some dissident that now lives in london, called for peaceful demonstrations against the monarchy that is the saudi royal family. before the people could even get to the protest, they were arrested by the saudi police. a fucking shame that people in the world cant voice thier opinions. the only thing that should you shouldnt be allowed to say is the the things that security relies on. (i.e. the names of a CIA agent etc.) but these fucking morons who are destroying the world view of the middle east should all be put on a spaceship and sent to the moon.

The tyrannical regimes will eventually topple. It's only a matter of time.

[quote=cosmo]The tyrannical regimes will eventually topple. It's only a matter of time.[/quote]

Not when they're propped up by the West... :roll:

[quote=mixu][quote=cosmo]The tyrannical regimes will eventually topple. It's only a matter of time.[/quote]

Not when they're propped up by the West... :roll:[/quote]

And China.... And Italy.... And Japan.... And Germany...

:roll:

You mean 'does buisness with', not propped up. They were the most powerful family to begin with.

It will be dealt with in time.

I agree that it's going to be hard to bring democracy (true democracy) in Saudi the royal family is very well connected and has secured itself very well against any rebellions .. as always if anything happens it calls for help from outside .. but i see some some real drastic changes in teh middle east in the upcoming decade or two

o and about that rebellions have made this channel that displays all the dirty hiden shit about the royal family but oftenly it's cut and no real faces of people could be shown there .. but again someday light is gonna show

Cosmo...most people count Europe among the West...including me.

The West is still trading and making deals with the Saudi's, so I don't expect that situation to change soon.

[quote=Yao]Cosmo...most people count Europe among the West...including me.

The West is still trading and making deals with the Saudi's, so I don't expect that situation to change soon.[/quote]

Of course, but usually they mean the United States as 'The West'. Specifically in these cases, being that we are fighting groups in the middle east.

If I meant to say the US then I would have said the US... I specifically said the West because it's hardly fair to single out the US when they're all at it.

And 'doing business with' is pretty much the same as 'propping up' in this case ? Saudi Arabia is the world's largest producer of oil and has one of the world's worst human rights records but you don't see any of the G8 countries kicking up too much fuss. They'll only step in if things start looking unstable and that won't happen if people can't even express opinions without getting locked up. :evil: