Re: MSNBC Chris Matthews Calls Anti - Obama People Crackers

[QUOTE=88Mariner;920980]i would be satisfied with a stool sample. [/quote]

:lol: well played sir

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;920982]:lol: well played sir[/QUOTE]

come to think of it, that would be difficult to acquire. from my reading on the subject of presidential poops, the secret service is in charge of collecting his urine and poops on overseas trips to prohibit anyone from acquiring his dna. true story. also a brool story. and quite possibly a stool brory.

co.

disregard stool sample, acquire used ciggy?

Re: MSNBC Chris Matthews Calls Anti - Obama People Crackers

[QUOTE=res0nat0r;920966]massive lulz. let me translate this:

'settle this once and for all' aka: he was just elected guvnuh last month. aka: he was never consulted when obama was elected to be the guy behind the guy behind the guy to verify our president isn't a damn dirty foreigner, BECAUSE HE WAS JUST ELECTED LAST MONTH. so now that he has a chance to help squash total stupidity, he is going to chip in with his $.02.

[URL]http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2011/01/19/2011-01-19_record_of_obamas_birth_is_in_the_archives_hawaii_gov.html[/URL]

fun snippets from above, based on the first google news hit i get for 'hawaii obama governor', published today:

fail.com[/QUOTE] Sorry, homey, it doesn't square with the narrative that started way back in '08...from former official claims regarding the existence of a valid BC to only a "recording of his birth." We mysteriously jumped from point A to C, but we be crazy idiots for giving a damn about these inconsistencies.

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[QUOTE=ddr;920958]Is that all you can do is insult me? What are you 5?

Please tell me when in our American history has the public EVER de-ligitimized a President thinking he was not born here? Name them please.

This is exactly why I never set foot in this fucking Politics thread because all you jerkoff's do is insult people who don't see things YOUR way. Fucking elementary.[/QUOTE]

i'm just wondering....why do you hate black people? a black man challenged Obama's nbc legitimacy. so to spit ignorance at a black man, to me, is racist. there's no need for that here bro.

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[QUOTE=vinnie97;921034]Sorry, homey, it doesn't square with the narrative that started way back in '08...from former official claims regarding the existence of a valid BC to only a "recording of his birth." We mysteriously jumped from point A to C, but we be crazy idiots for giving a damn about these inconsistencies.[/QUOTE]

it does. he was elected. please focus back on 9/11 being an inside job now.

Example: Idiots still preach we didn't land on the moon. Doesn't change the fact that it did happen.

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Cool, the results of an election are more important than the constitutional implications of someone who forged/modified his records to "prove" eligibility for office. Only in dumbed down Amerika or another similar banana republic would that be the case.

Can't believe I found an entire thread dedicated to this topic @ Hannity.com (since he's with Fox and mainstream outlets do their damndest to avoid this topic like the plague, akin to how they address the truther movement), but [URL="http://forums.hannity.com/showpost.php?p=85660721&postcount=30233"]here it is[/URL]:

[quote]...Let's review what is generally known to be true:

[LIST] []There's no proof an original long form birth certificate was ever filed at the time of Obama's birth []A birth was registered, but with several details unknown - MAYBE matching some of the details on the forged COLB, but not enough to legally prove facts of birth []A registered birth would have been enough to prompt an announcement in the newspapers, even if not sufficient to produce a LFBC []Obama was probably adopted at age 4 and became Soebarkah "Barry" Soetoro, Indonesian citizen, and probably then had an Indonesian birth certificate []When Barak Sr. returned to Hawaii in 1971, it was to help annul the adoption and complete or sign off on any incomplete paperwork regarding Barry's birth in Hawaii []Barry traveled on his mother's passport until she removed Soebarkah from it in 1968 []In Hawaii, Barry either legally or illegally resumed using the name Barack Hussein Obama II []In 2006, Obama decided to run for president and realized he didn't have a legal U.S. birth certificate, so he filed to "complete" the birth certificate that year []In June 2007, he requested a birth certificate and received a COLB that indicated details he did NOT want released to the public []In February or March 2008, he forged or illegally modified the COLB with a number not belonging to him []On June 12, 2008, the jpg of the alleged COLB was posted and distributed to select media and partisan cohorts []Summer 2008, HI DOH is deluged with requests for a real birth certificate and/or verification of the alleged COLB (they were caught by surprise) []In August 2008, factlack dot org publishes a piece online with photos of the alleged COLB, yet the EXIF data reveals the photos were taken in March 2008. factlack scrubs the EXIF data to hide that they may have assisted in the creation of a forged/illegally modified COLB. []In October 2008, Chiyome Fukino discovers no birth certificate from 1961 and carefully crafts statement to call the delayed certificate an "original birth certificate" []In July 2009, Fukino releases a second statement the same day the House passes a resolution for Hawaii's 50th birthday and inserts statement saying Obama was born in Hawaii. Fukino cites this statement as well as the delayed certificate as "original vital records" in claiming Obama was born in Hawaii []New governor of Hawaii announces he can only find handwritten birth index but not an actual LFBC [/LIST]

Problems exposing the lack of a 1961 LFBC: [LIST] []Obama refuses to release a 1961 LFBC. []Fukino's mentions an "original birth certificate" in October 2008, but changes verbiage to "original vital records" in July 2009 in order to claim Obama was born in Hawaii. The only document needed for such a claim is a legal birth certificate. The only reason to change the verbiage is if the BC is insufficient to prove the place of birth. []DOH answers UIPA requests from skeptics that reveal an amendment was made to the birth records. They deny access to copies of the records. If no such documentation of an amendment existed, they would have legally had to say so. []Certificate number on factlack dot org photos out of sequence with Nordyke twins. Statement by DOH and date of newspaper announcements affirm this is not possible, thus a clue there is no original birth certificate for Obama. The certificate number most likely belongs to a child who was deceased shortly after birth. []DOH goes out of its way to avoid releasing index data related to the certificate number. If it was legit, the DOH could have legally confirmed it. []OIP spokesperson affirms that the DOH released a copy of the seal that is supposed to be on Obama's actual BC. The seal on the COLB does not match it. [/LIST]

What am I missing? This adds up. A handwritten index registering the birth could be enough for an annoucement in the newspaper but not enough to get a real LFBC. Obviously something was missing that was needed to fully register the birth. Obama may have filed that information in 2006 (or some other time), but it resulted in a delayed certificate, not an official LFBC and thus not a legal COLB. None of this means Obama was not born in Hawaii, only that he cannot legally prove it, and that he has pulled a scam to fool people into thinking he has a fully legal certificate, except that Hawaii won't and/or can't back him up with documented proof.[/quote]

So yea, the more the mainstream paints truth seekers as one step away from the insane asylum, the more traction the movement gets.

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its ok you dont think he is whitey americana enough to be prez and are going to do whatever to try and keep perpetuating this nonsense. fact is it is only going to be ever relegated to a select group of dummies, and this chat in fact hurts the office of the pres (note i didnt say obama, i said the office of the president), more than it helps.

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All some of you lefties see is RACISM because your masters have skillfully affixed those blinders to your heads with their ever-present indoctrination and painting of dissent and opposition as such. No, I think a Pres should be fully vetted as constitutionally eligible before assuming the role. The constitution is more important than the occupier in the oval office.

That includes McCain. The Repubs refused to press the issue since the Dems willingly relinquished the prospect of eligibility regarding McCain and his Panama Canal birth (aside from the fact both of his parents were US citizens and of legal age). I would have preferred a delayed election versus one for two ineligible candidates.

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[QUOTE=vinnie97;921090]. No, I think a Pres should be fully vetted as constitutionally eligible before assuming the role. The constitution is more important than the occupier in the oval office. .[/QUOTE]

He was. He did. Hence he was sworn in. For the 100th time.

Game over.

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A forged COLB and a newspaper announcement do not meet the threshold of proof we "crazies" are seeking.

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[QUOTE=vinnie97;921103]A forged COLB and a newspaper announcement do not meet the threshold of proof we "crazies" are seeking.[/QUOTE]

It was good enough for the Electoral College. Maybe a government overthrow is in order to fix the entire process?

You. Are. Shit. Outta. Luck.

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Electoral College - - You mean Corruption College right?

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[QUOTE=runningman;921128]Electoral College - - You mean Corruption College right?[/QUOTE]

Of course. It is related to the US, so it must be totally fucked and wrong, evil, immoral, communist, satanist, etc.

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No but lately it has been fucked and wrong hasn't it?

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;921130]Of course. It is related to the US, so it must be totally fucked and wrong, evil, immoral, communist, satanist, etc.[/QUOTE]

lol funny how you bunch communist with Satanist lol talk about brainwashed...

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[QUOTE=Shpira;921245]lol funny how you bunch communist with Satanist lol talk about brainwashed...[/QUOTE]

lol funny how you misunderstand my point above talk about confused...

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someone 'splain this to me:

[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1348916/Hawaii-governor-says-Obamas-birth-record-exists-produce-it.html#ixzz1BakJm5SA[/url]

[QUOTE]Pressure was mounting on Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombie today amid increasing confusion over whether President Obama was born there. Abercrombie said on Tuesday that an investigation had unearthed papers proving Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961. He told Honolulu's Star-Advertiser: 'It actually exists in the archives, written down,' he said. [B]But it became apparent that what had been discovered was an unspecified listing or notation of Obama's birth that someone had made in the state archives and not a birth certificate[/B].[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=88Mariner;921282]someone 'splain this to me:

[URL]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1348916/Hawaii-governor-says-Obamas-birth-record-exists-produce-it.html#ixzz1BakJm5SA[/URL][/QUOTE]

Found it about halfway down:

[quote] Some believe his Certification of Live Birth is fake and he was really born in Kenya. Others argue that Obama is a citizen of the United Kingdom or Indonesia. Most theories have been dismissed by many in public office and the media, and have been found to be misleading or generally untrue.

However, the conspiracy theories still thrive, and according to Abercrombie, are likely to continue despite whatever evidence that shows him to be a proper U.S. citizen.

'You're not going to convince those people because they have a political agenda, or they have minds that go in that kind of direction,' he told CNN. 'Conspiratorial theorists are never going to be satisfied. This has gone into another area of political attack.' [/quote]:)

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^That's just the mainstream's (continual) way of attempting to silence legit questions. Paint those looking for the truth as conspiracy nuts, and the sheep get in line behind whatever proposal you're making.

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;921286]Found it about halfway down:

:)[/QUOTE]

So in other words, no birth certificate? Like I said, I don’t think there is any reasonable doubt that Obama was born in America, specifically Hawaii. Birth announcements at the time constitute powerful evidence to that fact. But if you are going to rebut the birthers, releasing the original is the least you can do.

edit: i post this because i have a feeling that the implication of this is a challenge to his legitimacy to run for re-election that might put him off state ballots...?

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[QUOTE=vinnie97;921287]^That's just the mainstream's (continual) way of attempting to silence legit questions. Paint those looking for the truth as conspiracy nuts, and the sheep get in line behind whatever proposal you're making.[/QUOTE]

I propose a 24hour ban on anyone using this played out excuse anymore on here.

Also it is not 'just the mainstreams way of silencing' shit. If you are a birther, then you are .001% of the population that believes this nonsense, so therefore 'the mainstream', is the collective that says the .001% are wrong.

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[QUOTE=88Mariner;921292]So in other words, no birth certificate? Like I said, I don’t think there is any reasonable doubt that Obama was born in America, specifically Hawaii. Birth announcements at the time constitute powerful evidence to that fact. But if you are going to rebut the birthers, releasing the original is the least you can do.[/QUOTE]

This is never going to be justified because it passed muster and he was elected. Maybe Obama likes his shit and its sitting in the oval office? I was born in a small hospital on a military base that shut down, cant call to get my cert there. I must be a foreigner right?

The office of the president is not going to ever dignify any of this dumb ass talk because it just gives more dumbasses more excuses to come up with other dumbass things such as this, and if they dont respond the 2nd time around, well then they must be hiding something.

If you don't doubt that he was born in HI, then why this nonsense? So the office of the president should expect to waste their time with any idiotic argument that crops up on the internet? That only fuels idiots to stoke the moron fire.

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waste what tine? Just pull it out of your pocket and show people... It would be done. You act like he would have to dig a 10' hole to find it. I have my birth certificate right here next me.

Also why did he lock up all his records on his first day of office?

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[QUOTE=runningman;921299]waste what tine? Just pull it out of your pocket and show people... It would be done. You act like he would have to dig a 10' hole to find it. I have my birth certificate right here next me.

Also why did he lock up all his records on his first day of office?[/QUOTE]

He is the most powerful person in the world and has the country to run, he doesnt have time to appease a small group of idiots, nor should he.

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;921295]This is never going to be justified because it passed muster and he was elected. Maybe Obama likes his shit and its sitting in the oval office? I was born in a small hospital on a military base that shut down, cant call to get my cert there. I must be a foreigner right?

The office of the president is not going to ever dignify any of this dumb ass talk because it just gives more dumbasses more excuses to come up with other dumbass things such as this, and if they dont respond the 2nd time around, well then they must be hiding something.

If you don't doubt that he was born in HI, then why this nonsense? So the office of the president should expect to waste their time with any idiotic argument that crops up on the internet? That only fuels idiots to stoke the moron fire.[/QUOTE]

why? because nobody gets a goddamn free pass in this country. if anything, if there were ANY conspiracy here at all, it would be the hilarious silence the government-endorsed media has vowed to keep on this. the media should always be the watchdog against government interests, but when they're in bed with the government, real problems arise.

that said, i think anyone could go either way on this, particularly with abercrombie coming up with er...nothing. and, with the fact that the grandparents registered the live birth..it's quite possible (but, perhaps improbable) that he was not, in fact, born in the united states (as it would be to the child's best interests to not be a citizen of some third-rate third-world country).

liberals demanded documents from mccain. fairness would assume they'd ask the same of obama, but they have not. i imagine if obama was conservative, the msm would be all over this. as would you.

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;921301]He is the most powerful person in the world and has the country to run, he doesnt have time to appease a small group of idiots, nor should he.[/QUOTE]

what is this genuflective phaggotry? you describe him as if he has a monarch. "he doesn't have time to conform to rules governing anyone else." pshhhh

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[QUOTE=88Mariner;921306]what is this genuflective phaggotry? you describe him as if he has a monarch. "he doesn't have time to conform to rules governing anyone else." pshhhh[/QUOTE]

I misspoke: He has better things to do than deal with fucking morons all day questioning anything and everything they can latch on to.

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the fuck he does.

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;920827][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/V2A3R.gif[/IMG] obligatory "this thread has reached it's critical mass gif"[/QUOTE]

wonderful

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[QUOTE=runningman;921311]the fuck he does.[/QUOTE]

He'd probably shove his foot up your ass if he saw this since you can't even vote! Don't expect him to answer you anytime soon. :lol:

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[video=youtube;hdar1-2oXFE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdar1-2oXFE[/video]

:lol: :deadhorse:

I think this about says it all

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CNN. did not watch.

also

will not watch:

FNC MSNBC

either.

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lulz. don't break ur neck coming down off your high horse there...

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You're the one proposing 24-hour bans for anyone suggestion media complacency on the matter. 0bama should call you up for a new czar position...I think he needs another disinformation agent.

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;921327]lulz. don't break ur neck coming down off your high horse there...[/QUOTE]

oh, i'm on a high horse because i don't watch tv? and the only way to get off of this horse is to....start watching tv that you want me to watch?

oh lulz were had on this friday morning.

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you guys are funny