[URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11715577"]http://itn.co.uk/292757fff5f84ff2ea7766664aec0c32.html[/URL]

More fictitious claims of attacks. Oh and Rest0 he admits he sanctioned it.

Re: George Bush memoirs claim waterboarding OK and saved British lives

I've heard he said in that book his worst moment of his presidency was when he was called a racist by Kanye West. He is a fucking idiot.

Re: George Bush memoirs claim waterboarding OK and saved British lives

According to a UK government mp the claims he made about the attack on canary wharf are completely fictitious.

Re: George Bush memoirs claim waterboarding OK and saved British lives

i agree... kanye west is a fucking idiot!

[QUOTE=res0nat0r;903488]I've heard he said in that book his worst moment of his presidency was when he was called a racist by Kanye West. He is a fucking idiot.[/QUOTE]

Re: George Bush memoirs claim waterboarding OK and saved British lives

[QUOTE=res0nat0r;903488]He is a fucking idiot.[/QUOTE]

I've been trying explain this to MS for the past 3 years :roflmao:

Re: George Bush memoirs claim waterboarding OK and saved British lives

i agree the guy isn't bright, but we're the idiots that voted him in for not 4, but 8 years!

just ordered his book, should be mailed today. idiot or not, his presidency was full of turmoil. should be an interesting read i think.

Re: George Bush memoirs claim waterboarding OK and saved British lives

[QUOTE=Garrick;903518]i agree the guy isn't bright, but we're the idiots that voted him in for not 4, but 8 years!.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, imagine how scary that was for those of us who recognized his idiocy after his first 3 years... which was barely a legitimate win to begin with.

[I]The election was noteworthy for a controversy over the awarding of Florida's 25 electoral votes, the subsequent recount process in that state, and the unusual event of the winning candidate having received fewer popular votes than the runner-up.[1] It was the closest election since 1876 and only the fourth election in which the electoral vote did not reflect the popular vote.[/I]

Re: George Bush memoirs claim waterboarding OK and saved British lives

believe me ppl abroad recognized it before he won...I couldn't actually believe that he won the second term after stealing the first one. I think that had a very decisive influence on my opinion of the US population.

Re: George Bush memoirs claim waterboarding OK and saved British lives

[QUOTE=Shpira;903652] I think that had a very decisive influence on my opinion of the US population.[/QUOTE]

Absolutely it did.

Re: George Bush memoirs claim waterboarding OK and saved British lives

Theresa May the British Home Secretary was on Question Time last night. She refuted George Bush's claim that there was a planed attack on Canary Wharf. Echoes of Gulf of Tonkin again

Re: George Bush memoirs claim waterboarding OK and saved British lives

o'reilly interviewed bush last night. it was cool.

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/47u7M.jpg[/IMG]

Re: George Bush memoirs claim waterboarding OK and saved British lives

I don't know why anyone believes anything the US gov't says anymore. It is always a lie to advance their agenda of control and redistribution of wealth.

Re: George Bush memoirs claim waterboarding OK and saved British lives

what wealth, we are broke.

Re: George Bush memoirs claim waterboarding OK and saved British lives

Social Security is the last thing you guys have and Wall Street is gunning hard for it. And then the rest of us are fucked once Goldman Sachs and the gang turn their eye on us.

Re: George Bush memoirs claim waterboarding OK and saved British lives

[QUOTE=Shpira;903652]believe me ppl abroad recognized it before he won...I couldn't actually believe that he won the second term after stealing the first one. I think that had a very decisive influence on my opinion of the US population.[/QUOTE] Me too. But our prime minister at the time was just as bad, just not as important to the rest of the world. I used to cringe that people would judge us by him! :(

Re: George Bush memoirs claim waterboarding OK and saved British lives

[QUOTE=runningman;904202]I don't know why anyone believes anything the US gov't says anymore. It is always a lie to advance their agenda of control and redistribution of wealth.[/QUOTE]

Dude you don't live here :lol:

Re: George Bush memoirs claim waterboarding OK and saved British lives

eh, everyone has access to just as much information as we do to form their own opinion though. i certainly can't say i have trusted my gov't lately.

Re: George Bush memoirs claim waterboarding OK and saved British lives

oh and dont forget the plagiarism lmao:

[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/12/george-bush-book-decision-points_n_782731.html#s180908[/url]

Re: George Bush memoirs claim waterboarding OK and saved British lives

I just read this thread as [B]George Bush memoirs claim wakeboarding OK and saved British lives [/B]

:lol:

Re: George Bush memoirs claim waterboarding OK and saved British lives

Wow, still bitching about the "stolen" election 10 years on. Who really thinks Al Gore would have taken us in some vastly different direction? :| He's a profiteer on the other end of fear (environmental).

[QUOTE=res0nat0r;904203]what wealth, we are broke.[/QUOTE] Hilary [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWyeeiSAnYc"]disagrees[/URL].

Re: George Bush memoirs claim waterboarding OK and saved British lives

lulwut? let me rephrase 'we are broke, what wealth?'

Re: George Bush memoirs claim waterboarding OK and saved British lives

The leaders the idiotic populace is electing seem to be in a state of cognitive dissonance about that.

Re: George Bush memoirs claim waterboarding OK and saved British lives

[QUOTE=vinnie97;904439]Who really thinks Al Gore would have taken us in some vastly different direction? [/QUOTE]

Any direction would have been better, wouldn't it?

Re: George Bush memoirs claim waterboarding OK and saved British lives

Bush, Gore, Obama, doesn't really matter.

Same shit, different smell.

Re: George Bush memoirs claim waterboarding OK and saved British lives

[QUOTE=DIDI;904315]Me too. But our prime minister at the time was just as bad, just not as important to the rest of the world. I used to cringe that people would judge us by him! :([/QUOTE]

Just the sight of him makes me want to vomit.

Re: George Bush memoirs claim waterboarding OK and saved British lives

[QUOTE=floridaorange;904571]Any direction would have been better, wouldn't it?[/QUOTE] Hell no. Green nazis (and profiteers) and "terrorist" pushers are woven from the same statist controlling cloth. Also, Clinton's disastrously chummy relationship with China is another reason we're in the trouble we are today.

Re: George Bush memoirs claim waterboarding OK and saved British lives

^Vinnie, I think you are in the minority with this one, but we'll have to agree to disagree.... Bush also made America look more like a country of retards than it really is...

... The reason we have a president like Obama, is thanks to your pal George Bush, you can thank Dubya for our country electing Obama. :)

Re: George Bush memoirs claim waterboarding OK and saved British lives

^Well, that's a good point. But you know, for so long it's been a game of voting for the least of 2 evils. Hindsight's a bitch and all that. ;) (and if you want an idea of what we might have looked like under Gore, see Spain).

Re: George Bush memoirs claim waterboarding OK and saved British lives

It doesn't take "hindsight" or "2 terms." I thought Bush was a giant f*cking CUNT of a person and presidential candidate during his first term in office, and was massively concerned when he was reelected.

Re: George Bush memoirs claim waterboarding OK and saved British lives

Yea, well, that's exactly what I considered John Kerry to be. In no way could I vote for that statist, opportunistic douche (misrepresenting one's Military record to elicit votes is one of the more vile political acts).

Re: George Bush memoirs claim waterboarding OK and saved British lives

IMO...there is no excuse. You should have stayed at home.

Re: George Bush memoirs claim waterboarding OK and saved British lives

UN expert urges full U.S. torture investigation

[QUOTE]* New rapporteur aims to probe torture in Iraq, Guantanamo * Mendez backs inquiry into Bush administration

    * Visits to Zimbabwe, Kyrgyzstan, Cuba also high priority
     
    By Stephanie Nebehay 

GENEVA, Nov 16 (Reuters) - The new U.N. torture expert urged the United States on Tuesday to conduct a full investigation into torture under the Bush administration and prosecute offenders as well as senior officials who ordered it.

Juan Ernesto Mendez told Reuters he also hoped to visit Iraq to probe a "very widespread practice of torture" of detainees with the help of coalition forces, revealed in confidential U.S. files issued by Wikileaks . He will also try to visit the U.S. detention centre at Guantanamo -- on condition that he is granted private interviews with prisoners still being held by the Obama administration, he said in his first interview with an international media organisation since taking up the independent post two weeks ago.

"The United States has a duty to investigate every act of torture. Unfortunately, we haven't seen much in the way of accountability," said Mendez, himself a former torture victim, in the wide-ranging interview at the United Nations in Geneva.

"There has to be a more serious inquiry into what happened and by whose orders... It doesn't need to be seen to be partisan or vindictive, just an obligation to follow where the evidence leads," added Mendez, the U.N. special rapporteur on torture.

A previous investigation by a U.S. special prosecutor into torture allegations was limited in scope, and congressional inquiries focused on the Pentagon but not the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), according to Mendez.

"There is a lot more to the story than has been revealed. It is important to get to the bottom of what happened and under whose orders, and if necessary to bring charges," he added. Mendez dismissed as "very disingenuous" comments by former President George W. Bush, who in his memoir "Decision Points" strongly defends the use of waterboarding as crucial to his efforts to prevent a repeat of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.

Bush's approval of waterboarding, a form of simulated drowning condemned by human rights activists as torture, to try to wrench information from captured al Qaeda operatives, was among the most controversial decisions he made during eight years in the White House.

Amnesty International said last week that the United States must prosecute Bush for torture if his admission in the memoir that he authorised waterboarding holds true.

"VICTIM-CENTRED" Mendez, 65, is a lawyer who himself survived torture while jailed by Argentina's military dictatorship in the mid-1970s for denouncing torture and defending opponents of the regime, before being expelled from his homeland.

He recalled his arrest on the street and being tortured with electric prods and beatings, a treatment also suffered by lawyers defending political opponents of President Isabel Peron.

"It was very intense, they gave me five sessions with cattle prods in less than 24 hours. They kept me in incommunicado detention about a week so the signs on my body would disappear." Mendez said he would place victims at the heart of his three-year mandate, reporting to the U.N. Human Rights Council.

Winning permission to visit Zimbabwe and Kyrgyzstan would be among his priorities in the coming year, as well as a first-ever trip to Cuba to probe the prison conditions of hunger strikers. "Victims have the right to see justice done, and to participate in the process, and the state also has an obligation to provide reparations," he said.

Mendez, a law professor at American University in Washington, D.C., succeeds Austrian Manfred Nowak and is the fifth expert to hold the position in 25 years. (Editing by Jonathan Lynn and Tim Pearce) [/QUOTE]

Re: George Bush memoirs claim waterboarding OK and saved British lives

[IMG]http://imgur.com/RsBNF.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://imgur.com/dkHdB.gif[/IMG]