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First good news of 2005.
22 durable postsStarted 2005-01-04Latest 2005-01-23
Re: First good news of 2005.
we need to be spending more time saving humans, not monkeys. :roll:
this is about to get moved to politics in t - 5 posts
[quote=palmer]this is about to get moved to politics in t - 5 posts[/quote]
:?
^stem cell research is definitely a political issue...and not to be confused with the sasha and digweed ball licking that goes on in general yak.
Re: First good news of 2005.
[quote=Jenks]we need to be spending more time saving humans, not monkeys. :roll:[/quote]
They're killing monkeys to save humans Jenks... :)
Japanese monkeys with parkinsons desease... :shock: :CrackUp:
Didn't know this existed...
[quote=brakada]Japanese monkeys with parkinsons desease... :shock: :CrackUp:
Didn't know this existed...[/quote]
I believe they use MPTP, which was supposed to be a synthetic heroin to induce parkinsons. It came out initally as a street replacement/substitute for heroin but no one knew the actual consequences.
[url]http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mptp/mptp.shtml[/url]
^^^^ well, then it's even worse. You make poor little monkeys "shake and tremble" just to cure them later... :roll:
Thats the way medical testing has been done for centuries, its nothing new. Are you some PETA activist or something? I am all for animal rights, to a certain extent, and sure it does seem wrong to a certain degree. But if there was any other way to test drugs like this then medical science would adapt.
The fact is there is no other way. So that fact remains, humans regard themselves as the supreme lifeforms on this planet, and rightfully so. And thus, they will always be willing to kill a few monkeys, and torture a few more in order to cure something threatening our lives, even if it seems unethical, which it is to a certain extent.
That's how animal experiments work...you know, I really find it horrific that we're treating those animals like that, but then again: look at what it has brought us so far....most of the medicines we take have been tested on animals before they were released for human use.
boldog uj?vet mindenkinek :) from hungary :D
uhhh...?
Boldog = Bulldog? :mrgreen:
Hmm. Hungary... Home of Pataky... :mrgreen: :RockOn: :Naughty: :oops: Thank you! :P
Re: First good news of 2005.
[quote=Jenks]we need to be spending more time saving humans, not monkeys. :roll:[/quote]
Agreed.
[quote=brakada]Hmm. Hungary... Home of Pataky... :mrgreen: :RockOn: :Naughty: :oops: Thank you! :P[/quote]
you forgot :D :) :Respect: :ChatterB: :BigSmile: :Bingo: :Nice: :Tongue: :YeaRight: :GameOn:
I don't understand the theory behind keeping medicine away from people who badly need it.. if i was about to die and there was a medicine for me i better be able to take it.. even if they don't know the side efffects.. that is how you would find out..
Which could also kill you. You wouldn't be the first to succumb to the side-effect from a medicine. Testing is done on human subjects, too. But in case they fear it could be too dangerous, I think they still resort to animal testing.
it is always animal testing though.. i am sick of seeing all this money going to cancer research and Aids research and there has been nothing now since polio.. they need to get there shit together..
[quote=runningman]it is always animal testing though.. i am sick of seeing all this money going to cancer research and Aids research and there has been nothing now since polio.. they need to get there shit together..[/quote]
RE cancer, there is supposed to be natural cures but no pharmicutical companies are willing to fund studies or announce such a solution since there is no money to be made and this would only hurt them with their business model. Look into turmeric. Its used heavily in Indian foods (called "haldi") and the same reason the cancer rates there are significantly lower.
I am of the belief that there has been cures for this and all other diseases all along. But the drug companies that creat diseases like Aids and the one that they've had in china. Only to further the money they can make off so called "treatments" of these diseases. Drug companies are what a lot of problems rely on. I refuse to take the flu vaccine or any other vaccine for that matter. You never know what is actually in there. I'd rather be sick for a week than take some government drug.
^^^ call me paranoid but I don't get the flu vaccine for the same reason. It strikes me as odd that we had a "shortage" this year. To me this seems a good way to build demand for it next year (better get it before we run out). But maybe its just the conspiracy theorist in me.