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things people care about in the usa right now:

getting a job not losing their job not getting laid off not getting outsourced not getting their house foreclosed

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[QUOTE=runningman;904201]What didn't I make sense about? [B] Sections of your gov't attack themselves so the polls go up in their countries[/B]. Remember I said nothing helps a President or Prime Minister like a terrorist attack. The people rally behind the gov't.

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Uh, what.

here is the text from the article you posted about obama's poll #s. And where were we talking about prime ministers? you only mentioned our current president.

[quote]President Obama's approval rating is up - despite the clobbering he got at the ballot box.

Obama's poll numbers climbed to 47% in the days after the Republican rout gave the GOP control of the House and big pickups in the Senate, a new Gallup poll found.

While that's only slightly higher than Obama's 43% approval rating before last week's midterm elections, past Gallup trends showed that a President's popularity usually declines when his party suffers a midterm loss.

That's what happened to Bill Clinton in 1994 and George W. Bush in 2006.

Obama's conciliatory post-election speech may have helped improve his numbers, Gallup said.

Also, Obama appears to be benefitting from the much-better than expected jobs report Friday, last week's Stock Market rally and his well-received state visit to India.

Still, Obama has to do some work to get back into America's good graces.

[B]"Despite the uptick in approval for the President in the last few days, Obama's average approval rating for the week ending Nov. 7 is 45%, identical to his average for all of October," Gallup reported.[/B]

Read more: [url]http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/11/09/2010-11-09_president_obamas_approval_rating_climbs_to_47_despite_midterm_massacre_of_democr.html#ixzz1568oawow[/url][/quote]

But nevermind that, because you don't read the articles anyway. You have fantastical ideas, including those with 'false flags.' I suppose the JFK terror plot was a false flag. I also suppose that the fort hood shooting was a false flag too. And what about the NYC bomber? or the Detroit bomber? Must all be false flags.

Face it man, you shot yourself in the foot. Own up to it.

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;904204]the gov't didnt attack itself. no one cares about the printer-cartridge-bomber-terrorist-attack. the election is already over. move on.[/QUOTE]

:thumbsup:

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[QUOTE=Localizer;904238]Uh, what..

And what about the NYC bomber? or the Detroit bomber? Must all be false flags.

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You mean the guy who got on the aeroplane without a passport?

[video=youtube;t_QmTsKsFzE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_QmTsKsFzE[/video]

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Hi 5 why don't you just go down on each other

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[QUOTE=chunky;904241]You mean the guy who got on the aeroplane without a passport?

[video=youtube;t_QmTsKsFzE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_QmTsKsFzE[/video][/QUOTE]

You mean the TSA fucked up? Holy shit alert the President.

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[video=youtube;NU4RjI9ZhKA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU4RjI9ZhKA[/video]

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I'm hearing conspiracy rumblings on the internets about the shit I just took an hour ago.

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Reso this thread is for people with an open mind. If you want you can start your own thread called "I believe all the propaganda from Mainstream Media and let's talk about it"

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;904246]I'm hearing conspiracy rumblings on the internets about the shit I just took an hour ago.[/QUOTE]

Post a link please

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[QUOTE=chunky;904249]Post a link please[/QUOTE]

alex jones is recording a show about it right now, he will broadcast it soon.

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;904246]I'm hearing conspiracy rumblings on the internets about the shit I just took an hour ago.[/QUOTE]

:lol:

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Still waiting

[QUOTE]A Michigan man who was aboard Northwest Airlines Flight 253 says he witnessed Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab trying to board the plane in Amsterdam without a passport.

Kurt Haskell of Newport, Mich., who posted an earlier comment about his experience, talked exclusively with MLive.com and confirmed he was on the flight by sending a picture of his boarding pass. He and his wife, Lori, were returning from a safari in Uganda when they boarded the NWA flight on Friday. Haskell said he and his wife were sitting on the ground near their boarding gate in Amsterdam, which is when they saw Mutallab approach the gate with an unidentified man.

Kurt and Lori Haskell are attorneys with Haskell Law Firm in Taylor. Their expertise includes bankruptcy, family law and estate planning.

While Mutallab was poorly dressed, his friend was dressed in an expensive suit, Haskell said. He says the suited man asked ticket agents whether Mutallab could board without a passport. “The guy said, 'He's from Sudan and we do this all the time.'”

Mutallab is Nigerian. Haskell believes the man may have been trying to garner sympathy for Mutallab's lack of documents by portraying him as a Sudanese refugee.

The ticket agent referred Mutallab and his companion to her manager down the hall, and Haskell didn't see Mutallab again until after he allegedly tried to detonate an explosive on the plane.

Haskell said the flight was mostly unremarkable. That was until he heard a flight attendant say she smelled smoke, just after the pilot announced the plane would land in Detroit in 10 minutes. Haskell got out of his seat to view the brewing commotion.

“I stood up and walked a couple feet ahead to get a closer look, and that's when I saw the flames,” said Haskell, who sat about seven rows behind Mutallab. “It started to spread pretty quickly. It went up the wall, all the way to ceiling.”

Haskell, who described Mutallab as a diminutive man who looks like a teenager, said about 30 seconds passed between the first mention of smoke and when Mutallab was subdued by fellow passengers.

“He didn't fight back at all. This wasn't a big skirmish,” Haskell said. “A couple guys jumped on him and hauled him away.” The ordeal has Haskell and his wife a little shaken. Flight attendants were screaming during the fire and the pilot sounded notably nervous when bringing the plane in for a landing, he said.

“Immediately, the pilot came on and said two words: emergency landing,” Haskell said. “And that was it. The plane sped up instead of slowing down. You could tell he floored it.”

As Mutallab was being led out of the plane in handcuffs, Haskell said he realized that was the same man he saw trying to board the plane in Amsterdam.

Passengers had to wait about 20 minutes before they were allowed to exit the plane. Haskell said he and other passengers waited about six hours to be interviewed by the FBI.

About an hour after landing, Haskell said he saw another man being taken into custody. But a spokeswoman from the FBI in Detroit said Mutallab was the only person taken into custody.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=chunky;904380]Still waiting[/QUOTE]

Ok and? It's not a false flag operation. You'd think if they wanted a true false flag operation, the mysterious suit man and his buddies would have gone over and practiced the detonation with Mutallab. If they want a false flag operation, they'll do it 100%, not half-assed, thus eliminating any chance of failure. Nice try though.

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The purpose isn't to blow up an aircraft, its to sustain this idea of terrorism. No one got killed but it kept this idea that we are under attack alive. like I've said before, if you want to really terrorise people its a lot easer than boarding a plane.

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[QUOTE=chunky;904389] its to sustain this idea of terrorism. [/QUOTE]

So they are working in conjunction with America's Gov't? Is that your logic?

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Who in this thread, believes what the goverment tells them?

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Jessie Ventura's and Alex Jone's latest [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHb83VNijBM]concentration camps expose'[/url] is yet another reason not to trust the Feds.

[QUOTE=res0nat0r;904231]i live here. i already know the general population are idiots.[/QUOTE] Be careful to avoid the mirror with that judgmental tone.

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i've figured it out, ya'lll are pissed off we've been the worlds superpower for so long, yet we are so young, and we've (thanks to DARPA) created teh internets for you to bitch on. no fucking wonder you are jealous!!

[IMG]http://imgur.com/JXi2B.png[/IMG]

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in before the us isnt the #1 stunna superpower

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Yeah reso, we're also jealous of your freedoms.

lol

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[QUOTE=dig72;904476]Yeah reso, we're also jealous of your freedoms.

lol[/QUOTE]

obviously, since you spend more time than us livin' wit themz freedomz, trying to justify how bad we are. hummm. :lol:

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;904400]So they are working in conjunction with America's Gov't? Is that your logic?[/QUOTE]

No I think they are the same. Since 9/11 all these little incidents don’t really look like some criminal master mind intent on causing destruction. If there is some network of terrorists they are a best incompetent and maybe don’t give a fuck.

The Printer Cartridge along with the so called Shoe Bomber and the Pants Bomber stories are even more bizarre. You would think this underground network would be able to make a bomb that was actually able to detonate. I think the bombs where never intended to go off. The where staged just so the government could sustain this idea that terror is still out there. If there hadn’t been these so called acts of terror. I think a lot of people would be asking a lot more questions about their governments.

You only have to look into the history of the leader of the so called 7/7 bomber. He was picked up by the US Government then released because he was working for MI5. On the day of the bombings he left the UK. I think he manipulated these 4 people into carry out the attack and I’m not sure if they all knew what they where doing.

Now the terrorists have moved from Martyrdom to parcel bombing we should expect more incidents and on a bigger scale. Why send 4 ink cartridges when you can send 400? Why post them from the other side of the world when you can post them internally. Why keep targeting planes when you can target trains, buses or shopping malls a lot easier? You only have to look at the terror campaign that the IRA used in the 70’s through to the 90’s. We had car bombs used on shopping malls, mortar attacks on airports, assassinations of police, the armed forces, prison guards and politicians. But these days all we see are bungled bombing attempts.

9/11 was probably the biggest act of terrorism ever, but how did the terrorist go from something that must have took a lot of planning to the pants bomber

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[QUOTE=chunky;904389]The purpose isn't to blow up an aircraft, its to sustain this idea of terrorism. No one got killed but it kept this idea that we are under attack alive. like I've said before, if you want to really terrorise people its a lot easer than boarding a plane.[/QUOTE]

Ok, for the sake of brevity and assuming you are correct since you took a tangential route, how does this play back into RM's theory that a false flag op would be created to invade Iran? If all it is meant to do is 'scare and sustain the idea of terrorism?'

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It doesn't, I was responding to Florida's question. I doubt the US will invade Iran any more than they will invade Burma, China or Korea. The stakes are much higher and there is little to gain. What we had in Iraq was a load of feeble excuses. If Iraq really was within 45 minutes of firing anything they would not of been invaded at all.

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[QUOTE=dig72;904410]Who in this thread, believes what the goverment tells them?[/QUOTE]

Who in this thread is capable of using a certain amount of reasonability to reach objective conclusions? Sometimes people let their imaginations run wild. Thus it goes back to RM making wild claims that a false flag op would occur which would allow the US to invade Iran. It's one thing to discuss theories; it's another to prophetise and make outlandish claims based on a fleeting imagination.

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This insane govt. has lost all sense of "reasonability."

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[QUOTE=Localizer;904523]Who in this thread is capable of using a certain amount of reasonability to reach objective conclusions? Sometimes people let their imaginations run wild. Thus it goes back to RM making wild claims that a false flag op would occur which would allow the US to invade Iran. It's one thing to discuss theories; it's another to prophetise and make outlandish claims based on a fleeting imagination.[/QUOTE]

I believe everyone is. And if peoples mind are starting to run wild then you have the msm and leaders of the nation to thank for that. They lie so much that people don't know what to believe anymore.

And yes, RM did got it wrong in regards to an attack on Iran happening soon.

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;904482]obviously, since you spend more time than us livin' wit themz freedomz, trying to justify how bad we are. hummm. :lol:[/QUOTE]

Keep in mind also that every other country watches american movies and tv, and know way more about our culture via television than America will ever know about these other countries...

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That is true. I think thats why the Taliban apparently hates us, it sees Jessica Simpson parading around in a bikini and the other drivel Hollywood puts out there :D

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[QUOTE=chunky;904489]No I think they are the same. Since 9/11 all these little incidents don’t really look like some criminal master mind intent on causing destruction. If there is some network of terrorists they are a best incompetent and maybe don’t give a fuck.

The Printer Cartridge along with the so called Shoe Bomber and the Pants Bomber stories are even more bizarre. You would think this underground network would be able to make a bomb that was actually able to detonate. I think the bombs where never intended to go off. The where staged just so the government could sustain this idea that terror is still out there. If there hadn’t been these so called acts of terror. I think a lot of people would be asking a lot more questions about their governments.

You only have to look into the history of the leader of the so called 7/7 bomber. He was picked up by the US Government then released because he was working for MI5. On the day of the bombings he left the UK. I think he manipulated these 4 people into carry out the attack and I’m not sure if they all knew what they where doing.

Now the terrorists have moved from Martyrdom to parcel bombing we should expect more incidents and on a bigger scale. Why send 4 ink cartridges when you can send 400? Why post them from the other side of the world when you can post them internally. Why keep targeting planes when you can target trains, buses or shopping malls a lot easier? You only have to look at the terror campaign that the IRA used in the 70’s through to the 90’s. We had car bombs, used on shopping malls, mortar attacks on airports, assassinations of police, the armed forces, prison guards and politicians. But these days all we see are bungled bombing attempts.

9/11 was probably the biggest act of terrorism ever, but how did the terrorist go from something that must have took a lot of planning to the pants bomber[/QUOTE]

^ this

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;904607]That is true. I think thats why the Taliban apparently hates us, it sees Jessica Simpson parading around in a bikini and the other drivel Hollywood puts out there :D[/QUOTE]

Or "The Real Housewives of LA" or whatever :shutters: