[ms] · Est. May 2002
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One of the makers from Loose Change is coming out with a new documentary called Invisible Empire. It comes out on April 15th so I'm sure it will be online for free shortly after the 15th. It is using mosly mainstream media talking points to put together the picture and who the players are.
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3Fo1zEjCRw&feature=player_embedded[/YOUTUBE]
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I love when threads come up that talk about Loose Change as a legit source. It allows me to quote Maddox and sum up in two quick paragraphs 9/11 conspiracy theories.
[URL]http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons[/URL]
[quote]
The man in the picture above is Dylan Avery. To be more precise, the fact that Dylan, his friends, and family are alive, is proof that "Loose Change" is bullshit. He, along with a couple of his friends, created a 9/11 conspiracy video claiming that the US government and the military caused 9/11. Take a closer look at the last part of that last sentence: he's claiming that the US government, for whatever ends, killed nearly 3,000 innocent Americans, and tens if not hundreds of thousands of more lives in the conflicts that ensued because of it.
Since Dylan's arguing that the government has no problem killing 3,000 innocent people, this raises the question: if his documentary is true, and we've established that the government has no ethical qualms about killing thousands of its own people, then why wouldn't the government kill Avery and his friends as well? What's a few more lives to them to ensure the success of this conspiracy?[/quote]
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that's right just dismiss it before you see it. You are good at that.
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i already watched it....short clips taken out of context. standard. thanks for not refuting my previous post also. ;)
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because they learnt that killing people martyred them.
William Cooper DC Madam Gary Webb
It is just better to call them crazy conspiracy theorists because once they are labelled that the general public will stay away in fear that the cooties can spread. You only kill them if a movement starts to form
Malcolm X Martin Luther King Jr. John Lennon JFK
It is kind of like that Ghandi quote with a bad ending
First they ignore you in hopes you just go away, then they laugh at you and mock you calling you crazy, then their conscious barrier forces them to fight you as the brain begins to accept new thoughts and realities, the only difference is instead of you winning they kill you as a means of last resort.
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[QUOTE=runningman;844889]because they learnt that killing people martyred them.[/QUOTE]
But since this was such a top down conspiracy why didn't the gov't kill them the first days after hearing about them even culling together grainy youtube footage with scary music? I guarantee 95% of America has no what Loose Change is or who made it even today, they could have snuffed these college kids out before anyone even heard of such a thing and kept this all under wraps. Since they could coordinate simlataneuous plane hijackings, this is trivial. :what
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also:
[QUOTE=runningman;844889]
Malcolm X[/quote]
killed by a few members of the nation of islam
[quote]Martin Luther King Jr.[/quote]
killed by a redneck.
[quote]John Lennon[/quote]
killed by a crazy guy
[quote]JFK[/quote]
well...the jury is still out on this one.
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^^HAHAAHA ya.... right... ya the lone wolf story.
you can't uninvent something. Once they released it to google video (and I'm sure to their friends in case they got whacked) they were untouchable. They don't want to marty them.
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[QUOTE=runningman;844905]you can't uninvent something. Once they released it to google video (and I'm sure to their friends in case they got whacked) they were untouchable. They don't want to marty them.[/QUOTE]
But why would the allmighty all powerful USA allow something so STUPID to happen? They would never let something like this out if they didn't want it to be out there, they would have gotten to them before they even had a chance to release it, so that logic is false.
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[QUOTE=runningman;844905]^^HAHAAHA ya.... right... ya the lone wolf story.
you can't uninvent something. Once they released it to google video (and I'm sure to their friends in case they got whacked) they were untouchable. They don't want to marty them.[/QUOTE]
The only one of those assassinations in doubt on who pulled the trigger is JFK, obviously.
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no you are false. From top to bottom.
They are all in doubt about who got them to do what they did.
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^plz xplain. the gov't can cause earthquakes in haiti, why cant it kill off a couple of high college students?
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[QUOTE=runningman;844910] They are all in doubt about who got them to do what they did.[/QUOTE]
plz xplain this2.
mark david chapman sat outside the crime scene and surrendered to police and confessed to the crime.
there is more shit being pulled out of more ass with your statements than this smiley: :mullered:
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I would just love to see for once you not eat up every statement from the Government. Is there anything at all that you don't believe them on?
Have you ever watched US vs John Lennon?
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Malcolm X
[URL]http://www.democracynow.org/2005/2/21/the_undiscovered_malcolm_x_stunning_new[/URL]
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plz xplain why the crazy guy who had ample evidence proving he did it, did not. haven't seen the film, but im sure it is about the US not liking his anti war stance, but I understand that since he was a very big public figure.
If you believe the US can Reach Out And Touch Someone so much why the hell are you doing all of this? You should be worred about the CIA pinching you out I would think, no?
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[QUOTE=runningman;844918]Malcolm X
[URL]http://www.democracynow.org/2005/2/21/the_undiscovered_malcolm_x_stunning_new[/URL][/QUOTE]
plz not 40 year old 2000 and late docs with STUNNING NEW EVIDENCEZ!!!1, how about quotes from cops and reporters on the scene the minutes after it happened? Pretty sure thats much more accurate, but alas, no top to bottom Illuminati in those stories. :(
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Martin Luther King jr.
He was under heavy FBI and CIA surveillance everyone knows that. James Earl Ray joined the Army at 15. He also denied shooting MLK.
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watch the film and you will know.
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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;844923]plz not 40 year old 2000 and late docs with STUNNING NEW EVIDENCEZ!!!1, how about quotes from cops and reporters on the scene the minutes after it happened? Pretty sure thats much more accurate, but alas, no top to bottom Illuminati in those stories. :([/QUOTE]
You see this is the stupid answer. It took nearly 50 years to get the papers on Operation Northwoods. They still won't let the JFK papers go either.. Why is that so hard to believe?
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[QUOTE=runningman;844926]Martin Luther King jr.
He was under heavy FBI and CIA surveillance everyone knows that. James Earl Ray joined the Army at 15. He also denied shooting MLK.[/QUOTE]
what does him joining the army have to do with anything? he joined to serve in wwii. who cares. he was a repeat criminal. you forget he actually confessed, but then recanted when he thought he could get a better deal. those damn details, they suck eh?
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CIA likes to recruit Veterans.
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUBOZtsyhfM[/YOUTUBE]
It;s only 4 mins I know you hate investigating stuff. A court ruled that there was a conspiracy by the gov't to kill MLK jr. The MSM just didn't cover the verdict.
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[URL]http://www.ratical.com/ratville/JFK/MLKactOstate.html[/URL]
[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1] [I]"The [URL="http://www.thekingcenter.com/tkc/trial.html"]entire trial is on the web site[/URL] of [URL="http://www.thekingcenter.com/"]the King Center[/URL]. It took the jury about one hour to find the Government liable through the actions of its agents. The identities of the shooter and James Earl Ray's handler, Raul, were also established. . . . So, John, it is not true that this case is open. It is open, officially, but unlike the other assassinations we know and have evidence of the details of the killing. The family believes that they are completely vindicated. Even the [/I][I]New York Times in a front page piece (never again mentioned, by their local reporter) acknowledged that members of the jury were quoted as saying that the evidence -- never before seen or heard or tested under oath -- was overwhelming. . . . Your analysis is correct. This type of [false] claim [of a supposed King assassination plotter that is not credible] distracts us from the overall coordinating role of Government and the powerful economic interests which decided that MLK had to be removed from the scene because of his increasingly effective opposition to the war and, perhaps, more significantly, his commitment to bring upwards of 500,000 of the wretched of America to Washington, not to march but to encamp and daily visit their elected representatives to demand the restoration of the social welfare/health and educational programs which had been severely, even terminally, cut in deference to the military budgetary increases. The Army knew that their demands would not be met, realized that the massive assemblage would likely become enraged and emerge as a revolutionary force in the nation's capitol -- the very belly of the beast -- and were fully aware that they did not have the troops available to put down the rebellion. (Remember, at the time, Westmoreland wanted another 200,000 for Vietnam and those were also not available). Hence, MLK had to be stopped. He would never be allowed to bring that alienated mass to Washington. A logistics officer in charge of troop movements and truck allocations at Fort Meade, passed word to me that on the morning of the assassination he was put on alert and told to be ready to bring the National Guard and other troops to Washington that afternoon. Martin King was shot at 6:01 PM. The troops were already on the move in anticipation of the rioting which was certain to break out when the news reached the capitol. "[/I][/SIZE][/FONT]
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you've been spending way too much time listening to Jesse Ventura.
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Florida prove me wrong.
This has absolutely nothing to do with Jesse Ventura. A trial happened. The verdict was that the US gov't conspired to kill MLK. That's it case closed. I'm right.
[URL]http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/stories/s93702.htm[/URL]
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I now know that there are people who don't even live in the USA that think the US government is up to all kinds of crazy shit that dont even register on sane peoples daily radar....Yes...
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are we talking about the MLK case or is this your swan song of defeat.. One last stand eh?
Yes I'm craxy because a jury in 1999 found that there was a conspiracy by the US gov't to kill MLK.
[URL]https://www.thekingcenter.org/KingCenter/Transcript_trial_info.aspx[/URL]
Now go watch US vs. John Lennon to learn more.
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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;844853]I love when threads come up that talk about Loose Change as a legit source. It allows me to quote Maddox and sum up in two quick paragraphs 9/11 conspiracy theories. [/QUOTE]
Because its a lot harder to kill someone once the cat is out of the bag but you keep quoting Maddox:lol:
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It came out today.. I haven't watched it yet but here it is.
[video=youtube;KcP81rBkJHw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcP81rBkJHw[/video]
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[QUOTE=runningman;844889]because they learnt that killing people martyred them.
William Cooper DC Madam Gary Webb
It is just better to call them crazy conspiracy theorists because once they are labelled that the general public will stay away in fear that the cooties can spread. You only kill them if a movement starts to form
Malcolm X Martin Luther King Jr. John Lennon JFK
It is kind of like that Ghandi quote with a bad ending
First they ignore you in hopes you just go away, then they laugh at you and mock you calling you crazy, then their conscious barrier forces them to fight you as the brain begins to accept new thoughts and realities, the only difference is instead of you winning they kill you as a means of last resort.[/QUOTE]
what about Bobby Kennedy?
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Oh ya I forgot about him. There are so many it is hard to remember them all.