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Most Californians oppose legalizing marijuana-poll

14 durable postsStarted 2010-10-06Latest 2010-11-01
#88360Post 1 of 14

dude, just let all the aspects of the herb's medical necessity (fuck it. in all states for that matter), and dispensation be immune to any prosecution. the plantation-cultivation/breeding/growing; transportation, and medical dispensation --- in all its processes --- should not be prosecuted, period. those (recreational using) caught by the law, without a medical license, should, at most, get a misdemeanor... but certainly not a recorded felony*

on a broader level; could you imagine the considerably fewer number of inmates in our prisons? the immense amount of fiscal appropriation conserved, and thense allocated elsewhere --- where its focus is most needed, like our national debt? idunno brah

i'd make a strong bet that most reps here are just bias and opposed so they can claim "republican" to further their neocon policies; they're surely not true conservatives. c'mon all our founding forefathers, and early presidents used to welcome a big fat bowl from there wife upon coming home from a days work. george fucking washington for the win. +_-

  • hopefully the newly approved criminal penalty will stay. i think there's room for discussion regarding the penalization, severity and complexity of the arrest; but at least allow it to always be correctable (which it already is in most cases here).

[URL]http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N05210230.htm[/URL]

[QUOTE] 05 Oct 2010 22:42:28 GMT Source: Reuters

  • Poll shows most Democrats support legalization

  • Republicans strongly against, independents divided

  • Prop. 19 would let local governments regulate sales

By Peter Henderson

SAN FRANCISCO, Oct 5 (Reuters) - Hopes that California will become the first state in the nation to legalize marijuana appear to be turning into a pipe dream.

Voters plan to oppose a measure on the Nov. 2 ballot to legalize marijuana use by 53 percent to 43 percent, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Tuesday that showed a big change of sentiment from June. [ID:nN05207672]

Liberally inclined and financially troubled, California was the first state to flout federal law and legalize marijuana for medical use, and a Reuters/Ipsos poll in June showed voters nearly evenly divided on the measure to legalize sales and recreational use, known as Proposition 19.

Marijuana use has taken off like a weed in California since voters in 1996 approved the drug for medical use. Doctors in markets including Oakland and Los Angeles are in price wars to provide medical referrals, which have fallen below $100, and Oakland in particular is setting up rules for the creation and taxation of marijuana-growing facilities.

The idea of taxing recreational marijuana draws a lot of attention.

"They should tax the hell out of it and send the money directly to the schools," said Deborah Wynn, 56, a jobless student aiming to work in the medical industry.

WIDESPREAD SCEPTICISM

But California is not as liberal as its reputation: enthusiasm for legalization in Los Angeles and San Francisco is offset by more conservative views in other parts of the state.

And while Democrats support marijuana legalization and outnumber Republicans in the state, Republicans are more consistent in their opposition. Democrats support legalization 54 percent to 45 percent, but Republicans are against it more than two to one, at or 66 percent to 30 percent.

Independents are nearly evenly divided.

Scepticism about legalization runs the gamut from those fearing it will not bring in the hoped-for hundreds of millions or billions of dollars in taxes to those who see marijuana as a real danger.

Michael Smith, a 20-year-old student at Long Beach City College who plans to become a nurse, said marijuana had been a gateway drug for friends who continued to ecstasy and Xanax, an anti-anxiety drug.

"I had two friends who were faded on marijuana and Xannies and flipped their truck on the 605 South," he said, referring to the nearby San Gabriel River Freeway. Both died.

Proposition 19 would allow recreational use of marijuana by adults and regulation of sales and cultivation by local governments, creating a potential hothouse of regulatory experimentation.

Marijuana use already is practically legal in California.

For those unable to obtain a medical referral, the criminal penalty for possession of less than an ounce (28 grams), was reduced last month from a misdemeanor to an "offense," essentially leaving the offender without a criminal record.

The top penalty remains a $100 fine.

"In this time of drastic budget cuts, prosecutors, defense attorneys, law enforcement, and the courts cannot afford to expend limited resources prosecuting a crime that carries the same punishment as a traffic ticket," Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger wrote, as he signed the bill, despite his declared opposition to decriminalizing recreational marijuana use. (Additional reporting by Dan Whitcomb in Los Angeles; Editing by Eric Walsh) (For a TAKE A LOOK on the mid-term elections click on ID:nUSVOTE) (For more on the U.S. midterm elections please click: [URL]http://www.reuters.com/politics/elections-2010[/URL]) [URL]http://link.reuters.com/fyq86p[/URL])) [/QUOTE]

#1418927Post 2 of 14

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lol, the kids who flipped while on xannax, prob arn't even preseribed. they prob got those illegally, and were most likely not competent in its usage. zomg lets eat 2 bars dudes! and drive while stoned! driving stoned and on xannax is fucking stupid.

i'm not advocating the abuse of the herb though. from my perspective, most chronic stoners, and those not suited for cannabis usage, turn to e-bombs(usually not mdma), stimulants, opiates etc. to relieve themselves of the stupidity and inertia caused by the imbalance of stoner syndrome. "the gateway" into other harder substances is predicated by the individual's physical and psychological condition, but not the herb's property.

#1418934Post 3 of 14

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Cigarettes are "the gateway" to grass.

#1418936Post 4 of 14

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I have smoked for years; pretty much daily and have not found it to have ANY impact as a "gateway" drug...i hardly ever take anything and i can't say that smoking weed has a "bad" effect on my life...I work, exercise, have a girlfriend...and i have 2-3 Js before bed. .

#1418953Post 5 of 14

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Well prohibition is the gateway to miss-information. When I traveled to the states I was amazed at the enormous quantity of advertising for legal drugs. Its like a 5 second sequence of a person smiling then 1 minute description of side effects, crazy-

What I mean to say is that the people I know who take medicated drugs seem to be worse in mind and body than those who smoke weed as a mean of recreation, relaxation whatever you want to call it.

#1418978Post 6 of 14

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generally speaking, I would agree

#1418980Post 7 of 14

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[QUOTE=minimal;895441]What I mean to say is that the people I know who take medicated drugs seem to be worse in mind and body than those who smoke weed as a mean of recreation, relaxation whatever you want to call it.[/QUOTE]

Yup it seems there are tons of people strung out on pills nowdays. I think people think it is safer since you don't really have to goto a guy on a dark street corner like they think you do for other drugs, you can just go to your doctor, so hey it can't be that dangerous.

#1418991Post 8 of 14

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This is just propaganda. It is known that 75% of people in general are for legalizing marijuana. Why don't they just decriminalize it? They don't have to make it legal.

I for one love Marijuana!! Babies crying its 3am having trouble getting back to sleep. One joint and goodnight!! Thx Mary Jane.

#1419043Post 9 of 14

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[QUOTE=runningman]Babies crying its 3am having trouble getting back to sleep. One joint and goodnight!! Thx Mary Jane.[/QUOTE]

Your baby smokes weed to stop crying and go to sleep?

#1419046Post 10 of 14

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[QUOTE=Shpira;895416]I have smoked for years; pretty much daily and have not found it to have ANY impact as a "gateway" drug...i hardly ever take anything and i can't say that smoking weed has a "bad" effect on my life...I work, exercise, have a girlfriend...and i have 2-3 Js before bed. .[/QUOTE]

lol. how many years? move to emerica!

everyone knows that, "the gateway drug" facade, is bogus. the people laugh.

#1427020Post 11 of 14

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I wonder how many Americans will relocate if this passes....i bet the first months Cali will be packed with tourists!! Tax the weed Cali !!!!!

#1427025Post 12 of 14

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Most "Californians" voted for Schwarzeneger, doesn't surprise me, Disinformation is rampant nowadays

#1427235Post 13 of 14

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[URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11660210"]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11660210[/URL]

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i will quit tobacco and start taking mushrooms :lol:

#1427248Post 14 of 14

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[QUOTE=kassios;901504][URL]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11660210[/URL]

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i will quit tobacco and start taking mushrooms :lol:[/QUOTE]

lol

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