Can you feel the change? Warrantless wiretaps, can be thrown in jail indefinetly.. Oh yes the change is upon us.

[URL]http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/09/obama-backs-expiring-patriot-act-spy-provisions/[/URL]

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the patriot act is a joke...so vague in its descriptions. This is no surprise - same shit different day. Its probably because the US people trust their government so much...lol

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[QUOTE=Shpira;789440] Its probably because the US people trust their government so much...lol[/QUOTE]

:lol::lol:

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^ compared to our counterparts, we the people do.

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;789465]^ compared to our counterparts, we the people do.[/QUOTE]

I'm dumb...what be the counterparts?

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^lorn you're not dumb as far as you know :lol:

jk of course ;);)

I made a comment that I have a theory that US citizens probably trust their government more than other countries, since then, I'm thinking there are definitely countries that trust their gov't more than we do here.

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ya but Florida you guys are supposed to be the beacon remember. If you guys get corrupted beyond control then what hope do the rest of us have?

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;789473]^lorn your not dumb as far as you know :lol:

jk of course ;);)

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Actually, its a relief knowing I'm dumb. At least I don't have to pretend intelligence like the rest. :p

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^ you know I was jk man, I don't think you are dumb at all :Smiley:

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;789503]^ you know I was jk man, I don't think you are dumb at all :Smiley:[/QUOTE]

Yes. Its all in good fun. :)

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[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x-Yt-MZ8fY[/YOUTUBE]

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looks like obama just ripped up the constitution as well... great. =\

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Wow - Obama is pissing off the right and the left wing.

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well, here's some change:

[URL]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090917/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_us_missile_defense[/URL]

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^ i don't know a lot about the missle defense, but that plan sounds like it's solely geared towards defending from iran. does obama not think there are other nations out there that are a threat to us? what about russia? what about china? north korea? i understand diplomatic ties, but eh.... i don't know.

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this probably just means they are going to scrap the old plans and put double as many missiles in the future.

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[URL]http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article23570.htm[/URL]

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSXMW2FMC7A&feature=player_embedded#t=258[/YOUTUBE]

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How about [SIZE=4][B]"Patriot Pact"[/B][/SIZE] Bamer must have found some of Bushs secret stash....

What do you want to hear that will make me look good? I mean damn good!!:boobaby:

[URL="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1430799/posts"][SIZE=+1][COLOR=black][B]Obama's stand against Patriot Act cheered (by librarians)[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/URL] [B][URL="http://www.freerepublic.com/%5Ehttp://www.bakersfield.com/24hour/nation/story/2511040p-10875707c.html"]Bakersfield Californian ^[/URL] [/B] | 6/25/05 | Carla K. Johnson - AP Posted on [B]Saturday, June 25, 2005 11:24:10 PM[/B] by [URL="http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Enormsrevenge/"][COLOR=black][B]NormsRevenge[/B][/COLOR][/URL] CHICAGO (AP) - To the cheers of thousands of librarians, U.S. Sen. Barack Obama on Saturday called for the Senate to rewrite the USA Patriot Act to prevent investigators from scanning library records and bookstore sales slips. Libraries should be "sanctuaries of learning where we are free to read and consider what we please without the fear that 'Big Brother' may be peering over our shoulder," Obama said in the keynote address at the American Library Association's annual conference. Last week, despite a White House veto threat, the U.S. House of Representatives voted to restrict investigators from using the anti-terrorism law in libraries and book stores. Obama said he hopes the Senate follows suit. "I hope we can pass a provision, just like the one that the House of Representatives passed overwhelmingly, that would require federal agents to get search warrants from a real judge in a real court, just like everyone else does," Obama said. The conference, which runs in Chicago through Wednesday, drew more than 13,000 attendees, some of whom will discuss strategies for amending the Patriot Act, which was passed by Congress in the days following Sept. 11, 2001. One attendee, Merryll Penson, executive director for library services for the University System of Georgia, said librarians "are not people who want to help terrorists," but want to see reading lists protected from automatic surveillance. "For a lot of librarians, it's the principle," she said.

[SIZE=7][COLOR=Pink]DO I NEED TO POINT IT OUT OR IS IT NOT OBVIOUS?[/COLOR][/SIZE]

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whatever obama says expect the exact opposite. I mean literally 180 degrees opposite.

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here's some 'change' too.

Senate Hate-Crimes Bill - signed.

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[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcsUXjeuTmU[/YOUTUBE]

Ya great..:hooray: