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so you are saying he died in 2001, but they were going to hand him over in 2001 if we gave them enough info? confused. ok new thread.

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;844855]I don't think you are able to use this argument since you've dismissed the X number of independent witnesses on the ground that said they saw a plane hitting the Pentagon.[/QUOTE]

I'm not ignoring these witnesses. I pointed out in the past that I would like to see some of these peoples accounts. And how they explain certain aspects of their accounts.

I think there are some of them witnesses you would like to rule out. But then you refuse to even entertain their accounts. We have actually been through the witness accounts before. Like the news man who claimed the wings folded up

But then you choose to believe that there was only one camera on that area of the Pentagon that somehow managed to miss the plane because of the slow shutter speed. When in fact the plane passed by closer on 80 CCTV cameras in that area. If a plane had gone into the pentagon no matter how slow the shutter speed it would have been picked up on that traffic camera that must have been half a mile from the Pentagon. But you choose to believe that The Pentagon has worse CCTV that the bike shed where I work.

I think what you really want is it all to just go away so you don't have to think about it.

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;844915]Agreed. They are good guys, I'd hold them to their word. Maybe the guys that agreed to that accidently killed themselves while blowing themselves and random women and children up in a Baghdad market is why this hasn't happened. DAMNIT IM GOOD!!![/QUOTE]

Sorta like your Washington Snippier, Columbine Massacre. or all them other kranks you have running round the states having a bit of a shoot out.

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[QUOTE=chunky;845095] I think what you really want is it all to just go away so you don't have to think about it.[/QUOTE]

:Bingo:

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[QUOTE=chunky;845095]I'm not ignoring these witnesses. I pointed out in the past that I would like to see some of these peoples accounts. And how they explain certain aspects of their accounts.

I think there are some of them witnesses you would like to rule out. But then you refuse to even entertain their accounts. We have actually been through the witness accounts before. Like the news man who claimed the wings folded up

But then you choose to believe that there was only one camera on that area of the Pentagon that somehow managed to miss the plane because of the slow shutter speed. When in fact the plane passed by closer on 80 CCTV cameras in that area. If a plane had gone into the pentagon no matter how slow the shutter speed it would have been picked up on that traffic camera that must have been half a mile from the Pentagon. But you choose to believe that The Pentagon has worse CCTV that the bike shed where I work. [/QUOTE]

Thanks for forgetting physics again that an object traveling 800mph wont get picked up in 1080p on a shitty cctv camera. Oh well.

[QUOTE=chunky;845101]Sorta like your Washington Snippier, Columbine Massacre. or all them other kranks you have running round the states having a bit of a shoot out.[/QUOTE]

So random psycho assholes are the equivilant of taliban mujahideen fighters? Geez you are really reaching now to try and find any excuse to hate on the US.

[quote] I think what you really want is it all to just go away so you don't have to think about it.[/quote] [QUOTE=runningman;845123]:Bingo:[/QUOTE]

Nah, I'm just wishing to STOP THE IGNORANCE!!! Susan Powter style.

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;845132]Thanks for forgetting physics again that an object traveling 800mph wont get picked up in 1080p on a shitty cctv camera. Oh well. [/QUOTE]

There was a lot more than 1 camera. You seem to like avoiding that fact.

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Really? Any official reports? Either way if there was more than one camera, who cares? It still happened, I dont need a hidef version to make me sure what happened that day.

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;845136]Really? Any official reports? Either way if there was more than one camera, who cares? It still happened, I dont need a hidef version to make me sure what happened that day.[/QUOTE]

What your saying there was only one camerra unless you get an offical report:what I care a lot as it could clear this little matter up.

You stick to posting your silly pictures like some sado who when they cant put up a argument posts silly pictures instead.:lol:

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;845136]Really? Where. [/QUOTE]

What are you asking me where the cameras where :what

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[QUOTE=chunky;845139]What your saying there was only one camerra unless you get an offical report:what I care a lot as it could clear this little matter up.

You stick to posting your silly pictures like some sado who when they cant put up a argument posts silly pictures instead.:lol:[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=chunky;845142]What are you asking me where the cameras where :what[/QUOTE]

So....no plane hit the Pentagon then which is what you don't believe, or is it just you want more footage? Can't keep the sillyness in this forum straight.

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;845152]So....no plane hit the Pentagon then which is what you don't believe, or is it just you want more footage? Can't keep the sillyness in this forum straight.[/QUOTE]

I dont know what you find silly:what No I don't believe a plane hit the Pentagon and I think the footage could clear the mater up. You talk about sillyness but you believe there is only one camera covering that part of the Pentagon. OK we will throw it open

[COLOR=red]Who else thinks there is only one camera covering that side of the pentagon[/COLOR] :lol:

[QUOTE=res0nat0r;845132] So random psycho assholes are the equivilant of taliban mujahideen fighters? Geez you are really reaching now to try and find any excuse to hate on the US. [/QUOTE]

I like the way you constantly try to brand me as Racist, Fascist, Holocaust Denier. Fuck me you will be signing me up for the Ku Klux Clan next. It got nothing to do with patriotism or nationalism. Its like some knee jerk reaction. (Miro's man did the same thing with Steven Jones on TV when he was losing the debate). I don't blame American people, how can I there are plenty of them that hold the same view as I do. The problem really comes down to your government and their actions. nothing to do with the citizens.

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This quote:

[quote] I don't blame American people, how can I there are plenty of them that hold the same view as I do. The problem really comes down to your government and their actions. nothing to do with the citizens.[/quote]Totally contradicts this quote:

[QUOTE=chunky;845101]Sorta like your Washington Snippier, Columbine Massacre. or all them other kranks you have running round the states having a bit of a shoot out.[/QUOTE]

I can restate it again since it seems to have been ignored. Those dipshits above have nothing to do with US policy or the gov't.

[QUOTE=chunky;845170]I dont know what you find silly:what No I don't believe a plane hit the Pentagon and I think the footage could clear the mater up. You talk about sillyness but you believe there is only one camera covering that part of the Pentagon. OK we will throw it open . [/QUOTE]

How about, the building was built in the 1940's, meaning it is 70 years old. This is the US gov't. My local bar has better security than most outdated gov't shit, unfortunately since you don't live here you don't know how much bullshit goes on with the US gov't. So totally believable that there are no cameras covering every square inch of this building.

It is almost at wide as the Empire State Building is tall.

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/FOxUcl.jpg[/IMG]

I doubt there is just one camera per side of the building, most likely multiple, but this was the only one that actually saw anything. Probably not too many truck bombs are going to be driving thru the grass and barriers that surround the building eh? The high security was at the gates since this is where it was expected people would try and drive thru and blow up. Nobody expected any planes flying at the sides of the building, so therefore no need for 5000 camera to be installed on each side to try and squelch conspiracy theorists.

Issue resolved.

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Ya your right.. They probably don't have 360 degree cameras at the DoD. It is only the DoD. I mean it's like that doesn't have to be safe right? They wouldn't expect attacks at the DoD right?

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I just gave a perfectly good explanation why not. Cameras != security against truck bombs or airplanes. I'm sure the entrances were/are even more now extremely well fortified where the gov't thought people were going to try and attack from.

Logic fail.

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do you have anything to back up your theory?

Of course not because you work by "common sense" logic. Do you understand that isn't a science? Common sense is nothing other than what mainstream media pushes on the public to be common sense or also called "social belief" or even "social pressures"...

Believing that your gov't had absolutely no part is ridiculous.

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well fucking put, Res.

quit whining about America, folks; shit's a mess, forsure, and blame games don't help nada

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[QUOTE=runningman;845204]do you have anything to back up your theory? [/QUOTE]

Nope, just logical thinking. Do you? :lol:

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[QUOTE=runningman;845204]social belief" or even "social pressures"... [/QUOTE]

no 'social beliefs', or 'social pressures'.

09/11/01:

planes in air. planes hit buildings. buildings damaged by planes. plane hits ground. planes destroyed. done.

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I love it. With absolutely no scientific data.

1000 Architects and engineers love being called conspiracy theorists and a possible enemy of the state. They are probably doing it for the fame.. ya.. that's it.. they have phd's and have vast experience and they trade it all away for a tin hat and for to people accuse them of being crazy..

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[QUOTE=runningman;845251]I love it. With absolutely no scientific data.

[COLOR=Red]A handful of[/COLOR] Architects and engineers [COLOR=Red]who've been already discredited by the majority of their peers[/COLOR] love being called conspiracy theorists and a possible enemy of the state. They are probably doing it for the fame.. ya.. that's it.. they have phd's and have vast experience and they trade it all away for a tin hat and for to people accuse them of being crazy..[/QUOTE]

Fixed.

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If there is one thing that we have all know is that you should never try to correct my information.

[URL]http://www.ae911truth.org/info/175[/URL]

[URL="http://www.ae911truth.org/info/175"] [LEFT][COLOR=#1C246F][B]1,000 Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth signatures press conference ignored by world media[/B][/COLOR][/LEFT] [/URL]
— Sterling Allan

   [I]Originally posted on [URL="http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-8199-Breakthrough-Energy-Examiner%7Ey2010m2d25-1000-Architects-and-Engineers-for-911-Truth-signatures-press-conference-ignored-by-world-media"]examiner.com[/URL][/I]       

[IMG]http://www.ae911truth.org/images/other/lawyerexaminer.jpg[/IMG]On Feb. 19, 2010, Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth held a [URL="http://www.ae911truth.org/actionalerts/2010/02/action_1000_PC_update.php"]press conference[/URL] at the Mariner's Club & Hotel in San Francisco, CA, USA, announced the milestone of having achieved in excess of 1,000 signatures from architects and engineers from around the world, demanding a new, truly independent investigation of the facts regarding the events of Sept. 11, 2001, saying that the conclusions drawn by the 911 Commission reek of cover-up, are not at all supported by the facts.

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how many different threads are you guys going to talk about the same 9.11 shit? i could start a thread on small gas engines in the politic section and after page 5 it would end up about 9.11. way to rehash the same shit over and over and over.

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yah you are right. im going to stop now.:AssKicki:

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;845198]This quote:

Totally contradicts this quote: .[/QUOTE]

No really I don't see the difference between the action of random individuals in a country and brand the whole population as the same. Its like this support the troops nonsense. To quote Dug Stanhope some troops are arse holes I don't support them ones.

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;845198] Issue resolved.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=res0nat0r;845261]Fixed.[/QUOTE]

Why do you keep posting this shit. You are looking like an A grade arse hole. your only pretending to yourself but editing other peoples posts and pretending to close a thread.:lol:

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;845198]

How about, the building was built in the 1940's, meaning it is 70 years old. This is the US gov't. My local bar has better security than most outdated gov't shit, unfortunately since you don't live here you don't know how much bullshit goes on with the US gov't. So totally believable that there are no cameras covering every square inch of this building.

It is almost at wide as the Empire State Building is tall.

[COLOR=red]I doubt[/COLOR] there is just one camera per side of the building, most likely multiple, but this was the only one that actually saw anything. Probably not too many truck bombs are going to be driving thru the grass and barriers that surround the building eh? The high security was at the gates since this is where it was expected people would try and drive thru and blow up. Nobody expected any planes flying at the sides of the building, so therefore no need for 5000 camera to be installed on each side to try and squelch conspiracy theorists.

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[COLOR=red]You doubt[/COLOR] so you dont know. There where eighty two camera where confiscated from that area of the pentagon and the camera you mention didn't catch anything. Now I will point this out again as you keep ignoring it. The traffic camera from the road about quarter of a mile from the Pentagon had a fill clear view of the whole of that area. If you think about the panoramic view that camera had it would of picked up the aircraft as would the footage from the near by hotel 800 mile an hour or not.

Even stranger logic the Pentagon was built in the 1940's so the security system was out of date. The White House was built in 1800 probably before Telephones, Computers, Inside Toilets, CCTV, Broadband, TV.. but I think its safe to say that The White House has all these things. Out dated security system. :roflmao: Oh but I wouldnt know because I dont live there.

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[QUOTE=Jenks;845323]how many different threads are you guys going to talk about the same 9.11 shit? i could start a thread on small gas engines in the politic section and after page 5 it would end up about 9.11. way to rehash the same shit over and over and over.[/QUOTE]

Because not talking about it is letting it go away. And there are plenty of people who feel a great injustice occurred and are not willing to bury it in the past.

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[QUOTE=chunky;845485]Because not talking about it is letting it go away. And there are plenty of people who feel a great injustice occurred and are not willing to bury it in the past.[/QUOTE]

how about talk about it in THE 9.11 thread, or pick any one of the hundred 9.11 threads, instead of jacking every thread that isn't about 9.11 and end up talking about nine fucking eleven. :deadhorse:

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[QUOTE=Jenks;845601]how about talk about it in THE 9.11 thread, or pick any one of the hundred 9.11 threads, instead of jacking every thread that isn't about 9.11 and end up talking about nine fucking eleven. :deadhorse:[/QUOTE]

Well for a start I didn't jack this thread. my first post regarding 9/11 was post 23. This thread is about false flag operations and 9/11 is probably regarded as the biggest false flag operation ever (depending on who's account you want to believe) so is directly related to the subject mater. You can also merge it with the 9/11 threads if you want:roll: The purpose of the thread was regarding the extremes some people in a government are willing to go to to suit their own agenda. If your offended because I don't believe the Pentagon was using antique CCTV or passenger planes vaporize in seconds ban me.

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9/11 was orchestrated by a much more nefarious lodge; the exoteric gov was simply the pawn in a dangerous game.

this thread is about kennedy. that. is. all.

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Chunky I heard a rumor that the Pentagon was using VHS and when they went to look over the 80 tapes they accidently got chewed up... fucking sucks I hate it when that happens, I guess we will never know.:lol:

I love how people can be so nieve that they would believe that the Pentagon wouldn't have its own radar system and missile defence systems.. I mean they are only the DoD what do they know about security?

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Nah I think the man who takes the cap off the lens was on his tea break.

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oh no, here we call it a coffee break :Smiley:

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[QUOTE=chunky;845618] If your offended[/QUOTE]

:lol: um. no, bro.

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[URL]http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local-beat/Synagogue-Bomb-Suspects-The-Feds-Put-Us-Up-to-It-88579537.html[/URL]

Defense attorneys say an alleged plot to bomb New York synagogues was hatched and directed by a federal informant. Lawyers for four men from Newburgh have filed a motion to dismiss the terror indictment against them. [COLOR=Red]They said the informant badgered the defendants until they got involved in the plot. They said the informant chose the targets, supplied fake bombs for the synagogues and a fake missile to shoot down planes.[/COLOR] The motion said he also offered to pay the defendants, who attorneys alleged weren't inclined toward any crime until the informant began recruiting them

The government well knew that their case had been a government-inspired creation from day one and that the defendants had not been independently seeking weapons or targets," the motion said.

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Of course they are going to say that, now that they are fucked and arrested. Don't you know every guy in jail is innocent? :lol:

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I am not saying this exact story is correct I was bringing to attention that another story has the Feds being accused.

I mean shit Reso a jury could find the US gov't guilty and you still woudn't believe anyway.