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tell me this isn't fucked up

10 durable postsStarted 2005-01-08Latest 2005-01-13
#8551Post 1 of 10

so sad, but soooooooooooo true.

By Rush Limbaugh:

I think the vast differences in compensation between victims of the September 11 casualty and those who die serving our country in uniform are profound. No one is really talking about it either, because you just don't criticize anything having to do with September 11. Well, I can't let the numbers pass by because it says something really disturbing about the entitlement mentality of this country. If you lost a family member in the September 11 attack, you're going to get an average of $1,185,000. The range is a minimum guarantee of $250,000, all the way up to $4.7 million.

If you are a surviving fam ily member of an American soldier killed in action, the first check you get is a $6,000 direct death benefit, half of which is taxable.

Next, you get $1,750 for burial costs. If you are the surviving spouse, you get $833 a month until you remarry. And there's a payment of $211 per month for each child under 18. When the child hits 18, those payments come to a screeching halt.

Keep in mind that some of the people who are getting an average of $1.185 million up to $4.7 million are complaining that it's not enough. Their deaths were tragic, but for most, they were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. Soldiers put themselves in harm's way FOR ALL OF US, and they and their families know the dangers.

We also learned over the weekend that some of the victims from the Oklahoma City bombing have started an organization asking for the same deal that the September 11 families are getting. In addition to that, some of the families of those bombed in the embassies are now asking for compensation as well.

You see where this is going, don't you? Folks, this is part and parcel of over 50 years of entitlement politics in this country. It's just really sad. Every time a pay raise comes up for the military, they usually receive next to nothing of a raise. Now the green machine is in combat in the Middle East while their families have to survive on food stamps and live in low-rent housing. Make sense?

However, our own U.S. Congress voted themselves a raise. Many of you don't know that they only have to be in Congress one time to receive a pension that is more than $15,000 per month. And most are now equal to being millionaires plus. They do not receive Social Security on retirement because they didn't have to pay into the system.

If some of the military people stay in for 20 years and get out as an E-7, they may receive a pension of $1,000 per month, and the very people who placed them in harm's way receive a pension of $15,000 per month.

I would like to see our elec ted officials pick up a weapon and join ranks before they start cutting out benefits and lowering pay for our sons and daughters who are now fighting.

#336805Post 2 of 10

So....the soldiers get diddly squat, and the suriving family members of 9/11 get up to 4.7 million?

I think the accident vs profession argument is viable, but this difference is just too big...

#336949Post 3 of 10

Re: tell me this isn't fucked up

[quote=diskofreak] However, our own U.S. Congress voted themselves a raise. Many of you don't know that they only have to be in Congress one time to receive a pension that is more than $15,000 per month. And most are now equal to being millionaires plus. They do not receive Social Security on retirement because they didn't have to pay into the system. [/quote]

It's almost amazing how politicians never really have problems when they vote for their raises. It's kind of the same here in Slovenia. I think there was (luckily there isn't any more) also a law which allowed them to retire at 50 or even younger, because their job is so demanding... :roll:

#337475Post 4 of 10

it's a sad joke :evil: :evil:

#337518Post 5 of 10

fucking politicians....

#337558Post 6 of 10

i would love to see a citizen mandated law that makes being a politician a volunteer job. only pay for thier expenses. dont let them keep a penny because they sit on a panel.

to avoid soldier deaths, i would abandon all fair war rules and just level the fucking place first, then bomb it again, then send in the troops.

#338124Post 7 of 10

don't care for many of his views, but this one is spot on...

You can't put a price on grief and emotion...no amount will ever offset that, but the right amounts will make you have a nice rest of your life...

#338372Post 8 of 10

[quote=thesightless]i would love to see a citizen mandated law that makes being a politician a volunteer job. only pay for thier expenses. dont let them keep a penny because they sit on a panel. [/quote]

Sounds like a good idea to me. Let's do it! I can't believe that the people who sit on the city council here make more than me. Maybe I should run for it since most of the time they are unapposed.

#338654Post 9 of 10

the town i used to live in, actually i belive discfreak lives there as well, has a stipulation that the town board gets no more than 20k a year flat,, then the town pays all thier insurances for the job. works well IMO

#338933Post 10 of 10

interesting coming from Limbaugh.

this would be one of the only (if not THE only) issue on which both Limbaugh and Michael Moore would agree. haha.

US congress just recently voted themselves another pay raise. congressmen make over 150,000 USD per year.

Individual members are free to refuse their pay increases, and some choose to do so. interesting...

on a similar note, this is pretty interesting (although you may have to register--it's free--to read the article);

[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A45237-2004Jul12?language=printer[/url]

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