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Ya I guess this isn't a surprise considering people on here know that mainstream music is horrible but it is pushed on the general public.

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anyone here that didn't get a vaccination actually get swine flu? i haven't heard much at all in regards to it lately and most of my friends that got this v accination have ended up being sick constantly... not necessarily swine flu, but some sort of cold.

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Swine flu was last years big scary epidemic. I wonder what this years will be.

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I think we will go back to terrorism.

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I was thinking since Haiti was an act of God the government should round up some Christian's get them some orange suits, lock up and torture them till they tell us what they know. You know where to find them every Sunday

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[QUOTE=runningman;825810]Here come the complications to the shot. Pregnant woman having miscarriages.

[URL]http://organichealthadviser.com/archives/is-the-h1n1-swine-flu-vaccine-causing-miscarriages-9-new-stories-of-pain-and-loss-from-mothers-who-lost-their-babies-after-receiving-the-h1n1-vaccine/comment-page-1#comment-1568[/URL]

Let this be a lesson to everybody. Whatever the mainstream media is pushing with regard to vaccines do the opposite. Do not take it!![/QUOTE]

part of the government's secret plan to reverse the population explosion, no doubt.

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Do you know who John P Holdren is? I will give you a hint -- he is a Czar in a republic. Sterilization, depopulation - a little book called ecoscience.

Don't be mad at me because I know more than you.

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I can read wikipedia too.

[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Holdren[/URL]

So from a paragraph in that article we should conclude that any pregnant woman who has died from taking the swine flu vaccine has been pinched out due to this man secretly doing this?

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[QUOTE=runningman;826678]Do you know who John P Holdren is? I will give you a hint -- he is a Czar in a republic. Sterilization, depopulation - a little book called ecoscience.

Don't be mad at me because I know more than you.[/QUOTE]

:lol::lol::lol:

Dude, you have no idea how much unintentional entertainment you bring me.

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i'm bored at work today.

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I don't do wiki.

In his book he spoke about implanting a chip in you that could temporarily sterilize you. and if you wanted children the gov't would take it out for a predetermined amount of kids. That was just one possibility of many.

The main one is to add sterilants to the drinking water.

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So he rambled about some shit in his book, you believe it is happening then?

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No I don't think it is happening yet. But placing him in charge of all the science concerns me. I don't think I want a mad man being in charge of the science department if you know what I mean Why can't the science czar be a guy that studied cancer or something his whole life?

You see this is what is fundamentally wrong with our core values as a global population. We try to kill people more then we try to help people. Look at the Pentagon Budget. What is it $600 Billion (which is only what they tell you) What about the 2.3 trillion that was lost in 2003.

Imagine spending half that on quality of life issues. Education, Proper Healthcare, Proper Nourishment, Housing for everyone (Tackling Poverty), New life saving technologies and sciences. Economies would take form if the investment was there. And if the money actually made it to the streets instead of fat cat pockets. By fat cats I mean energy, arms, banking.

Trickle down economics has never worked because people are too damn greedy.

Wow..:rant:

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Was he actually advocating doing that, or just presenting it as an option? Hell, if there's a chip out there that I could implant and become temporarily sterile, I'd be interested in looking into it. Seems like a more high tech implementation of birth control, and highly preferable to a vasectomy.

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^I've got a permanent one you can have. It's called working in IT. :roflmao:

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[QUOTE=runningman;826709] You see this is what is fundamentally wrong with our core values as a global population. We try to kill people more then we try to help people. Look at the Pentagon Budget. What is it $600 Billion (which is only what they tell you) What about the 2.3 trillion that was lost in 2003.
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I think most of us would agree this sucks. I would love to see the DoD's budget slashed and the money goto aid programs and healthcare, I bet a lot also would now that the stupid media hysteria about terrororism around every corner has (mostly) down. But big corp's and lobbyists who are in everyone in govt's pockets aren't going to make that easy, which sucks.

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[QUOTE=runningman;826709]Look at the Pentagon Budget. What is it $600 Billion (which is only what they tell you) What about the 2.3 trillion that was lost in 2003.

Imagine spending half that on quality of life issues. Education, Proper Healthcare, Proper Nourishment, Housing for everyone (Tackling Poverty), New life saving technologies and sciences. [/QUOTE]

Now that's a thought-provoking concept, in a good way. :shock:

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Toasty - He was proposing it as an idea. Which basically means government funding is being directed that way.

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[QUOTE=Garrick;825926]anyone here that didn't get a vaccination actually get swine flu? i haven't heard much at all in regards to it lately and most of my friends that got this v accination have ended up being sick constantly... not necessarily swine flu, but some sort of cold.[/QUOTE]

i've never recieved any sort of flu shot and have never got the flu

probably 2/3 of my office gets the flu shot and just about all of them are walking around hacking up their fucking lungs at some point after, and refuse to use their sick time.. the one pain in the ass old lady that walks around the day they give them at work is the first one sick and is constantly sick

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[QUOTE=runningman;826725]Toasty - He was proposing it as an idea. [I]Which basically means government funding is being directed that way[/I].[/QUOTE]

Your ability to make unwarranted leaps -- no, BOUNDS -- of logic is really unprecedented. Really, bra-vo.

As I understand it, he proposed lots of things as ideas. Are government resources being directed towards all of them?

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well if you had more experience with government funded projects you would realize that the guy at the top is the one that writes the check to you.

So if he is the head cheese and those are his ideads. He would obviously fund his own beliefs. That is what he is in charge of.

It really isn't that great of a leap IMO

If I was looking for funding to mass sterilize I would approach him.

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[IMG]http://www.facepalm.org/img.php[/IMG]

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exactly how I feel..

[IMG]http://randsco.com/_img/blog/0809/kindergarten01.jpg[/IMG]

I mean toasty debate me on the issue.. He gets money from the federal gov't and ditributes it where he sees fit right?

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[QUOTE=runningman;826744]well if you had more experience with government funded projects you would realize that the guy at the top is the one that writes the check to you.
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i have a plethora of experience with government funded projects, work with the government on a daily basis for funding, and the guy at the top doesn't write my checks. the guy at the top doesn't even know my name.

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I bet he knows where the funding is going and yes maybe some trickles down to you. knowing your name is irrelevant. He is the budget man.

There is always a little bit of water at the bottom of the flower pot after watering.

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[QUOTE=runningman;826744]

If I was looking for funding to mass sterilize I would approach him.[/QUOTE]

please approach him and seek sterilization. k thanks.

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I know the common thing for a human is to flight. It has been the american way now for 30 years. The four major drives

Fight Flight Food Fornicate

Rather than informing yourselves you just flight. I understand it is only natural.

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^ this roundtable elaborates on that: [video=youtube;B1euZP0kTqA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1euZP0kTqA[/video]

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1euZP0kTqA[/YOUTUBE]

enjoy

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I can't stop laughing at the woman sleeping in the background at 20mins... this is a really boring discussion.

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anyone can go to these, if she was so tired she should have stayed home.

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U.S. health officials urged pediatricians Monday to temporarily stop using one of two vaccines against a leading cause of diarrhea in babies, after discovering that doses of GlaxoSmithKline's Rotarix were contaminated with bits of an apparently benign pig virus.

Glaxo's vaccine has been used in [U][B]millions of children worldwide, including 1 million in the U.S.,[/B][/U] with no signs of safety problems — and the pig virus isn't known to cause any kind of illness in people or animals, said physician Margaret Hamburg, commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration.[LEFT][COLOR=#000000] Read more: [URL]http://www.kansas.com/2010/03/23/1237443/diarrhea-vaccine-found-to-be-tainted.html#ixzz0j2KxlkxY[/URL] [COLOR=White]

It's Just a "Pig Virus" no biggie.. nothing to do with swine (pig) flu I guess.[/COLOR] [/COLOR][/LEFT]

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[QUOTE=runningman;846762] Glaxo's vaccine has been used in millions of children worldwide, including 1 million in the U.S., with no signs of safety problems — and the pig virus isn't known to cause any kind of illness in people or animals, said physician Margaret Hamburg, commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration.[/QUOTE][LEFT] yup!

[quote] It's Just a "Pig Virus" no biggie.. nothing to do with swine (pig) flu I guess. [/quote][/LEFT]

yup!

these were not quoted from that article:

[quote] But vaccines are supposed to be sterile, and because there is a competing vaccine against diarrhea-causing rotavirus that has tested clean — Merck's RotaTeq — the FDA decided to err on the side of caution.

 "We don't want to scare parents," Hamburg said. "This was a difficult decision for us to make because there is no evidence at this time that there is a risk to patients who have received this vaccine, and we know there are real benefits for children to be vaccinated against rotavirus."

[/quote][quote] "We live in a world that's teeming with microbes," Hamburg said, but until now this particular pig virus is not one that FDA thought vaccine makers needed to check their products against.

 Parents should switch to the Merck vaccine for now — it requires three doses instead of Glaxo's two — because rotavirus is too serious a disease to ignore, said physician William Schaffner, a vaccine specialist at Vanderbilt University who was briefed on FDA's decision.

 He's bracing for calls from worried parents and will tell them that "this has been an extraordinarily safe vaccine," and that the discovery is "a consequence of our improved science and ability to detect things that we never could before." 

[/quote] [LEFT] [/LEFT]

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are you justifying 1 million US babies geting injected with a pig virus? 30 million babies around the world

So because they came out and decided to go on caution it is ok then? Oh thank you so much vaccine inspectors for recalling vaccines that contain pig virus.. thank you so much.

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[QUOTE=runningman;846782]are you justifying 1 million US babies geting injected with a pig virus? 30 million babies around the world[/quote]

yup!!

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[QUOTE=runningman;846762] Glaxo's vaccine has been used in [U][B]millions of children worldwide, including 1 million in the U.S.,[/B][/U] with no signs of safety problems — [LEFT][COLOR=#000000][COLOR=White] It's Just a "Pig Virus" no biggie.. nothing to do with swine (pig) flu I guess.[/COLOR] [/COLOR][/LEFT] [/QUOTE]

[U][B]WITH NO SIGNS OF SAFETY PROBLEMS[/B][/U] is the bit thats relevant.

diarrhea kills babies all over the world - but this vaccine helps that issue.

Its hard to see a rational argument against it.

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NO SIGN OF SAFETY PROBLEMS YET.. I mean how did it get there in so many batches? I mean we are talking 30 million doses.

I mean who knows what the side effects are when you inject babies with a pig virus? Also do you actually believe that they would come out and say "ya those 30 million kids we injected are gonna get fucked up come and sue us" hahahahaha.. these are vaccines not strollers or high chairs..

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It said absolutely nowhere in the article anything about 30 million doses have been found to have been contaminated. Oops.

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[url]http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/vaccines/[/url]

This is airing next week, looks like it will be good.

[quote] Public health scientists and clinicians tout vaccines as one of the greatest achievements of modern medicine. But for many ordinary Americans vaccines have become controversial. Young parents are concerned at the sheer number of shots--some 26 inoculations for 14 different diseases by age 6--and follow alternative vaccination schedules advocated by gurus like Dr. Robert Sears. Other parents go further. In communities like Ashland, Oregon, up to one-third of parents are choosing not to vaccinate their kids at all. And some advocacy groups, like Generation Rescue, argue that vaccines are no longer a public health miracle but a scourge; they view vaccines as responsible for alarming rises in certain disorders, including ADHD and autism. This is the vaccine war: On one side sits scientific medicine and the public health establishment; on the other a populist coalition of parents, celebrities (like Jenny McCarthy), politicians and activists. It's a war that increasingly takes place on the Internet with both sides using the latest social media tools, including Facebook and Twitter, to win the hearts and minds of the public.[/quote]

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^was going to post that in the other thread in gyy, then foreshadowed RM's response and decided not to bother.

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:lol: im just keeping it in the politics section and this one thread.