American slave trade, the Muslims did not kill JFK, the Muslims do not use phosphorus gas on innocent civilians, the Muslims do not built walls that divide nations, the Muslims do not rig US elections, the Muslims are not responsible for the hole in the ozone layer or even climate change, the Muslims are not invading Christian nations and leaving depleted uranium, the Muslims are not invading Christian nations and raping, torturing their imprisoned men, woman and children, the Muslims are not invading Christian nations and gang raping 14 year girls and then murdering their entire family in the hope of covering up their hideous crimes, the Muslims are not letting pregnant woman die giving birth at checkpoints, the Muslims are not bombing UN compounds, the Muslims are not invading or threatening nations from the South America, the Muslims are not kidnapping Christians and having them renditioned or sent to Guantanamo, the Muslims are not flushing Christian bibles down the toilet, the Muslims are not responsible for the dotcom bust, the Muslims are not in control of the Federal Reserve Bank, Muslims are not in control of investment firms in the US, Muslims are not responsible for the recent Gulf oil spill, the Muslims are not in control of the legal system in the US, the Muslims are not in control of the Universities in the US, the Muslims are not the ones manipulating Americans and dumbing their nation, the Muslims are not enslaving the citizens of the world, the Muslims do not call non Muslims animals and that their only meaningful existence in life is to serve them, Muslims do not call Jesus the son of a whore, the Muslims are not responsible for the US spying on it's citizens, the Muslims are not responsible for the TSA porno scans, the Muslims were not involved with Clinton getting his rod polished by Lewinski, the Muslims are not responsible for sending the US down the shitter. [/FONT][/SIZE]

[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Oh the memories. I could literally go on for days exposing who the real threat to all of mankind are but I won't, it's more than enough for now. But I will finish my very short list with this; the Muslims have never threatened to harm not even a single hair of any Chinese citizen in any way shape or form. China just like the rest of the world, know exactly who the real enemy is and it sure as hell isn’t the Muslims. [/SIZE][/FONT]

[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]By all means, continue as you will with all the pro zionist lies and help those reading this, in understanding how delusional and completely out of touch with humanity or any sort of reality your kind really are. [/FONT][/SIZE][/QUOTE]

:shock: Awesome

Re: What is Going on in Egypt?

Hush or IPMDave will pop up like the shop keeper from Mr Ben

Re: What is Going on in Egypt?

[QUOTE=88Mariner;924329]ah, Dig, "zee joooz". Psychobabble bullshit. It's typical though - I see it a lot. Anyone with the slightest kind words towards israel is an 'evil zionist'. it's a shame you wasted all of that time writing that though.

I could go through almost any of runningman's posts, replace the words "elite" "rich" "powerful" "globalists" "cabalists" "banksters" or "nwo" with the word 'jews' and be completely certain that Dig wrote it.

Dig's post, of course, ignores the unstoppable forces at work. Well, 'ignores' would be he recognizes the issue but ignores it anyways, and I don't think Dig has ever contemplated anything larger and more complex than newspaper headlines or tragically stupid quips from howard zinn.

Let me ask you something Dig: If I put 50 million mexicans into cairo, do you believe egyptian culture would last long there? If i put 50 million japanese into morocco, do you think moroccan culture would survive long or would it replaced with hello kitty nonsense over time? what if i put 50 million chinese into belgium? what do you honestly think will happen?

population x population growth x lack of assimilation x secessionist movements x time = islam is an existential threat to western civilization.

the demographic time bomb has been set. oddly enough, i blame the left-wing intelligentsia - many of who happen to be jooz (but let us be clear: left-wing 'jews' do not subscribed to anything jewish at all and are mostly atheist and...they're anti-zionists just like yourself!) for hindering the recognition of the demographic time bomb and the steps needed to disarm it. For, afterall, the law of unintended consequences is a law unknown in those circles. of course, the largest religious group on this planet, a religion that seems so protracted against western notions of freedom and individual liberty...could never...ever...be of any concern.

Ah yes, I should be the one believing that the middle east is a bastion of freedoms - to believe differently, to criticize openly, to speak freely. Just look at all the leaders out there, shouting how we need more individual freedom, less government. more property rights, less taxation. more responsibility, fewer entitlements. more freedoms...fewer restrictions. just look! all of them! there! somewhere. Well, i'm SURE they're there. somewhere.

It requires very little to see that where muslims dominate, they discriminate against other religions. where they're in the minority, they create seperatists groups demanding autonomy to permit them to live as if they were in tehran. And, with the growth in population of muslims in any particular place, the more open are they to more radical readings of the koran.

I'm sorry.

You're absolutely right, Dig.

Islam in no way poses any threat to western civilization.

Muslim population will never grow.

Muslims will stop immigrating to foreign countries.

Muslims will stop having an increasingly higher birth rate than the native citizenry.

Muslims will assuredly assimilate into dominant cultures across the globe. Insular muslim communities will phase out.

Muslim immigrants will treat non-muslims with mutuality, camaraderie, brotherhood, and equality.

Muslim immigrants will not demand a separate religious legal system apart from that of the laws governing the land they now live on.

The majority of muslims will put a leash on their minority hardliners. There will be no more apathy or indifference.

Muslims will eventually pick up the torch of freedom.

Muslims will never ostracize or threaten violence for those who leave or criticize their beliefs.

Muslims will modernize by diluting koranic scriptures.

Muslims will refuse to stand by the Caliphate.

Islam will be reformed to appease western expectancies.

Islam will soon have an internal war on faith in the name of reason, much like Voltaire qua christianity.

Time is on my side.[/QUOTE]

u scared?, yeah you scared

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[QUOTE=dig72;924265][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Seriously Mariner, do you sit there with a straight face whilst posting such shameless pro zionist propagandist bullshit?[/FONT][/SIZE][/QUOTE]

yes. anyone who doesn't zuck mohammed's dick is a zionist. grow the fuck you phaggot.

SO, following, is a long-ass list of very specific incidents that Dig says "oh muslims never did this, therefore your assertion that islam is an existential threat to western civilization is not true".

unfortunately for him, he passes up an excellent opportunity to make serious points about the direction islam is headed, the direction the western world is headed, the concept of demographic shifts across our planet, and history in general.

but he does so and instead vindicates Islam by saying 'they didn't do x y or z" therefore I [i]must[/] be wrong.

i could just as well say that the Mexicans didn't start WW1, or rape (lol) resources from foreign countries or prevent a pregnant woman from dying while giving birth at a checkpoint....but that wouldn't give me any force in asserting that the mexican's had no special role in shaping the future of the united states.

anyways, i've decided to spend a short amount of time humouring myself.

[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][quote]Muslims do not invade and occupy Christian nations[/quote]Right. that's never happened. ever.

[quote]the Muslims had nothing to do with Hitler and his 'final solution'[/quote]no. but they carry on his tradition. they would never try to finish what he started. ever.

[quote] the Muslims did not start WW1 WW2 and all other wars that the West have helped instigate[/quote]the west instigated WW1? the west instigated WW2?

Muslims never ever started any conflict ever. ever.

[quote]Muslims do not overthrow governments of Christian nations or any other[/quote]Christian nation? where? you keep talking about christian nations as if it were Islam vs. Christianity.

You're close. It's Islam vs. Non-muslims.

[quote]Muslims are not the banksters of the world who have raped the US and world all over[/quote]more misuse of the word 'rape'. RAPE RAPE RAPE. banks rape. bankers rape.

does that make money the penis that is doing the raping itself?

[quote]Muslims do not control Wall Street[/quote]Ok? who has wall street suicide bombed recently?

[quote] Muslims do not attack Christian nations or any other and steal their resources[quote]

goddamn. really? steal? i'm wondering when our country will get paid back for any of the shit we've done to sort all the phaggots in the middle east. probably never. thanks for nothing.

[quote]Muslims are not the ones who are stockpiling WMD[/quote]pakistan shits in your general direction. as does iran. iraq. and ....i guess they would never stockpile if they could, and i'm sure they're never going to try.

[quote]and threatening other nations with them[/quote]the kurds weep in your general direction.

[quote]Muslims are not the ones bashing Jesus and all things Christian[/quote]Of course not. And why should i give a fuck? They just kill people and incite violence on anyone who makes a cartoon of mohammed. fucking grow up already, will ya?

ah, and infidels i assume does not mean anyone in particular.

[quote]Muslims are not the ones who control the whorish MSM[/quote]That's funny, because, like, the MSM is pretty much never going to describe a person as a 'muslim' unless they're praising the person. I don't recall the MSM ever calling Nidal Hasan a muslim (even though it's quite clear that's the case). Maybe the muslims DO control the MSM?

they actually do a pretty bang-up job defending you.

[quote]Muslims do not control the very sick and anti Islam, anti Christian thing they call Hollywood[/quote]nor do they control bollywood (i think). western infidel propoganda is not permitted for entertainment.

[quote]Muslims do not control and promote the US or world wide porn industry[/quote]pretty much true. I wonder why though. Maybe they're just too uptight? I'm quite certain they would never film gay porn though. For religious reasons, of course. (unless it was a snuff film?)

[quote]the Muslims do not control the US[/quote]right...

[quote] or world wide illicit drug industry[/quote]afghanistan gets high in your general direction. they do control a majority share in the suicide bombing industry as well as the stoning-adulterers industry. Minority share in the child-marriage industry.

[quote] Muslims do not control the US congress[/quote]well that's a good thing.

[quote] and it's treasonous and failed foreign affairs policies[/quote]exactly how much have you studied our form of government?

[quote]the Muslims did not lie openly to the American citizens and send their nation, armed forces into two unjust and unwinnable wars[/quote]we would have won them if we weren't such goddamn humanitarians or that we didn't want to offend muslims by entering baghdad. hearts and minds for the win/lose/draw.

aren't you kinda....glad that we didn't 'win' those wars?

[quote]the Muslims do not force the US tax payer to hand over their hard eared billions to a terrorist state who in turn uses that money to inflict even more pain and suffering of innocent men, woman and children[/quote]do muslims even do the whole foreign aid bit? what about humanitarian missions? charity work for non-muslims? anything?

did you just admit that it is muslims who are the ones inflicting pain and suffering on innocent men, women, and children. (we'll be seeing the M-W-C bit a lot here, i can tell)

[quote]the Muslims do not extort money from Christian nations[/quote]no, they do it to themselves.

[quote]the Muslims do control the UN or the IMF[/quote]oil for food scandal hungers in your general direction. i"m not sure about the IMF probably not, but again, so? they don't control NATO, either. and? they dont' even control the red-friggin cross brah.

[quote]the Muslims are not the responsible for the jobless, homeless and hopelessness of the citizens in the US and world all over[/quote]no, but they're responsible for the same in their own countries. i guess that's a draw.

[quote], the Muslims are not the ones raping third world nations[/quote]RAPE RAPE RAPE. they do like raping their own women though. (and i'm sure boys, but i'd have to look into that further). when you hide women, you're bound to become attracted to boys - a bit like the catholic clergy in a way no?

[quote]the Muslims are not kicking out Christian from their homes and replacing them with non Christians[/quote]no, the christians in the middle east are getting the fuck out on their own terms in fact.

and at least to your benefit, suicide bombing does not equal kicking out, a la egyptian coptic christians ....ad nauseum.

[quote]the Muslims are not the who on a daily basis is spying on America and it's citizens[/quote]because we're not interesting enough to spy on. that aside, yes, they spy on each other. are you that naive to say that muslims don't ever spy?

[quote] the Muslims are not the ones who are cheering for war with Iran[/quote]well no shit

(here's your sign)

[quote]the Muslims are not the ones calling for the nuclear option to be used on a nation which has never ever posed a threat to the US[/quote]and India?

[quote] the Muslims are not the ones burning Christian bibles[/quote]no, you're just destroying hindu shrines and stuff. :roll:

[quote]the Muslims do not force the whores of Washington take turns at grovelling shamelessly at the filthy feet of AIPAC[/quote]they also grovel at the feet of CAIR, too. it's a shame we recognize either to be honest.

[quote]the Muslims are not the ones who are stopping all the Christian traditions that once were had in the US[/quote]this is actually true. I agree.

[quote] the Muslims are not responsible for the trillion plus dollars spent on the "wars" in Iraq and Afghanistan[/quote]it would be nice if we could indemnify you for our services though.

[quote], the Muslims are not responsible for the deaths of over 1 million dead Iraqi men, woman and children[/quote]responsible? no. complicit? yes.

[quote]the Muslims are not responsible for the thousands of dead Afghani men, woman and children[quote]

no, but they could have done something about it.

did you mean to say, "you can't blame muslims for hosting an alqaeda party in our territory" right?

[quote] the Muslims were not responsible for the millions of Germans and Russians killed during WW2[/quote]we'll take the credit for the germans. the germans can take credit for the russians. and some of the russians can take credit for their own dead, too.

[quote]the Muslims did not drop atomic bombs on the innocent civilians of Japan[/quote]yeah, well, when you mess with the bull, be prepared to get the horns. we should have dropped those atomic bombs the day after pearl harbor to be quite honest.

[quote]the Muslims did not murder millions of Asians during the "Vietnam war" era[/quote]nope. you were too busy fucking around in the desert to be relevant to global politics. i guess some muslims did stand against the soviet empire. hat tip.

[quote]the Gulf Of Tonkin was not some sick delusional lie invented by the Muslims[/quote]see above.

[quote]the Muslims were not responsible for the attack on the USS liberty[/quote]friendly fire sucks. :( nothing is perfect in war. that's why we try to avoid it. with a show of force, if necessary.

i wonder what would happen to seoul if we pulled out of south korea tonight.

[quote] the Lavan Affair wasn't brought about by Muslims as was Operations Northwood[/quote]muslims dont' do false flag attacks. they do real flag attacks.

[quote]Muslims do not control nor do they have any influence the in US supreme court[/quote]do muslims even recognize the supreme court as a legitimate law-making body? we don't do shariah law here. for good reason.

[quote]Muslims are not trying to take away Americans right to bear arms[/quote]no, we have liberals and neocons to deal with.

[quote]Muslims are not in the business of stealing human body organs, parts[/quote]i'm not sure what you're getting at here.

[quote]Muslims do not control popular culture in the US or world[/quote]control? no. reject it? yes. you kinda touched upon this above. again, i'm not sure what this has to do with anything about the future threat islam poses to the freedoms of non-muslims. ( don't get me wrong, i want muslims to be free too - i just don't believe they'd accept what i propose)

[quote]the Muslims do not control the music of fashion industry[/quote]no. what does this have to do with the fall of the western civilization? nothing, actually.

[quote] the Muslims do not want to start WW3 nor do they speak of it[/quote]if everyone just converted to islam, it would be so much easier. they might not call it WW3 though.

[quote]the Muslims do not want to fight against Christians period[/quote]christians? no? really???? well, certainly jews and hindus.

at least i haven't heard (yet) an open call to convert my group (the atheist alliance)

[quote]the Muslims do not control the arms industry[/quote]you've found better means to exact violence though. cheaper too. they certainly don't mind buying however.

[quote]the Muslims are not responsible for demonizing African Americans in the US[/quote]where, pray tell, do the non-muslims blacks stand in the middle east?

[quote]the Muslims are not responsible for the American slave trade[/quote]nope. i guess muslims never owned slaves. ever.

[quote] the Muslims did not kill JFK[/quote]what next....muslims didn't kill jesus, either?

[quote]the Muslims do not use phosphorus gas on innocent civilians[/quote]no, they prefer to use human shields.

[quote]the Muslims do not built walls that divide nations[/quote]those egyptians are so open to the palestinians. yawn. walls exist to keep people out. not to keep people in. i wish my government knew to put up a big fuck-off wall on our country. even that wouldn't work a la that controversial radical muslim cleric that tried to sneak himself into our southern border in the trunk of a bimmer.

[quote]the Muslims do not rig US elections[/quote]they rig their own elections.

[quote]the Muslims are not responsible for the hole in the ozone layer or even climate change[/quote]bullshit. where is the green technology out in the middle east? where? anywhere? the middle east sells OIL that BURNS and kills babies.

lol.

first, the ozone layer hold is closing (you won't find it in a sura). man-made climate change is also a lie.

but yeah, c'mon son. you sell oil. ffs.

[quote]the Muslims are not invading Christian nations and leaving depleted uranium[/quote]yeah that sucks. so do IED's.

[quote], the Muslims are not invading Christian nations and raping, torturing their imprisoned men, woman and children,[/quote]RAPE RAPE RAPE.

already dealt with above.

[quote] the Muslims are not invading Christian nations and gang raping 14 year girls and then murdering their entire family in the hope of covering up their hideous crimes[/quote]you just pour acid on their faces, stone them to death, behead them, etc....

[quote] the Muslims are not letting pregnant woman die giving birth at checkpoints[/quote]you're so focused on narrow instances that you're missing the bigger picture.

"no muslims ever ....xyz.....therefore the notion that islam presents an existential threat to western civilization is untrue".

lettuce apply this:

"no muslim ever let a pregnant woman die giving birth at a checkpoint therefore the notion that islam presents an existential threat to western civilization is untrue."

of course, we all know that it was allah's will to kill her.

[quote]the Muslims are not bombing UN compounds[/quote]nah, but they like using UN trucks to transport weapons. and they like blowing up american barracks.

[quote] the Muslims are not invading or threatening nations from the South America[/quote]neither is anyone else really.

[quote]the Muslims are not kidnapping Christians and having them renditioned or sent to Guantanamo[/quote]that's because you don't normally see christians waging jihad against american soldiers out in bumblefuckistan. sample bias fail.

[quote]the Muslims are not flushing Christian bibles down the toilet[/quote]no. we atheist do that :)

we actually would do it to the koran but are afraid of physical violence.

[quote]the Muslims are not responsible for the dotcom bust[/quote].....:what

[quote]the Muslims are not in control of the Federal Reserve Bank[/quote]you're right. i agree.

[quote] Muslims are not in control of investment firms in the US[/quote]again......:what

[quote]Muslims are not responsible for the recent Gulf oil spill[/quote]nope. but responsible for one of the greatest environmental disasters on the planet. it wasn't an accident though. it was intentional.

[quote]the Muslims are not in control of the legal system in the US[/quote]that was covered with the supreme court above.

[quote]the Muslims are not in control of the Universities in the US[/quote]can universities be controlled? you use the word 'control' alot as if to assume that's how it should be.

[quote]the Muslims are not the ones manipulating Americans and dumbing their nation[/quote]at least we have room to be dumbed down though. :lol:

[quote] the Muslims are not enslaving the citizens of the world[/quote]you're repeating yourself again. you're raping repetition!

[quote] the Muslims do not call non Muslims animals and that their only meaningful existence in life is to serve them[/quote]of course not.

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[quote]Muslims do not call Jesus the son of a whore[/quote]ok? i guess calling mary magdelene a whore is one criteria with which to judge an existential threat to western civilization.

[quote]the Muslims are not responsible for the US spying on it's citizens[/quote]but for 9/11 the spying wouldn't exist. would it? hmmm

muslim's are not to blame for the invasive tsa procedures.

if a muslim snuck a bomb onto a plain in his anus and was caught, would you also assert that the new anal-probing of flight customers is not related to anything a muslim did? :roll:

[quote] the Muslims are not responsible for the TSA porno scans[/quote]see above.

[quote] the Muslims were not involved with Clinton getting his rod polished by Lewinski[/quote]yeah only lewinski was involved in sucking dick.

give yourself a pat on the back.......:lol:

[quote] the Muslims are not responsible for sending the US down the shitter[/quote]nope, but you're well on teh way to sending europe down the shitter. [/FONT][/SIZE]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][quote]Oh the memories. I could literally go on for days exposing who the real threat to all of mankind are[/quote]you really haven't done a good job to be frank.

[quote] but I won't[/quote]do you really think your allusions are not transparent? see my post up above.

[quote], it's more than enough for now.[/quote]thanks for sparing me the whole "muslims didn't kill michael jackson" and "muslims don't listen to Creed" and "muslims don't like tiesto" bits....

[quote]But I will finish my very short list with this[/quote]ok

[quote]the Muslims have never threatened to harm not even a single hair of any Chinese citizen in any way shape or form.[/quote][URL]http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/13/world/asia/13xinjiang.html[/URL]

[quote] China just like the rest of the world, know exactly who the real enemy is and it sure as hell isn’t the Muslims. [/quote][/SIZE][/FONT]oh right. did i say 'enemy'? i said existential threat to western civilization.

[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][quote]By all means, continue as you will with all the pro zionist lies[/quote]well i get daily zionist talking points, i have my zionist decoder (both ring and in my watch) a zionist merit badge, a zionist flag, a zionist x-ray glasses... i mean what ELSE am i suppposed to do with all of these gadgets?

[quote] and help those reading this, in understanding how delusional and completely out of touch with humanity or any sort of reality your kind really are. [/quote][/FONT][/SIZE] my kind? lol. what kind is that? oh right 'zee joooz'

speaking as an atheist, you're out of your goddamn mind. really, i'm not impressed. :(

@ Trick: Scared? No. Concerned? Greatly.

I don't really have a desire to see the rest of the modern world devolve into the likes of pakistan or iran. given the demographic trajectories, we could see this happening across europe in the next 150-225 years.

and you really can't 'undo' the problem without a radical change of policies. i think europe is 'kinda' waking up to this. 'kinda'.

Time is on my side.

Re: What is Going on in Egypt?

[QUOTE=88Mariner;924329]ah, Dig, "zee joooz". Psychobabble bullshit. It's typical though - I see it a lot. Anyone with the slightest kind words towards israel is an 'evil zionist'. it's a shame you wasted all of that time writing that though.

I could go through almost any of runningman's posts, replace the words "elite" "rich" "powerful" "globalists" "cabalists" "banksters" or "nwo" with the word 'jews' and be completely certain that Dig wrote it.

Dig's post, of course, ignores the unstoppable forces at work. Well, 'ignores' would be he recognizes the issue but ignores it anyways, and I don't think Dig has ever contemplated anything larger and more complex than newspaper headlines or tragically stupid quips from howard zinn.

Let me ask you something Dig: If I put 50 million mexicans into cairo, do you believe egyptian culture would last long there? If i put 50 million japanese into morocco, do you think moroccan culture would survive long or would it replaced with hello kitty nonsense over time? what if i put 50 million chinese into belgium? what do you honestly think will happen?

population x population growth x lack of assimilation x secessionist movements x time = islam is an existential threat to western civilization.

the demographic time bomb has been set. oddly enough, i blame the left-wing intelligentsia - many of who happen to be jooz (but let us be clear: left-wing 'jews' do not subscribed to anything jewish at all and are mostly atheist and...they're anti-zionists just like yourself!) for hindering the recognition of the demographic time bomb and the steps needed to disarm it. For, afterall, the law of unintended consequences is a law unknown in those circles. of course, the largest religious group on this planet, a religion that seems so protracted against western notions of freedom and individual liberty...could never...ever...be of any concern.

Ah yes, I should be the one believing that the middle east is a bastion of freedoms - to believe differently, to criticize openly, to speak freely. Just look at all the leaders out there, shouting how we need more individual freedom, less government. more property rights, less taxation. more responsibility, fewer entitlements. more freedoms...fewer restrictions. just look! all of them! there! somewhere. Well, i'm SURE they're there. somewhere.

It requires very little to see that where muslims dominate, they discriminate against other religions. where they're in the minority, they create seperatists groups demanding autonomy to permit them to live as if they were in tehran. And, with the growth in population of muslims in any particular place, the more open are they to more radical readings of the koran.

I'm sorry.

You're absolutely right, Dig.

Islam in no way poses any threat to western civilization.

Muslim population will never grow.

Muslims will stop immigrating to foreign countries.

Muslims will stop having an increasingly higher birth rate than the native citizenry.

Muslims will assuredly assimilate into dominant cultures across the globe. Insular muslim communities will phase out.

Muslim immigrants will treat non-muslims with mutuality, camaraderie, brotherhood, and equality.

Muslim immigrants will not demand a separate religious legal system apart from that of the laws governing the land they now live on.

The majority of muslims will put a leash on their minority hardliners. There will be no more apathy or indifference.

Muslims will eventually pick up the torch of freedom.

Muslims will never ostracize or threaten violence for those who leave or criticize their beliefs.

Muslims will modernize by diluting koranic scriptures.

Muslims will refuse to stand by the Caliphate.

Islam will be reformed to appease western expectancies.

Islam will soon have an internal war on faith in the name of reason, much like Voltaire qua christianity.

Time is on my side.[/QUOTE]

Only time will tell.

Re: What is Going on in Egypt?

[QUOTE=88Mariner;924391]yes. anyone who doesn't zuck mohammed's dick is a zionist. grow the fuck you phaggot.

SO, following, is a long-ass list of very specific incidents that Dig says "oh muslims never did this, therefore your assertion that islam is an existential threat to western civilization is not true".

unfortunately for him, he passes up an excellent opportunity to make serious points about the direction islam is headed, the direction the western world is headed, the concept of demographic shifts across our planet, and history in general.

but he does so and instead vindicates Islam by saying 'they didn't do x y or z" therefore I [i]must[/] be wrong.

i could just as well say that the Mexicans didn't start WW1, or rape (lol) resources from foreign countries or prevent a pregnant woman from dying while giving birth at a checkpoint....but that wouldn't give me any force in asserting that the mexican's had no special role in shaping the future of the united states.

anyways, i've decided to spend a short amount of time humouring myself.

[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Right. that's never happened. ever.

no. but they carry on his tradition. they would never try to finish what he started. ever.

the west instigated WW1? the west instigated WW2?

Muslims never ever started any conflict ever. ever.

Christian nation? where? you keep talking about christian nations as if it were Islam vs. Christianity.

You're close. It's Islam vs. Non-muslims.

more misuse of the word 'rape'. RAPE RAPE RAPE. banks rape. bankers rape.

does that make money the penis that is doing the raping itself?

Ok? who has wall street suicide bombed recently?

[quote] Muslims do not attack Christian nations or any other and steal their resources[quote]

goddamn. really? steal? i'm wondering when our country will get paid back for any of the shit we've done to sort all the phaggots in the middle east. probably never. thanks for nothing.

pakistan shits in your general direction. as does iran. iraq. and ....i guess they would never stockpile if they could, and i'm sure they're never going to try.

the kurds weep in your general direction.

Of course not. And why should i give a fuck? They just kill people and incite violence on anyone who makes a cartoon of mohammed. fucking grow up already, will ya?

ah, and infidels i assume does not mean anyone in particular.

That's funny, because, like, the MSM is pretty much never going to describe a person as a 'muslim' unless they're praising the person. I don't recall the MSM ever calling Nidal Hasan a muslim (even though it's quite clear that's the case). Maybe the muslims DO control the MSM?

they actually do a pretty bang-up job defending you.

nor do they control bollywood (i think). western infidel propoganda is not permitted for entertainment.

pretty much true. I wonder why though. Maybe they're just too uptight? I'm quite certain they would never film gay porn though. For religious reasons, of course. (unless it was a snuff film?)

right...

afghanistan gets high in your general direction. they do control a majority share in the suicide bombing industry as well as the stoning-adulterers industry. Minority share in the child-marriage industry.

well that's a good thing.

exactly how much have you studied our form of government?

we would have won them if we weren't such goddamn humanitarians or that we didn't want to offend muslims by entering baghdad. hearts and minds for the win/lose/draw.

aren't you kinda....glad that we didn't 'win' those wars?

do muslims even do the whole foreign aid bit? what about humanitarian missions? charity work for non-muslims? anything?

did you just admit that it is muslims who are the ones inflicting pain and suffering on innocent men, women, and children. (we'll be seeing the M-W-C bit a lot here, i can tell)

no, they do it to themselves.

oil for food scandal hungers in your general direction. i"m not sure about the IMF probably not, but again, so? they don't control NATO, either. and? they dont' even control the red-friggin cross brah.

no, but they're responsible for the same in their own countries. i guess that's a draw.

RAPE RAPE RAPE. they do like raping their own women though. (and i'm sure boys, but i'd have to look into that further). when you hide women, you're bound to become attracted to boys - a bit like the catholic clergy in a way no?

no, the christians in the middle east are getting the fuck out on their own terms in fact.

and at least to your benefit, suicide bombing does not equal kicking out, a la egyptian coptic christians ....ad nauseum.

because we're not interesting enough to spy on. that aside, yes, they spy on each other. are you that naive to say that muslims don't ever spy?

well no shit

(here's your sign)

and India?

no, you're just destroying hindu shrines and stuff. :roll:

they also grovel at the feet of CAIR, too. it's a shame we recognize either to be honest.

this is actually true. I agree.

it would be nice if we could indemnify you for our services though.

responsible? no. complicit? yes.

[quote]the Muslims are not responsible for the thousands of dead Afghani men, woman and children[quote]

no, but they could have done something about it.

did you mean to say, "you can't blame muslims for hosting an alqaeda party in our territory" right?

we'll take the credit for the germans. the germans can take credit for the russians. and some of the russians can take credit for their own dead, too.

yeah, well, when you mess with the bull, be prepared to get the horns. we should have dropped those atomic bombs the day after pearl harbor to be quite honest.

nope. you were too busy fucking around in the desert to be relevant to global politics. i guess some muslims did stand against the soviet empire. hat tip.

see above.

friendly fire sucks. :( nothing is perfect in war. that's why we try to avoid it. with a show of force, if necessary.

i wonder what would happen to seoul if we pulled out of south korea tonight.

muslims dont' do false flag attacks. they do real flag attacks.

do muslims even recognize the supreme court as a legitimate law-making body? we don't do shariah law here. for good reason.

no, we have liberals and neocons to deal with.

i'm not sure what you're getting at here.

control? no. reject it? yes. you kinda touched upon this above. again, i'm not sure what this has to do with anything about the future threat islam poses to the freedoms of non-muslims. ( don't get me wrong, i want muslims to be free too - i just don't believe they'd accept what i propose)

no. what does this have to do with the fall of the western civilization? nothing, actually.

if everyone just converted to islam, it would be so much easier. they might not call it WW3 though.

christians? no? really???? well, certainly jews and hindus.

at least i haven't heard (yet) an open call to convert my group (the atheist alliance)

you've found better means to exact violence though. cheaper too. they certainly don't mind buying however.

where, pray tell, do the non-muslims blacks stand in the middle east?

nope. i guess muslims never owned slaves. ever.

what next....muslims didn't kill jesus, either?

no, they prefer to use human shields.

those egyptians are so open to the palestinians. yawn. walls exist to keep people out. not to keep people in. i wish my government knew to put up a big fuck-off wall on our country. even that wouldn't work a la that controversial radical muslim cleric that tried to sneak himself into our southern border in the trunk of a bimmer.

they rig their own elections.

bullshit. where is the green technology out in the middle east? where? anywhere? the middle east sells OIL that BURNS and kills babies.

lol.

first, the ozone layer hold is closing (you won't find it in a sura). man-made climate change is also a lie.

but yeah, c'mon son. you sell oil. ffs.

yeah that sucks. so do IED's.

RAPE RAPE RAPE.

already dealt with above.

you just pour acid on their faces, stone them to death, behead them, etc....

you're so focused on narrow instances that you're missing the bigger picture.

"no muslims ever ....xyz.....therefore the notion that islam presents an existential threat to western civilization is untrue".

lettuce apply this:

"no muslim ever let a pregnant woman die giving birth at a checkpoint therefore the notion that islam presents an existential threat to western civilization is untrue."

of course, we all know that it was allah's will to kill her.

nah, but they like using UN trucks to transport weapons. and they like blowing up american barracks.

neither is anyone else really.

that's because you don't normally see christians waging jihad against american soldiers out in bumblefuckistan. sample bias fail.

no. we atheist do that :)

we actually would do it to the koran but are afraid of physical violence.

.....:what

you're right. i agree.

again......:what

nope. but responsible for one of the greatest environmental disasters on the planet. it wasn't an accident though. it was intentional.

that was covered with the supreme court above.

can universities be controlled? you use the word 'control' alot as if to assume that's how it should be.

at least we have room to be dumbed down though. :lol:

you're repeating yourself again. you're raping repetition!

of course not.

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ok? i guess calling mary magdelene a whore is one criteria with which to judge an existential threat to western civilization.

but for 9/11 the spying wouldn't exist. would it? hmmm

muslim's are not to blame for the invasive tsa procedures.

if a muslim snuck a bomb onto a plain in his anus and was caught, would you also assert that the new anal-probing of flight customers is not related to anything a muslim did? :roll:

see above.

yeah only lewinski was involved in sucking dick.

give yourself a pat on the back.......:lol:

nope, but you're well on teh way to sending europe down the shitter. [/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]you really haven't done a good job to be frank.

do you really think your allusions are not transparent? see my post up above.

thanks for sparing me the whole "muslims didn't kill michael jackson" and "muslims don't listen to Creed" and "muslims don't like tiesto" bits....

ok

[URL]http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/13/world/asia/13xinjiang.html[/URL]

[/SIZE][/FONT]oh right. did i say 'enemy'? i said existential threat to western civilization.

[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]well i get daily zionist talking points, i have my zionist decoder (both ring and in my watch) a zionist merit badge, a zionist flag, a zionist x-ray glasses... i mean what ELSE am i suppposed to do with all of these gadgets?

[/FONT][/SIZE] my kind? lol. what kind is that? oh right 'zee joooz'

speaking as an atheist, you're out of your goddamn mind. really, i'm not impressed. :(

@ Trick: Scared? No. Concerned? Greatly.

I don't really have a desire to see the rest of the modern world devolve into the likes of pakistan or iran. given the demographic trajectories, we could see this happening across europe in the next 150-225 years.

and you really can't 'undo' the problem without a radical change of policies. i think europe is 'kinda' waking up to this. 'kinda'.

Time is on my side.[/QUOTE]

Time will tell.

Re: What is Going on in Egypt?

[QUOTE=88Mariner;924391]yes. anyone who doesn't zuck mohammed's dick is a zionist. grow the fuck you phaggot.

SO, following, is a long-ass list of very specific incidents that Dig says "oh muslims never did this, therefore your assertion that islam is an existential threat to western civilization is not true".

unfortunately for him, he passes up an excellent opportunity to make serious points about the direction islam is headed, the direction the western world is headed, the concept of demographic shifts across our planet, and history in general.

but he does so and instead vindicates Islam by saying 'they didn't do x y or z" therefore I [i]must[/] be wrong.

i could just as well say that the Mexicans didn't start WW1, or rape (lol) resources from foreign countries or prevent a pregnant woman from dying while giving birth at a checkpoint....but that wouldn't give me any force in asserting that the mexican's had no special role in shaping the future of the united states.

anyways, i've decided to spend a short amount of time humouring myself.

[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Right. that's never happened. ever.

no. but they carry on his tradition. they would never try to finish what he started. ever.

the west instigated WW1? the west instigated WW2?

Muslims never ever started any conflict ever. ever.

Christian nation? where? you keep talking about christian nations as if it were Islam vs. Christianity.

You're close. It's Islam vs. Non-muslims.

more misuse of the word 'rape'. RAPE RAPE RAPE. banks rape. bankers rape.

does that make money the penis that is doing the raping itself?

Ok? who has wall street suicide bombed recently?

[quote] Muslims do not attack Christian nations or any other and steal their resources[quote]

goddamn. really? steal? i'm wondering when our country will get paid back for any of the shit we've done to sort all the phaggots in the middle east. probably never. thanks for nothing.

pakistan shits in your general direction. as does iran. iraq. and ....i guess they would never stockpile if they could, and i'm sure they're never going to try.

the kurds weep in your general direction.

Of course not. And why should i give a fuck? They just kill people and incite violence on anyone who makes a cartoon of mohammed. fucking grow up already, will ya?

ah, and infidels i assume does not mean anyone in particular.

That's funny, because, like, the MSM is pretty much never going to describe a person as a 'muslim' unless they're praising the person. I don't recall the MSM ever calling Nidal Hasan a muslim (even though it's quite clear that's the case). Maybe the muslims DO control the MSM?

they actually do a pretty bang-up job defending you.

nor do they control bollywood (i think). western infidel propoganda is not permitted for entertainment.

pretty much true. I wonder why though. Maybe they're just too uptight? I'm quite certain they would never film gay porn though. For religious reasons, of course. (unless it was a snuff film?)

right...

afghanistan gets high in your general direction. they do control a majority share in the suicide bombing industry as well as the stoning-adulterers industry. Minority share in the child-marriage industry.

well that's a good thing.

exactly how much have you studied our form of government?

we would have won them if we weren't such goddamn humanitarians or that we didn't want to offend muslims by entering baghdad. hearts and minds for the win/lose/draw.

aren't you kinda....glad that we didn't 'win' those wars?

do muslims even do the whole foreign aid bit? what about humanitarian missions? charity work for non-muslims? anything?

did you just admit that it is muslims who are the ones inflicting pain and suffering on innocent men, women, and children. (we'll be seeing the M-W-C bit a lot here, i can tell)

no, they do it to themselves.

oil for food scandal hungers in your general direction. i"m not sure about the IMF probably not, but again, so? they don't control NATO, either. and? they dont' even control the red-friggin cross brah.

no, but they're responsible for the same in their own countries. i guess that's a draw.

RAPE RAPE RAPE. they do like raping their own women though. (and i'm sure boys, but i'd have to look into that further). when you hide women, you're bound to become attracted to boys - a bit like the catholic clergy in a way no?

no, the christians in the middle east are getting the fuck out on their own terms in fact.

and at least to your benefit, suicide bombing does not equal kicking out, a la egyptian coptic christians ....ad nauseum.

because we're not interesting enough to spy on. that aside, yes, they spy on each other. are you that naive to say that muslims don't ever spy?

well no shit

(here's your sign)

and India?

no, you're just destroying hindu shrines and stuff. :roll:

they also grovel at the feet of CAIR, too. it's a shame we recognize either to be honest.

this is actually true. I agree.

it would be nice if we could indemnify you for our services though.

responsible? no. complicit? yes.

[quote]the Muslims are not responsible for the thousands of dead Afghani men, woman and children[quote]

no, but they could have done something about it.

did you mean to say, "you can't blame muslims for hosting an alqaeda party in our territory" right?

we'll take the credit for the germans. the germans can take credit for the russians. and some of the russians can take credit for their own dead, too.

yeah, well, when you mess with the bull, be prepared to get the horns. we should have dropped those atomic bombs the day after pearl harbor to be quite honest.

nope. you were too busy fucking around in the desert to be relevant to global politics. i guess some muslims did stand against the soviet empire. hat tip.

see above.

friendly fire sucks. :( nothing is perfect in war. that's why we try to avoid it. with a show of force, if necessary.

i wonder what would happen to seoul if we pulled out of south korea tonight.

muslims dont' do false flag attacks. they do real flag attacks.

do muslims even recognize the supreme court as a legitimate law-making body? we don't do shariah law here. for good reason.

no, we have liberals and neocons to deal with.

i'm not sure what you're getting at here.

control? no. reject it? yes. you kinda touched upon this above. again, i'm not sure what this has to do with anything about the future threat islam poses to the freedoms of non-muslims. ( don't get me wrong, i want muslims to be free too - i just don't believe they'd accept what i propose)

no. what does this have to do with the fall of the western civilization? nothing, actually.

if everyone just converted to islam, it would be so much easier. they might not call it WW3 though.

christians? no? really???? well, certainly jews and hindus.

at least i haven't heard (yet) an open call to convert my group (the atheist alliance)

you've found better means to exact violence though. cheaper too. they certainly don't mind buying however.

where, pray tell, do the non-muslims blacks stand in the middle east?

nope. i guess muslims never owned slaves. ever.

what next....muslims didn't kill jesus, either?

no, they prefer to use human shields.

those egyptians are so open to the palestinians. yawn. walls exist to keep people out. not to keep people in. i wish my government knew to put up a big fuck-off wall on our country. even that wouldn't work a la that controversial radical muslim cleric that tried to sneak himself into our southern border in the trunk of a bimmer.

they rig their own elections.

bullshit. where is the green technology out in the middle east? where? anywhere? the middle east sells OIL that BURNS and kills babies.

lol.

first, the ozone layer hold is closing (you won't find it in a sura). man-made climate change is also a lie.

but yeah, c'mon son. you sell oil. ffs.

yeah that sucks. so do IED's.

RAPE RAPE RAPE.

already dealt with above.

you just pour acid on their faces, stone them to death, behead them, etc....

you're so focused on narrow instances that you're missing the bigger picture.

"no muslims ever ....xyz.....therefore the notion that islam presents an existential threat to western civilization is untrue".

lettuce apply this:

"no muslim ever let a pregnant woman die giving birth at a checkpoint therefore the notion that islam presents an existential threat to western civilization is untrue."

of course, we all know that it was allah's will to kill her.

nah, but they like using UN trucks to transport weapons. and they like blowing up american barracks.

neither is anyone else really.

that's because you don't normally see christians waging jihad against american soldiers out in bumblefuckistan. sample bias fail.

no. we atheist do that :)

we actually would do it to the koran but are afraid of physical violence.

.....:what

you're right. i agree.

again......:what

nope. but responsible for one of the greatest environmental disasters on the planet. it wasn't an accident though. it was intentional.

that was covered with the supreme court above.

can universities be controlled? you use the word 'control' alot as if to assume that's how it should be.

at least we have room to be dumbed down though. :lol:

you're repeating yourself again. you're raping repetition!

of course not.

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ok? i guess calling mary magdelene a whore is one criteria with which to judge an existential threat to western civilization.

but for 9/11 the spying wouldn't exist. would it? hmmm

muslim's are not to blame for the invasive tsa procedures.

if a muslim snuck a bomb onto a plain in his anus and was caught, would you also assert that the new anal-probing of flight customers is not related to anything a muslim did? :roll:

see above.

yeah only lewinski was involved in sucking dick.

give yourself a pat on the back.......:lol:

nope, but you're well on teh way to sending europe down the shitter. [/FONT][/SIZE]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]you really haven't done a good job to be frank.

do you really think your allusions are not transparent? see my post up above.

thanks for sparing me the whole "muslims didn't kill michael jackson" and "muslims don't listen to Creed" and "muslims don't like tiesto" bits....

ok

[URL]http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/13/world/asia/13xinjiang.html[/URL]

[/SIZE][/FONT]oh right. did i say 'enemy'? i said existential threat to western civilization.

[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]well i get daily zionist talking points, i have my zionist decoder (both ring and in my watch) a zionist merit badge, a zionist flag, a zionist x-ray glasses... i mean what ELSE am i suppposed to do with all of these gadgets?

[/FONT][/SIZE] my kind? lol. what kind is that? oh right 'zee joooz'

speaking as an atheist, you're out of your goddamn mind. really, i'm not impressed. :(

@ Trick: Scared? No. Concerned? Greatly.

I don't really have a desire to see the rest of the modern world devolve into the likes of pakistan or iran. given the demographic trajectories, we could see this happening across europe in the next 150-225 years.

and you really can't 'undo' the problem without a radical change of policies. i think europe is 'kinda' waking up to this. 'kinda'.

Time is on my side.[/QUOTE] No it's obviously too late for you! I read your posts and my stomach turns. Vitriolic , delusional , contradictory, bullying, absolutely horrifying .

Re: What is Going on in Egypt?

[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]let me return to this particular quip:

[quote]Muslims do not control and promote the US or world wide porn industry[/quote]

[url]http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.fae0da60412a671e262f1f5567c43dbb.871&show_article=1[/url]

ouch. [/FONT][/SIZE]

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Oh yes, you got me there.

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constant update stream

[url]http://live.reuters.com/Event/Unrest_in_Egypt[/url]

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The horror, The horror...

[QUOTE]Monday, Jan. 31, 2011 What the U.S. Loses if Mubarak Goes By Tony Karon The revolt that appears to have fatally undermined President Hosni Mubarak's prospects for remaining in power is a domestic affair — Egyptians have taken to the streets to demand change because of economic despair and political tyranny, not the regime's close relationship with Israel and the U.S. But having tolerated and abetted Mubarak's repressive rule for three decades precisely because of his utility to U.S. strategy on issues ranging from Israel to Iran, Washington could be deprived of a key Arab ally with his fall from power.

"The birth pangs of a new Middle East" was then Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice's description of the bombs falling on Beirut in 2006 as Israel and Hizballah traded blows in an inconclusive war, but her words more aptly describe the convulsions currently shaking Egypt. Rice's vision of an alliance of Israeli and Arab autocrats crushing Iran, Syria, Hamas and Hizballah proved to be a chimera, but Mubarak's ouster could change the regional order in ways quite at odds with that vision. (See how Egyptians view President Obama during their time of turmoil.)

The situation in Egypt remains dangerously fluid, its outcome still difficult to predict. But even if the duration and terms of the inevitable transition are unknown, five days of dramatic street demonstrations have effectively called time on the strongman's 30-year rule. Even the Obama Administration appears to be distancing itself from a leader that Washington has long hailed as a pillar of regional stability. The White House has stopped short of demanding that Mubarak resign, but it has called for "an orderly transition" to "a democratic participatory government," and for Egypt's U.S.-funded security forces to refrain from violence against protesters. Heeding those calls would effectively consign Mubarak to political oblivion. And even if he tried to fight his way out of the crisis, the autocrat's ability to serve as a bastion of stability would be fatally compromised. In the space of less than a week, a central pillar of U.S. regional strategy has become an untenable ruler.

The man most likely to replace Mubarak if the political process is thrown open looks to be Mohamed ElBaradei, the Nobel Peace Prize–winning former nuclear inspector who has been endorsed as a presidential candidate by the country's smaller secular parties and, importantly, by the Muslim Brotherhood, Egypt's largest opposition party. ElBaradei is a moderate and a democrat, but he doesn't share Washington's allergy to Islamist parties and has publicly questioned the Obama Administration's strategy on Iran's nuclear program.

Curiously enough, years before the current turmoil, Washington was warned that it could expect a difficult transition after Mubarak, even if his succession were handled within the regime. "Whoever Egypt's next president is, he will inevitably be politically weaker than Mubarak," reads a remarkably prescient May 2007 cable from the U.S. embassy in Cairo that was released late last year by WikiLeaks. "Among his first priorities will be to cement his position and build popular support. We can thus anticipate that the new president may sound an initial anti-American tone in his public rhetoric in an effort to prove his nationalist bona fides to the Egyptian street." (See TIME's video "Tahrir Square: The Epicenter of Cairo's Protests.)

The cable also warns that any new President will have to bolster his support by reconciling with the banned Muslim Brotherhood. If all of this was true for what was then anticipated to be an in-house transition, it may be even more so now that the citizenry has demanded a say in the matter. It's not that the rebellion is being fueled by anti-Americanism or radical Islamist sentiments; it's a protest driven by the Egyptians' economic and political needs. The U.S. is viewed with hostility among the demonstrators first and foremost because of its longtime support for a tyrannical regime.

The Muslim Brotherhood may be in the "radical" column of Rice's schema, but Egypt's democracy movement doesn't see the party that way. "The Muslim Brotherhood has nothing to do with the Iranian movement, has nothing to do with extremism as we have seen it in Afghanistan and other places," ElBaradei said over the weekend. He called the Brotherhood a conservative group that favors secular democracy and human rights and said that as an integral part of Egyptian society, it would have a place in any inclusive political process. (See "Is There an ElBaradei Solution?")

Israel has looked on aghast as its most important friend in the region tumbles — with the U.S. doing little to save him. On Sunday, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reportedly reached out to Washington and European capitals to urge them to ease off on criticism of the Egyptian leader, whose ouster would bring instability to the wider region. It's highly unlikely that any new Egyptian government would go to war with Israel, but an administration more responsive to its own citizenry than Mubarak would almost certainly cool relations. Mubarak's role as the go-to guy when the U.S. and Israel want to pressure the Palestinians into new talks, for example, is unlikely to be reprised by a successor. Nor can Israel count on Egypt's continued cooperation in imposing an economic siege on Gaza, which is aimed at unseating the territory's Hamas rulers.

If Israel is alarmed, so is Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, who on Saturday phoned Mubarak to express his solidarity and whose security forces blocked demonstrations in support of the Egyptian protests. Mubarak has been an important source of political cover for Abbas in his dealings with Israel and the U.S., and has kept the pressure on Hamas in Gaza. And the Palestinian leader, who presides over a less-than-democratic administration, can't be thrilled by the Egyptians' example to Palestinians of the power of mass protest.

None of the region's moderate autocrats can be particularly reassured by the Obama Administration's perceived willingness to wave goodbye to an Egyptian autocrat whose 30 years of service to U.S. regional agendas had the likes of Vice President Joe Biden just last week reiterating how important Mubarak's contribution had been. (Comment on this story.)

Syria and Iran, of course, are celebrating the travails of one of their fiercest Arab antagonists — even if the type of popular rebellion that has rocked Mubarak could at some point come to the streets of Damascus and Tehran. Indeed, the Egyptian rebellion may stand as the ultimate negation of the Bush Administration's "moderates vs. radicals" approach to the region: Mubarak's ouster might be a loss for the moderate camp, but it won't necessarily translate into a gain for the radicals. Instead, it marks a new assertiveness by an Arab public looking to take charge of its own affairs, rather than have them determined by international power struggles. Even that, however, suggests turbulent times ahead for American Middle East policies that have little support on Egypt's streets. [URL="http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2045248,00.html"]http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2045248,00.html[/URL][/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=runningman;923784]how can the US support a dictator like this?[/QUOTE]

Why do we have anything to do with it? Egypt isn't a US state

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[QUOTE=picklemonkey;924588]Why do we have anything to do with it? Egypt isn't a US state[/QUOTE]

The US government give the Egyptian government 1.3 billion a year in military aid every year. sounds like support to me. They could have bought some decent CCTV for the Pentagon with that money

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the uprising is because Egypt wants the US OUT!!. The whole arab world wants the US out.

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^They want their leader out jackass, not the US.

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ya a leader that cow-tows to the US.. that is why Biden piped up in support

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A little bit of background on Omar Suleiman

[URL]http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/02/01/the-torture-career-of-egypts-new-soon-to-be-ex-vice-president/[/URL]

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[QUOTE=runningman;924592]the uprising is because Egypt wants the US OUT!!. The whole arab world wants the US out.[/QUOTE]

huh?

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[URL]http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/11439[/URL]

Update on Egypt with Tarek Masoud of Harvard Kennedy School, Fouad Ajami of Johns Hopkins University, Emad Shahin, Anthony Shadid of 'The New York Times' & Neil MacFarquhar of 'The New York Times'

Most recent:

[URL]http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/11440[/URL]

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[video=youtube;D2NAjwmM_jM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2NAjwmM_jM&feature=player_embedded[/video]

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Why is it so hard to believe that the US has "agents" in other countries?

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Its going to be very embarrassing if them US tanks open fire on anyone tomorrow.

[url]http://blogs.channel4.com/snowblog/egypt-reaping-west-sown/14596[/url]

[QUOTE]So we have witnessed the Egyptian army with American-supplied hardware and training so far failing to act decisively to protect peaceful protesters. What an end to this soiled ‘Western’ support for Mubarak. The scales are falling from many eyes one week into this insurrection. Here for assorted mainly non-Egyptian reasons is the sorry tale of a client state. A state where a corrupt autocrat became preferred to the vision he conjured of the extreme alternative that awaited any decision to allow the Egyptian people to decide. How convenient too, that this favoured autocrat not only sanctioned torture in his own land but was willing to undertake it for Britain and the United States when invited to do so. Some here have told me that domestic torture surged courtesy of the blessing bestowed upon it by Coalition forces in Iraq and Afghanistan. We reap what we sow.[/QUOTE]