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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;956035]So common sense is missing from you both on this one? Just because it means some insidious rich white people weren't behind it from the beginning huh? Fail.[/QUOTE]

Is that the same common sense that told you Bush wasn't complicit in torture Res0 of your antique CCTV theory.

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maybe its because we don't have a Belief System, whatever the fuck that is

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Suggesting that classified files were not released when an act of war was taken against the US is one thing. Suggesting the government is actually behind the act of war is another.

What I initially found fascinating was how eager individuals from outside the US were to gobble up the story presented by internet conspiracy theorists ... which in return suggests that although America is the leader of the free world, probably 1/4 of individuals living outside the US don't trust the US to the extent that they would literally kill their own citizens by masterminding an attack on NYC. That is what I found astonishing. Then this thread turned in to what it turned into, a place for 2 sometimes 3 members to fight for their right to think critically and question everything. I'm all for questing things and I agree that things are RARELY what they seem. But to assume the Bush presidency planned 9/11 is another thing entirely.

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[QUOTE=chunky;956041]Is that the same common sense that told you Bush wasn't complicit in torture Res0 of your antique CCTV theory.[/QUOTE]

nothing to do with the science that clearly explained why it fell. fail.

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;956055]nothing to do with the science that clearly explained why it fell. fail.[/QUOTE]

Ah fuck you're not back on the science again are you Res0. The fact that you don't see a conflict in the science says it all.

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[QUOTE=chunky;956073]Ah fuck you're not back on the science again are you Res0. The fact that you don't see a conflict in the science says it all.[/QUOTE]

The conflict lies in what our government deems classified and non-classified. When it comes to 9/11 every nuance and fine detail, picture, video, etc should be available for the world to see. I commend our government for being able to keep the information classified actually.

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;956075]The conflict lies in what our government deems classified and non-classified. When it comes to 9/11 every nuance and fine detail, picture, video, etc should be available for the world to see. I commend our government for being able to keep the information classified actually.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=chunky;956073]Ah fuck you're not back on the science again are you Res0. The fact that you don't see a conflict in the science says it all.[/QUOTE]

no conflict. you just dont understand what ur reading ;)

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;956079]no conflict. you just dont understand what ur reading ;)[/QUOTE]

No problem understanding it. Are you saying Underwriters Laboratories could weaken the steel enough for the collapse when they tried to recreate what happened in the furnaces.

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;956079]no conflict. you just dont understand what ur reading ;)[/QUOTE]

Maybe its because I don't have a belief system in place;)

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[QUOTE=chunky;956081]No problem understanding it. Are you saying Underwriters Laboratories could weaken the steel enough for the collapse when they tried to recreate what happened in the furnaces.[/QUOTE]

massive fucking fail.com for the 100th time. you know they haven't been able to reproduce the twin towers collapsing either. you know why? they haven't built 110 story buildings yet and rammed planes into em.

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[QUOTE=chunky;956081]No problem understanding it. Are you saying Underwriters Laboratories could weaken the steel enough for the collapse when they tried to recreate what happened in the furnaces.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=chunky;956082]Maybe its because I don't have a belief system in place;)[/QUOTE]

you do have a system. it is 'i automatically dont believe shit if it is any way associated with anyone in power anywhere, because im pissed off'. easy 1 line summary.

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;956083]massive fucking fail.com for the 100th time. you know they haven't been able to reproduce the twin towers collapsing either. you know why? they haven't built 110 story buildings yet and rammed planes into em.[/QUOTE]

I was talking about building 7

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[QUOTE=chunky;956086]I was talking about building 7[/QUOTE]

massive fucking point missed for the 100th time.

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Chunky... honestly man, why is building 7 important? Seriously? :lol:

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;956085]you do have a system. it is 'i automatically dont believe shit if it is any way associated with anyone in power anywhere, because im pissed off'. easy 1 line summary.[/QUOTE]

No I'm not going to believe someone who has a history of lying, hiding evidence and acting covertly to suit their own agenda

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;956088]massive fucking point missed for the 100th time.[/QUOTE]

I haven't missed your point, I just don't agree with you. If the steel had to be weakened for the collapse and you couldn't weaken the steel with the fuel source you have a problem straight away.

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;956089]Chunky... honestly man, why is building 7 important? Seriously? :lol:[/QUOTE]

You have been involved in this thread from the beginning, you should understand why already.

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[QUOTE=chunky;956091]No I'm not going to believe someone who has a history of lying, hiding evidence and acting covertly to suit their own agenda[/QUOTE]

thanks for totally proving my point.

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[QUOTE=chunky;956092]I haven't missed your point, I just don't agree with you. If the steel had to be weakened for the collapse and you couldn't weaken the steel with the fuel source you have a problem straight away.[/QUOTE]

incorrect...where does this crazyness come from? that is what cause the bldg to fall.

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;956096]massive fucking fail.com for the 100th time. you know they haven't been able to reproduce the twin towers collapsing either. you know why? they haven't built 110 story buildings yet and rammed planes into em. .[/QUOTE] [video=youtube;cUlWpqLsOVs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUlWpqLsOVs[/video]

July 28 1945 - A US Army B-25 bomber crashes into the Empire State Building between the 78th and 79th floors. An engine plunges down an elevator shaft, sparking a fire in the basement. Eleven people in the building are killed, in addition to the three man bomber crew. Elevator operator Betty Lou Oliver survived a plunge of 75 stories inside an elevator, which still stands as the Guinness World Record for the longest survived elevator fall recorded.

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lololololol you think this is the equivalent of what happened on 9/11? come on dude, you really fucking cant be serious? if you are thank god you aren't an engineer.

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;956103] if you are thank god you aren't an engineer.[/QUOTE] Who says I'm not an engineer?

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[QUOTE=chunky;956109]Who says I'm not an engineer?[/QUOTE]

Self taught or university?

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you know what...maybe there is more to the attacks but maybe this is the reason why the official story wasn't released...to say it was cia though is a bit far fetched imo, a quick google search and look what i found on the first page.

[url]http://www.instructables.com/id/Remote-Detonator-with-Radio/[/url]

ok chunky convince me, heres ur chance....why were the cia responsible for 9/11 ?

p.s. i,m expecting a lengthy reply here

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;956103]lololololol you think this is the equivalent of what happened on 9/11? [/QUOTE] I did't say it was. You said that "they haven't built 110 story buildings yet and rammed planes into em." which is not the case. There are similaritys though, The plane went into the 79th floor causing an explosion that burned through 3 floors. Parts of the plane passed straight through the building. So you have a plane crashed into a steel frame skyscraper. Fire from the fuel and the weight of 20 floors above it. Hmm maybe they should start building skyscrapers how they did in the 1930's

The last quote from that news reel is hilarious

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[QUOTE=thebanned1;956117] ok chunky convince me, heres ur chance....why were the cia responsible for 9/11 ?

p.s. i,m expecting a lengthy reply here[/QUOTE]

I have never claimed the CIA where responsible, so if you can find a post where I have said they where please point me to it

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so who was responsible then ?

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[QUOTE=thebanned1;956117]you know what...maybe there is more to the attacks but maybe this is the reason why the official story wasn't released... [/QUOTE]

The official story was released:what

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[QUOTE=thebanned1;956125]so who was responsible then ?[/QUOTE]

People working within the US government. [url]http://www.whodidit.org/cocon.html[/url]

Have you read any of this thread? We have been through this in the first 50 pages.

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[QUOTE=chunky;956127]People working within the US government. [url]http://www.whodidit.org/cocon.html[/url]

Have you read any of this thread? We have been through this in the first 50 pages.[/QUOTE]

not this one m8 tbh, other thread but not this one

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so seem to me like there is a lot of people in that list..how did some of the most watched people in history communicate with each other with it being noticed ( its possible btw ) ? and why would they risk so many people knowing thus creating a possible link back to these people ? you don't just draw up plans like 9/11 over night there must of been some amount of communication and planning which must have taken quite sometime.

aint all the presidents communications monitored ?

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and why ?

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[QUOTE=thebanned1;956135]and why ?[/QUOTE]

Your last two posts are going to just sit here for a day maybe 2... once the questions have stopped, there will be a response. That response will not address your questions though.

Good luck

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[QUOTE=chunky;956119]I did't say it was. [/QUOTE]

Then thanks for the irrelevant post.

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;956178]Your last two posts are going to just sit here for a day maybe 2... once the questions have stopped, there will be a response. That response will not address your questions though.
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Well he could actually read the thread instead of bring up the same questions over and over again. As for a response, that's a bit rich coming from you

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;956196]Then thanks for the irrelevant post.[/QUOTE]

Everything is irrelevant to you res0 if it doesn't correlate with this belief system of yours

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[QUOTE=thebanned1;956134]so seem to me like there is a lot of people in that list..how did some of the most watched people in history communicate with each other with it being noticed ( its possible btw ) ? and why would they risk so many people knowing thus creating a possible link back to these people ? you don't just draw up plans like 9/11 over night there must of been some amount of communication and planning which must have taken quite sometime.

aint all the presidents communications monitored ?[/QUOTE]

So don't tell me, all presidents communications are monitored every conversion, every phone call or even every email.I'm guessing we can't see them because of national security. You know Bush, Cheney and Rumsfield didn't even go on record for the 9/11 Commission, they wouldn't even be interviewed individually.

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;946480]GREAT NEWS EVERYONE!

Obama was caught talking when he thought the microphones were off yesterday, and he was bitching about how behind the times the tecnology of the White House and Air Force One are, he says it feels like they are 20-30 years behind...

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS????? IT MEANS THAT CHUNKY CAN NO LONGER :deadhorse: AND MAKE TOTALLY ASININE COMMENTS ABOUT THE LACK OF 1080P PENTAGON PLANE FOOTAGE!!!! SEE!!! THE GOVERNMENT REALLY ISN'T PROTECTED BY THE T1000 AND SKYNET!!!@#!@#!@

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/NNHUp.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] [QUOTE] Are you closing threads again Res0? Do you have a link to this story. I will also point out that if this story is true Air Force One & The White House are not The pentagon and Obama makes no mention of The Pentagon in your post.

Also Bush admitted on Camera when he knew he was beening filmed that he saw the first plane hit the World Trade Centre on 9/11 [/QUOTE]

And as for responses we haven't had a response to this one yet