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Polish Disaster

27 durable postsStarted 2010-04-10Latest 2010-04-13
#82317Post 1 of 27

Wow what a disaster that happened today in Russia. A jet carrying 96 members of Polands Elite died in a horrible plane crash.

[URL]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1264964/BREAKING-NEWS-Plane-carrying-Polish-president-crashes-Russia.html[/URL]

Conspiracy sites will be going off the hook on this one.

#1357181Post 2 of 27

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Did the plane vaporise on impact?

#1357182Post 3 of 27

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in before antique CCTV and CIA.

#1357184Post 4 of 27

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Maybe they didn't have special paint on the ground.

#1357185Post 5 of 27

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I forgot to add. I hope they are pulling anyone from the forest next-door in case it decides to fall down. I wonder how much polished metal they will find on the ground!

#1357187Post 6 of 27

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It is very strange Chunky. Apparently the plane did not vaporize?

Things that you would expect were found. Bodies, engines, tail sections... It is very strange.

[IMG]http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/images/attachement/jpg/site1/20100410/0023ae73cfef0d2a8b014e.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2010/04/11/alg_russia_plane_crash.jpg[/IMG]

I wonder why the plane didn't disintegrate into thousands of little pieces spread out over miles?? This accident is weird.

#1357203Post 7 of 27

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Damn shame... :(

#1357218Post 8 of 27

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[QUOTE=runningman;851659]It is very strange Chunky. Apparently the plane did not vaporize? [/QUOTE]

For those of you geniuses that are comparing a plane that runs directly into a cement building with tree's and earth, you're comments fall on deaf ears.

give me a break :roll:

[quote]The Pentagon had been reconstructed with a web of steel columns and bars to withstand bomb blasts.

The area struck by the plane also had blast-resistant windows—2 inches thick and 2,500 pounds each—that stayed intact during the crash and fire. It had fire doors that opened automatically and newly built exits that allowed people to get out.[/quote]

#1357236Post 9 of 27

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[QUOTE]The Pentagon had been reconstructed with a web of steel columns and bars to withstand bomb blasts.

The area struck by the plane also had blast-resistant windows—2 inches thick and 2,500 pounds each—that stayed intact during the crash and fire. It had fire doors that opened automatically and newly built exits that allowed people to get out. [/QUOTE]

The Pentagon plane managed to pass though the web of steel columns, the blast resistant windows and automatic doors unlike the Russian plane that couldn't penetrate the the not so blast-resistant dirt so it bounced and parked up ground side leaving no visible shiny metal piece for anyone to see:lol:

[IMG]http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/images/attachement/jpg/site1/20100410/0023ae73cfef0d2a8b014e.jpg[/IMG]

#1357244Post 10 of 27

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If you take a bullet and and toothpick and hit the toothpick with a hammer against the bullet, what's going to happen?

However, if you took a bullet and hit it with a nail, what's going to happen?

I'll give you a hint smarty pants...

[IMG]http://www.busymom.net/reviews/kaboom.gif[/IMG]

A Jet flying through trees and hitting the earth is factually nowhere near the same thing as a plane intentionally being flown into a cement building.

#1357292Post 11 of 27

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I'm sure the Americans are to blame somehow!!!!!!!!!!! :axe: :p

#1357299Post 12 of 27

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no the Russians are probably more responsible than the US for this one if someone did this on purpose. Russia warned about the missile shield. Unless Poland was going the way of Ukraine and the US wanted to send a message but I think that is highly unlikely since Poland agreed to the missile shield.

The likelyhood that this was just an accident is kind of hard to believe with the brass that was on that plane. I'm not ruling accident out but I would def. say that intentional is more likely.

Also I love how everyone just points out the Pentagon plane. What about United 93. Shit they didn't even find a plane there. It was spread out over miles in thousands of pieces.

#1357321Post 13 of 27

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[QUOTE=runningman;851786] Also I love how everyone just points out the Pentagon plane. What about United 93. Shit they didn't even find a plane there. It was spread out over miles in thousands of pieces.[/QUOTE]

I was joking with my points earlier but that is a good point.

#1357350Post 14 of 27

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[QUOTE=runningman;851638] Conspiracy sites will be going off the hook on this one.[/QUOTE]

Does that include this one?

#1357358Post 15 of 27

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well Toasty even you must admit that the entire Polish Gov't getting wiped out in one tragedy is suspicious no?

#1360312Post 16 of 27

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Come on Toasty, everyone knows that all "Governments" are guilty until proven innocent... get with the times man, "stop living in the 30's."

#1360318Post 17 of 27

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I'm not saying for sure it was a conspiracy I'm just saying if you don't question the top brass of a country dying at once in a plance crash then you are quite naive. Don't be affraid to at least question it. And if you are affraid ask yourself why are you affraid to at least question it..

I wish I could be a President. All you really have to do is look in the camera and use words like absurd, ridiculous, out of line, irresponsible, ludicrous and then everyone would believe you just like that.. I wish I could do that in some of my arguments with you guys. It must be nice knowing you have the people in your back pocket because you own the media.

#1360322Post 18 of 27

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Glossed over text from the article:

[quote] Pilot error has been blamed for the tragedy after it emerged he turned down the opportunity to land at an alternative runway in thick fog. Witnesses said the pilot made three or four attempts to land before crashing into woodland nearby.[/quote][LEFT][COLOR=#000000] ;) [/COLOR][/LEFT]

#1360325Post 19 of 27

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Of course Reso.. What do you think it would say

"They Didn't Go With the Program So We Got Rid of Them."

God it hurts me to have to explain these things.

#1360327Post 20 of 27

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[quote] Witnesses said the pilot made three or four attempts to land before crashing into woodland nearby[/quote] :runningman:

#1360340Post 21 of 27

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Again I'm not saying this particular crash was a conspiracy.

You must realize by now Reso, even someone with limited brain capacity such as yourself, all you have to do is put a couple of witnesses in front of the camera and the world will believe it. It is called credibility. You should read a book on Marketing and Propaganda called "Made to Stick" you would learn a lot from that book on how the world of Marketing works. You take thins at face value to much because you don;t like to question things.

The media could say goblins came up from the earth and just grabbed them and took them to the underworld(with a look of disbelief from an eye witness) and the world would believe it. War of the Worlds proved it. The average person is quite stupid.

#1360342Post 22 of 27

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[QUOTE=runningman;851891]Again I'm not saying this particular crash was a conspiracy.[/QUOTE]

MS is not full of people who blindly accept things at face value, at least not from my experience. Get out of the politics section, shake some hands, chat with some of these folks ffs... "I feel like a broken record."

I hear the Martha Stewart.com message boards are chalk-full of zombies, why not setup shop over there, where critical thinking is still a new notion.

#1360348Post 23 of 27

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[QUOTE=runningman;851891][B][SIZE=5]Again I'm not saying this particular crash was a conspiracy.[/SIZE][/B]

.[/QUOTE]

good then post your condolences and STFU

#1360554Post 24 of 27

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[QUOTE=runningman;851891]It is called credibility.[/QUOTE]

The irony of you posting anything about credibility is frankly a bit overwhelming.

:ShootMe:

#1360557Post 25 of 27

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all i can say is.............. accidents happen! shoulda known this thread was doomed before i clicked on it.

[IMG]http://www.servicedepotonline.com/Portals/41767/images//Biker-Accident.jpg[/IMG]

#1360667Post 26 of 27

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Ya and according to most of the people on here accidents happen 100% of the time. ... and suicides.

Also everytime I have posted something it has been with a link to back it up. Just because you don't like the answer doens't make it untrue. I don't see you guys posting links at all. All I ever get is "common sense".. So I don't see how my credibility could ever be in question.

#1360673Post 27 of 27

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just because its on the internets doesnt make it automatically 'credible' if there is an http:// in front of it. have we not learned anything yet?

heres a link if you want one:

[URL]http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303828304575179541464058282.html?mod=WSJ_latestheadlines[/URL]

[quote] WARSAW—Poland's chief prosecutor said an initial examination of black boxes from the aircraft that crashed over the weekend, killing the Polish president and dozens of the country's top officials, showed no evidence that passengers instructed the pilots to land. ... Investigators appeared increasingly focused on pilot error as the likely cause of the crash. Polish and Russian officials both effectively ruled out technical error in the Russian-built Tupolev-154. Ninety-six people died in Saturday's accident, including the entire high command of the Polish military, Poland's central bank governor and national-security chief, and Mr. Kaczynski and his wife, Maria.[/quote]But I'm sure someone either threatened to kill the editor and reporters famlies at the WSJ if they didn't publish anything other than this right?

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