Why does the media send its full attention to the 120,000+ dead from a natural disaster, when 1,000,000+ are being slaughtered in Sudan?

I guess it's harder to take a moral stance on a pack of evil individuals, who knows? Is there more emotion?

I'm seeing no media coverage of the slaughter in Sudan. It's absent.

Beats me man. It's easier to get people to give with such an emotional thing, Sudan has been around for, like, forever...and even I wouldn't give shit to those a-holes unless they first stop killing each other.

I read that the UN has frozen all financial aid to Sudan because of the killings: why the hell did they receive money in the first place? That would've better spent sending peacekeeping troops with a mandate that gives them the right to enforce peace (that is: use their bloody guns instead of petting them).

Stupid.

Easy: There are no interests in Africa. That's why you rarely hear any other reporting of things going on in Africa.

Believe me, there are enough interests in Africa...it's not being plundered for nothing.

Well, I think it's hard to compare the dead people in Sudan to the victims of Tsunami, cause both tragedies were caused by very different reasons. While Tsunami was an inevitable natural disaster, the Sudanese conflict has a long history and is caused by the people itself. I think the problem with Africa is that most of the nations/tribes/groups simply can not put aside their differences and hatred, so the conflicts "never" end and my guess is that Africa (at least most of it) will still need a century or two to "mature" and realise that war is not the way. But until the African people realise that, the rest of the world simply won't care...

But to get back to cosmo's question (I'll answer it with another question): Why did the US invade Iraq, where the number of killed civilians is a lot lower than in Sudan, when they could be "bringing peace and democracy" to Sudan? :wink:

yeah u anwsered it..all that shit in africa is aload of wank..they'll never learn and thats why theres no media coverage cause no one cares..

As far as the the Asia Tsunami thing goes..im interested in it as my mates were over in phuket about 3weeks ago and thank fully moved on too Oz...

Yeah and that jizzface Bob Geldoff should give the money from band Aid 20 to the victims of the Tsunami.

frankly its sad but true. africa unfortunetly doesnt offer much economically. thats why the leading nations tend to toss thier problems aside more often than not. geographicaclly it is hard to populate in terms of actually making major cities/commercial oppurtunites in most areas :?

ur right, but they only have themselves to blame... they act like animals with guns so why should the world take them seriously...

I was goin give money to the band aid thing but my mate swayed me saying...how is the country still in the shit after 20 years of aid? WTF are they playin at over there...its the stupid fuckin rebels goin around stopping progress..

Im far more interested in helping developing countrys for example the ones that got hit by the tsunami...thats where my money is goin..

Problem with Africa is hat this so-called tribalism is inherited from the colonial period. It was part of the divide-and rule tactics, and is still working into society until this day.

A perfect example of this is the [url=http://www.ppu.org.uk/genocide/g_rwanda.html]genocides in Rwanda[/url]

Combine this with the unnatural borders we have drawn, and you've got the perfect ingredients for everlasting problems on the continent. I personally think governments should rely more on the traditional hierarchical structures, which still have more legitimacy even now. That is partially how South Africa has managed to get through such a difficult political transition.

I did an extensive paper on the genocides in Rwanda, and have since then even learnt more about it. The whole story is fucking disturbing, and the role of UN AID and NGO's is really big in it...this case has proven to me that the UN is ready for a big organisational overhaul, and NGO's are just vultures living off the continent instead of helping it.

A girlfriend of mine, whom I spoke to today, was in Ivory coast when the troubles started there, she has been in danger of getting dragged out onto the streets and getting raped and murdered, and man, she told me some disturbing stuff today, that has backed up my opinion. Working for an NGO herself she has become increasingly disillusioned by the way they handle things...

And by the way: at this moment it is in fact the rebels going for a change for the good in most cases, not the government. Those are usually sucking the people dry...pretty logical when owning the state is the best way to guarantee income.

Yao For them to pull a woman out on the streets and rape her has nothing to do with what state there country is in... to me it shows how simple minded these people are who dont think for themselves and follow the pack..

i agree that it has alot to do with the Un but i still think there thick bastards, if they wanted to stop it all they would sort it out between themselves...

[quote=Mr.Big]Yao For them to pull a woman out on the streets and rape her has nothing to do with what state there country is in... to me it shows how simple minded these people are who dont think for themselves and follow the pack..

i agree that it has alot to do with the Un but i still think there thick bastards, if they wanted to stop it all they would sort it out between themselves...[/quote]

I've never seen things like that happen in times of peace....and I've seen it happen all around the globe in times of war. It is not exclusive tot he African continent, it happened on a large scale in Bosnia/Serbia/Croatia as well. So please don't condemn a whole people on something like this, althoug I assume you didn't mean it like that. :wink:

I don't like generalizing, but I still believe that most of Africa is rather uncivilised and still behaves and thinks like it did 1000s of years ago and things like mentioned before happen there a bit more often than on other continents. It's true that rapes and plunder happen in almost every war, but the problem with Africa is, that there are always a couple of countries which are at war. And if not, you can always find a couple of countries where there's a civil war going on.

The problem with Africa's natural resources is, that most of the discovered ones (personally I believe there are still a lot of undiscovered ones) are already in the hands of western corporations which continue to "plunder" the black continent.

^i agree with what ur sayin, as far as western countrys taking there resources...fair enough i say at least someone is getting good from them...

I really hope, you're joking... :?

im not joking....let them fight while we a civilised society come in and take the benifits..

Fuck the hippys, go on the globalisation.. :RockOn:

Fuck that. First we ravage the continent and send them backwards and then we start complaining about it?

Seems like a few people here are also ignoring the changes Africa has made in the past 15 years or so, for you information: december 7th there have been elections in Ghana which J.A. Kufuor won. No rebellion, no violence, just plain democratic elections. Same goes for Kenya, Tanzania, Botswana, South Africa, Zambia, Senegal, Nigeria and a lot more. The civil war-torn countries are far in the minorities right now, and international conflicts are rare at this moment.

I'm not saying everything is peachy, but the continent is slowly headed in the right direction. If you fail to see this, you should try and read some on it. There still needs to be a change of mentality, they need to shed that victim role and start working on the future, and even that is starting to happen.

I once spoke to a teacher, Appiah Mensah, who said to me: "we are dumb, that's why we can't develope our country". I nearly kicked him in the ass for saying that: I've seen so many Africans wanting to help building their country up, but if you can't pay the tuition fees, how will you get the knowledge to do that what is nessecary?

Don't ever fucking say they're uncivilised man, my Ghanaian teacher is one of the coolest and smartest persons I know. I take it as an insult on his part.

U can take it as an insult if u want.... generally i feel the country will never be free...and i agree the people are the main source of it..

Maybe im being bad and branding them but i believe they only have themselves to blame...

"we are dumb, that's why we can't develope our country" and that came from a Teacher :?: :?: :?:

Not setting a great example is he..

It shows the helplessness people feel about not progressing, don't you get it? I think you are branding them, though I don't believe you're actually trying to insult people or me by it.

Give them access to information and tuition, and you just might get some results out of it...the will is there, they just don't have the means. (Okay not the guys like Mugabe, they're the ones holding the good-willing back)

[quote=Mr.Big]im not joking....let them fight while we a civilised society come in and take the benifits..

Fuck the hippys, go on the globalisation.. :RockOn:[/quote]

kinda makes me wonder what you think about your own country's history (assuming you're from where you currently are), particularly the 800 or so years of british oppression. I'm not being scarcastic here, but genuinely curious. Do you think the Irish would have made it as a 'civilised' society without the British? ...I guess I'm getting off topic. totally different situations, but i think the same general mind-set may apply to the reasoning of these questions, that is, the mind-set of 'civilised superiority'

...and if you're not irish, well...then just refer to my sig :WinkNSmi:

yeah i am irish buddy...and i do believe progression would have found a way in ireland without the british...ireland would be a much happyer place if the english never invaded us... sure they gave us a helping hand but also left there mark up the north with all the feuding..

that was an off-topic point...i still think that they just dont have the ability to change over there..who cares anyway suppose it will never affect me anyway.. :roll:

Sorry for getting off topic, it just strikes me as odd, or even ironic, that you state that your people would have been better off without being exploited by the British for so long (agreed), yet you propose exploitation of Africans by what you call 'civilised' societies based on the same principles that the British used to base their exploitation of your people. You basically state that the Africans are an inferior society, but you go beyond that to say that they don't even have the potential to be an equal society. On what do you base this bold claim?

Your quote "let them fight while we a civilised society come in and take the benifits.. Fuck the hippys, go on the globalisation.." baffles me. It might make more sense if you replaced globalisation with imperialism, because that's what you seem to be a proponent of. How does exploiting African societies further globalisation?

Your complete dismissal of the problem, "who cares anyway suppose it will never affect me anyway.." seems to show a further misunderstanding of the globalisation that you claim to be in favor of. Do you not think that in a truely globalized society that any major political or economical struggle of a particular region of the world will affect all other regions of the world? It may not affect you right now, but the major changes in the works in Africa, the Middle East, and even China and Korea will eventually have huge global impacts. I guess you can dismiss it all if you want, but it seems highly illogical to do so and make statements about furthering globalisation.

Some of your statements here make me wonder if you really understand what you're talking about

Blah blah blah....Its friday and ive finished work

its time to drink... :Alchy

ok fine i dont understand what im talkin about then.. :roll:

u won't change my opinion...how many more millions will be thrown into that country to achieve nothing...

anyway im outtie...have a good weekend.. 8)

well that's rather disappointing. I was fully expecting a good sporting match of debate...oh well...enjoy the drink

Yeah...

[quote=Mr.Big]Blah blah blah....Its friday and ive finished work

its time to drink... :Alchy

ok fine i dont understand what im talkin about then.. :roll: [/quote]

obviously... :roll: 8)

[quote=Mr.Big] u won't change my opinion...how many more millions will be thrown into that country to achieve nothing... [/quote]

Only FYI, Africa is a continent, not a country... :mrgreen:

Guys...just got word yesterday eve...

Me and my uncle might be receiving a delegation from Burkina Faso within a month or so, to discuss subsidizing possibilities. Yesterday I had my friend in Burkina on the phone telling me his minister (!!) was very enthusiastic about the plans...

Fuck. I'm dealing with governments now, what the hell have I been thinking!? :mrgreen: :shock:

[quote=brakada][quote=Mr.Big]Blah blah blah....Its friday and ive finished work

its time to drink... :Alchy

ok fine i dont understand what im talkin about then.. :roll: [/quote]

obviously... :roll: 8)

[quote=Mr.Big] u won't change my opinion...how many more millions will be thrown into that country to achieve nothing... [/quote]

Only FYI, Africa is a continent, not a country... :mrgreen:[/quote]

STFU!! :evil:

^^^^ Temper, temper... :lol:

And seriously:

AFRICA IS A CONTINENT. NOT A COUNTRY!!!! :mrgreen: :twisted:

But please, do let me know what did you mean exactly by "how many MORE millions will be thrown into that CONTINENT, to achieve nothing"?

Yeah...cause i'll be doing that, too. On my own way of course...

I know it is asshole...i wrote that with about 2minutes before i left work on friday...its a small point who cares..

yes how many millions from the UN/EU/US whoever, are thrown into different countrys in africa that seem so war torn and will never improve.. i think its a waste of money thats just my view..

Agree or disagree i dont really give a shit. :roll: