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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;846151]dipshit read my previous post. small group of people did that, yes. authorized by Rummy himself, no.[/QUOTE]

I like the way you some how seem to think that random insults strengthens your case. I did read your previous post.

You did that stupid thread ending nonsense again that you also like "we mite just consider this case-closed" or "dont even try and say that was sanctioned in upper levels" that type of shit. You want to listen to yourself. You sound like some kid who puts his hands on his ears and waggles his tongue because he doesn't want to hear what hes been told.

[COLOR=red]You still haven't told me the name of the credible documentary or what Chanel was it on yet ? I'[/COLOR]

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[QUOTE=chunky;846148]Where did they learn this then. This is a text book form of torture that is illegal
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[QUOTE=chunky;846153] [COLOR=red]You still haven't told me the name of the credible documentary or what Chanel was it on ?[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

I already told you when you brought up this stupid conspiracy bullshit in the other thread.

[url]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0896866/[/url]

Standard Operating Procedure by Errol Morris.

From that first quote, it sounds like you are drawing your own conclusions without any evidence. You are assuming that this was a top down sanctioned thing because you want to hate on everything the US does in Iraq so much, so good job picking and choosing on this one without and direct evidence. Ignore what you don't like, misunderstand, misquote and latch on to what you do.

Your logic is like Jeffy from The Family Circus when he wants do go wander around town. Since this is a US comic, I'll enlighten you:

[IMG]http://imgur.com/6mtrt.jpg[/IMG]

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I've seen this documentary I dont remember it indicating that it was just 12 random people acting alone. Its on youtube and I'm watching it now. I Like the scary music at the start

[video=youtube;YooG1hrPNNg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YooG1hrPNNg[/video]

You back on the photos again

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Those folks got caught up in a bad situation and acted VERY improperly and it probably did more damage to the US reputation than about anything else I'm sure just because the photos are so disturbing and goes against what we were supposed to be doing.

He won an Oscar for his previous flick about Vietnam with his interviews with McNamara. It is a very good and frank flick of just him talking to the camera 90% of the time too.

[URL]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0317910/[/URL]

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Have you watched even the first 10 minutes of this film. Rumsfeld leaves General Miller arrives

[QUOTE] The guru of interrogation obtaining actionable intelligence he was going to gitmoize the operation

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;846158]Those folks got caught up in a bad situation and acted VERY improperly and it probably did more damage to the US reputation than about anything else I'm sure just because the photos are so disturbing and goes against what we were supposed to be doing.

He won an Oscar for his previous flick about Vietnam with his interviews with McNamara. It is a very good and frank flick of just him talking to the camera 90% of the time too.

[URL]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0317910/[/URL][/QUOTE]

I've see that before. great film. :lol:

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See previous photograph re: your logic. These soldiers didn't do what was in those photos per a gov't authorized program to stack them naked and best the fuck out of them. :roflmao:

Why would it go that far, you (maybe you haven't in the alternate universe you are in) have seen the damage those pics have done to the US military.

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;846161]See previous photograph re: your logic. These soldiers didn't do what was in those photos per a gov't authorized program to stack them naked and best the fuck out of them. :roflmao:

Why would it go that far, you (maybe you haven't in the alternate universe you are in) have seen the damage those pics have done to the US military.[/QUOTE]

Your post is virtually unreadable. The purpose of the naked people was to humiliate them. I was going to post this in my previous thread but I will put it here now its from your film

[QUOTE]The guru of interrogation obtaining actionable intelligence he was going to gitmoize the operation. Contract interrogators military people who had experience in Afghanistan and Guantanamo. The all arrive after Millers visit he gives them an in brief hes not afraid to say treat them like dogs they have to know you are in control [/QUOTE]

[IMG]http://blog.reidreport.com/uploaded_images/abu-ghraib-leash-715453.jpg[/IMG]

Your not going to close the thread again are you? Just checking

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[QUOTE=chunky;846165]Your post is virtually unreadable. The purpose of the naked people was to humiliate them. I was going to post this in my previous thread but I will put it here now its from your film

Your not going to close the thread again are you? Just checking[/QUOTE]

Since I've said the same thing 3x in a row and you don't understand or acknowlede that it exists it I'm not wasting any more of my life in this thread. :roflmao:

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You seem to think if you keep saying its the truth you can make us believe it. Your video hasn't really strengthened your argument either

[QUOTE]The guru of interrogation and obtaining actionable intelligence, he was going to gitmoize the operation, contract interrogators military people who had experience in Afghanistan and Guantanamo. The all arrive after Millers visit he gives them an in brief hes not afraid to say treat them like dogs they have to know you are in control [/QUOTE]

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The CIA created AIDS and Cancer.

There I said it.

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;846161][COLOR=red]best[/COLOR] the fuck out of them [/QUOTE]

Is there a typo in there or is this a US slang word :what

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[QUOTE=chunky;846172]You seem to think if you keep saying it the truth you can make us believe it.[/QUOTE]

you just said a mouth full right there buddy :)

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;846176]you just said a mouth full right there buddy :)[/QUOTE]

Thanks I missed the S. I've fixed it now. :lol: I recon since they are making all these silly changes to the forum they should remove [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/editpost.php?do=editpost&p=846178"][IMG]http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/images/buttons/edit.gif[/IMG][/URL] from the politics forum.

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I've seen this film before I've watch the first 40 minutes again I've got to be honest I really cant see how you can think this is the actions of 12 individuals from that film. Check out 9 minutes 04 seconds to 10 minutes. I'm guessing the THEY she is referring to is the MI that general Miller brought in. I've got some other points as well

[YOUTUBE]XJyyB-n5VQ0[/YOUTUBE]

You want to watch Taxi To The Darkside. Its a lot more in depth.

[URL]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0854678/[/URL]

[URL]http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-2987535946644608661&ei=4i-pS5RszKv4BtHY2bAF&q=taxi+to+the+dark+side&hl=en[/URL]#

I will watch the rest tomorrow :p

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;846174]The CIA created AIDS and Cancer.

There I said it.[/QUOTE]

You forgot the crack epidemic.

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[QUOTE=runningman;846046]hahaha.. hick like.

Spoken like a true TO person. What language do they speak up there in toronto now? It sure as hell isn't english or french. The only difference between Shanghai and Toronto is the CN tower.[/quote]

See? This is what I mean by hick like - your thinly veiled racism that keeps popping up in your posts.

[quote] You couldn't pay me enough money to move that rat nest. I especially love the rent in TO $1500 for a single bed rat nest apartment... ohh yes you have it great up there....:lol:[/quote]

With you lacking any kind of a degree (because, you know, it would be "giving in to the man"), I'm highly doubting you could afford a place here. So yeah, keep enjoying living in the sticks that's London - I'm sure the next tractor pull or the minor league hockey game is a fascinating night life to enjoy. You know, on the off nights that you and your friends in the Klan decide not to meet up.

[quote] What credibility does the 9/11 commision have when 6 out of the 10 commissioners don't even believe the story? God I guess every country has its idiots.[/quote]

Doesn't mean that a group of peeps that appoint themselves the name of "Truthers" has any more credibility. It's like choosing which is a better meal - hospital food or airline food. Either case doesn't really do the job

[quote]PS - They didn't call themselves truthers that was propaganda made up by the MSM. They are called 9/11 Truth. just like Birth'ers it is so simple minded folk like yourself can lump them all into one group.[/QUOTE]

9/11 Truth. Holy fuck. That makes all the difference in the world. They're still scrambling for credibility by their name alone and failing large.

I'm all for questioning shit when there's strange circumstances, but when hicks like you come out of the woodwork, insisting that they're "enlightened" and that they're in tune with what's going on, but unable to articulate anything in the way of a counter argument other than "I reject your argument and substitute it for my own reality (please find enclosed random internet link)", it just distorts shit beyond belief. What's to say that your "sources" are any more credible than the sources you're debunking so furiously on a regular basis? What oversights are there to ensure you're getting accurate data and that they're following any kind of actual fact gathering procedures before publishing it?

And seriously. An AM 640 being the source of proof that most believe it's an inside job? El Oh El.

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I love it another no link (no background) person on here.. Let me guess you're right because it is common sense right?

well I had to miss the Klan meeting this week because I was busy denying the holocaust instead. Next week is UFO week. Klan week is the week after that.

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but when hicks like you come out of the woodwork, insisting that they're "enlightened" and that they're in tune with what's going on, but unable to articulate anything in the way of a counter argument other than "I reject your argument and substitute it for my own reality (please find enclosed random internet link)"[/QUOTE]

haha great summary on :runningman:

[IMG]http://doesitallmatter.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/i-lold.jpg[/IMG]

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[QUOTE=Highsteppa;846212]I'm all for questioning shit when there's strange circumstances, but when hicks like you come out of the woodwork, insisting that they're "enlightened" and that they're in tune with what's going on, but unable to articulate anything in the way of a counter argument other than "I reject your argument and substitute it for my own reality (please find enclosed random internet link)", it just distorts shit beyond belief. What's to say that your "sources" are any more credible than the sources you're debunking so furiously on a regular basis? What oversights are there to ensure you're getting accurate data and that they're following any kind of actual fact gathering procedures before publishing it? [/QUOTE]

Funny I question you 5 pages ago and you still haven't responded

[QUOTE]Which part of this stands up to rational thought? buildings that just fall down. Scientific theories that couldn't be recreated. Vaporising aircraft, Antique CCTV. buildings dropping at near free fall speed. Witness testimonies not released to the public. Alleged terrorist leaders saying I didn't then no I dint do it then I did it again What part of 9/11 have we had concrete proof of.[/QUOTE]

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Need to watch this film. I forgot it was on More4 last night.

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[QUOTE=chunky;846420]Funny I question you 5 pages ago and you still haven't responded[/QUOTE]

Probably because it wasn't really worth addressing.

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[QUOTE=Highsteppa;847306]Probably because it wasn't really worth addressing.[/QUOTE]

Big on questions, not so big on answers. Keep yer head buried in the sand :lol:

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Highsteppa do you not think the CIA was involved in the Crack epidemic? I see a little joke at the top of the page.

Ever heard of Freeway Ricky Ross/Iran Contra?

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[QUOTE=chunky;847502]Big on questions, not so big on answers. Keep yer head buried in the sand :lol:[/QUOTE]

Will do sweetheart. You just keep making sure that the tinfoil hat is kept firmly on your head. Might wanna consider a chipstrap for that bad boy.

[QUOTE=runningman;847525]Highsteppa do you not think the CIA was involved in the Crack epidemic? I see a little joke at the top of the page.

Ever heard of Freeway Ricky Ross/Iran Contra?[/QUOTE]

I think you're often trying desperately to win a battle of credibility and respect...and losing horribly.

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So are you debating me on the Crack Epidemic or are you just dismissing that comment because you realized you were wrong?

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[QUOTE=Highsteppa;847598]Will do sweetheart. You just keep making sure that the tinfoil hat is kept firmly on your head. Might wanna consider a chipstrap for that bad boy. [/QUOTE]

You gotta love you so called "Rational Thinkers". No substance just wise cracks holding on tightly to your belief the US government could do such a horrible thing. :lol:

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[QUOTE=chunky;847679]You gotta love you so called "Rational Thinkers". No substance just wise cracks holding on tightly to your belief the US government could do such a horrible thing. :lol:[/QUOTE]

i actually do believe the govt could do such a thing, i've just stopped giving a shit because i can't do anything about it, and they're not really getting in my way.

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^^ Oh another loser mentality.. Imagine if Washington just said "well the British are going to tax us more, what can I do about it... What a loser you are!!..Jenks I never took you as a Flight guy? When did you cut your nuts off and ship them to the gov't?

It's true there is an epidemic going on in the US but it isn't obesity. It is a SERIOUS lack of self esteem

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Most British people have the same ideal. The say both the Conservatives & Labour are the same so these no point in voting. They never fight for anything because they think they cant win. You only have to look at businesses that have taken advantage of economic slow down to exploit workforce in the last 2 years. You look at the media around these two strikes and the emphasis is on the people who cant fly or take the train. You hear little of the strikers and what they are protesting for. Its like I told my boss if people cant run a business without exploiting their employees the business isn't viable.

Workers rights have gone back 25 years in 18 months

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What do you want me to do, go protest? Fucking soap box to 10 people on a Messageboard? Lol. Riiiiiiiight. No thanks.

Nah bro, I'll continue doing what I do. You lead the fight dude, I've got money to make and a party to go to.

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^this

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that is exactly the reason why your country is destined to fail.. Your view of protesting you think is meaningless and that only crazy people do it. What you don't realize is that your money is going to be worthless which in turn will make your parties really lame.. But soot yourself.

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Wrong again. I don't think protesting is meaningless. I'm just not going to do it, because, like I said, dollar bills to be had and champagne to be poured son. When a tank rolls down my street I'll pick up arms, until then, I'm driving the lane and dunking on snivvlers. Oh just in time, It's happy hour.... I'm out.

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[QUOTE=Jenks;847700]What do you want me to do, go protest? Fucking soap box to 10 people on a Messageboard? Lol. Riiiiiiiight. No thanks.

Nah bro, I'll continue doing what I do. You lead the fight dude, I've got money to make and a party to go to.[/QUOTE]

During the World Cup my company was worried that it would show the matches at work to stop people taking time off work to watch it. They decided that we would all stop working, watch the England games then make the hours up in unpaid overtime. It balloted the whole company to see if they would agree to it. The company lost the vote so it decided that all the people who didn't vote votes would count as votes in favor of watching the game. Turning their failure into a victory. I told my bosses that I would not comply with this as I was not employed to watch football matches and we shouldn't even of voted on it. The company told me they would do exactly what they wanted and that I had no choice but to comply. I told them I had taken some legal advice (which the company paid for) and explained the procedure going to take. The company knew I was serious as they where aware I helped expose my previous employer on national TV years earlier. I came into work on the day of the match in question and the company canceled their broadcast. I was the only one out of 4000 employees who was willing to take on the company. Everyone else made lots of noise but ran away when they had to do something.

While this went on I still managed to go out, get pussy, get pissed, earn money and all the other shit that people do in their lives :lol:

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damn Chunky! You have some Nuts that's for sure. What a story.

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Funny thing was they didn't show the match and England won so they got through to the next round without needing to win the third match. I wasn't at work for the third match and they broadcast it even though no one wanted to watch it because they where already through. Everyone stayed at work and did 2 hours overtime for nothing. I don't go to work to get forced to watch fucking football

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On March 20, a coalition of communist groups, 9/11 "Truth" activists and anti-Israel extremists gathered in San Francisco to protest against -- well, just about everything.

The event was in theory an "anti-war" rally timed to coincide with the seventh anniversary of the start of the Iraq War, but since that war is basically over, the anti-war movement now has not only evaporated almost completely but has also lost its focus, as a plethora of tangential issues and petty gripes have taken center stage.

And so, without the veneer of faux-pacifism to disguise the protesters' true feelings, one stance has emerged as the unifying philosophy:

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[QUOTE=greekmark1234;914812]

The event was in theory an "anti-war" rally timed to coincide with the seventh anniversary of the start of the Iraq War, but since that war is basically over, the anti-war movement now has not only evaporated almost completely but has also lost its focus, as a plethora of tangential issues and petty gripes have taken center stage. [/QUOTE]

Gunning down Iraqi civilians from gun ships. torturing civilians or preventing freedom of travel. I would hardly say the war is over, we have just moved everything around a bit. My brother-in-law is in Afghanistan at the moment and he's not on holiday.

Also the 9/11 Truth movement are campaigning about 9/11 not the war in Iraq, so even if the war is perceived to be over 9/11 Truth certainly isnt.

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