Re: Celente Predicts Revolution, Food Riots, Tax Rebellions By 2012

[QUOTE=yesme;677920]awesome insight, thanks for your post[/QUOTE]

Actually, I think it's an exceptional response. The fact that this absurd thread has had enough legs to get to three pages is staggering to me. We do ourselves a disservice by giving it enough credence to actually respond as if it is raising something worth legitimate discussion.

It is nearly 2009 now, and the US is supposed to be an undeveloped nation 3 years from now? Sorry, no sale. Not even worth talking about...

Re: Celente Predicts Revolution, Food Riots, Tax Rebellions By 2012

[quote=toasty;677922]Actually, I think it's an exceptional response. The fact that this absurd thread has had enough legs to get to three pages is staggering to me. We do ourselves a disservice by giving it enough credence to actually respond as if it is raising something worth legitimate discussion.

It is nearly 2009 now, and the US is supposed to be an undeveloped nation 3 years from now? Sorry, no sale. Not even worth talking about...[/quote]

maybe it will be 6 yrs or 8 yrs.

the FACTS are if we dont get off the fed, and lower the debt, then we are thru, thats the bottom line.

Re: Celente Predicts Revolution, Food Riots, Tax Rebellions By 2012

[QUOTE=yesme;677920]awesome insight, thanks for your post[/QUOTE] Okay,

I happen to think that anyone who doesn’t think that this statement is completely ludicrous needs to evaluate their understanding of the developed/developing nation concept.

If the United States were to suddenly shift from being a developed nation to a less developed nation it would have a huge & long-lasting detrimental effect on every other nation across the world. These other countries (i.e. Europe, Asia) would be in the same shape (and most likely in worse shape) than the US. It’s not like some other nation would just swoop right in and take our ‘developed nation spot.’ If this were to happen the whole concept of what a developed nation [b]is[/b] today (in 2008 ) would probably no longer apply to any country and would have to be redefined completely.

Additionally, being a developed nation encompasses more than just financial status (although that certainly is a large component). It also includes things like literacy, human rights, democratic freedom, and industrialization. For all of these things to disappear in America it would mean that our government would have to completely collapse and so much of what America has fought for and now stands for would have to have been reversed.

Re: Celente Predicts Revolution, Food Riots, Tax Rebellions By 2012

[QUOTE=yesme;678257]maybe it will be 6 yrs or 8 yrs.

the FACTS are if we dont get off the fed, and lower the debt, then we are thru, thats the bottom line.[/QUOTE]

Are there problems in the US right now, BIG problems? Of course. Do we need to do something to get back on the right track IMMEDIATELY? Yep. Are we headed in the wrong direction? You betcha.

That's not even in the same ballpark as "undeveloped nation," though. pr0ficient's most recent post on this is spot on.

Re: Celente Predicts Revolution, Food Riots, Tax Rebellions By 2012

[QUOTE]If the United States were to suddenly shift from being a developed nation to a less developed nation it would have a huge & long-lasting detrimental effect on every other nation across the world. These other countries (i.e. Europe, Asia) would be in the same shape (and most likely in worse shape) than the US. It’s not like some other nation would just swoop right in and take our ‘developed nation spot.’ If this were to happen the whole concept of what a developed nation [B]is[/B] today (in 2008 ) would probably no longer apply to any country and would have to be redefined completely. [/QUOTE]

oh, i agree 100%, and in fact that is the goal, our leaders want us to beg for some kind of security and stability, hence a one world order, along witha one world money system.

[QUOTE]It also includes things like literacy[/QUOTE]

and that is one thing we are falling way behind in as we speak.

[QUOTE]human rights, democratic freedom[/QUOTE]

will be memories of the past when martial law comes down the pipes

[QUOTE]and industrialization[/QUOTE]

funny, cause industry/manufacturing is dead already in this country.

[QUOTE]For all of these things to disappear in America it would mean that our government would have to completely collapse and so much of what America has fought for and now stands for would have to have been reversed.

[/QUOTE]most of what america stood for in 1776 has been reversed, and if our dollar becomes worthless, the collapse of our government is more then certain.

but i guess since no other superpower has ever collapsed, then we being americans, it has to be immpossible.

i mean we are the best country in the world, we can spend and spend and spend, and nothing is gonna happen, because we are america damn it!!

Re: Celente Predicts Revolution, Food Riots, Tax Rebellions By 2012

^^ Of course the US "Superpower" status will fall. We are collapsing right now, just as other empires and superpowers did before us. Things will suck for a while here, like they did in the Great Depression. But that does not necessarily equate to the same thing as becoming a third world country like Zaire. There will likely come a leveling out and an improvement phase somewhere in the future as there has been in the past. It might be after a World War, but unless a comet hits us and ends all life it is safe to bet that the sky will not fall. Civilization will likely still survive. America will likely still carry forward a decent standard of living, as for instance the United Kingdom generally has - they fell, too, and they didn't turn into a third world country.

Re: Celente Predicts Revolution, Food Riots, Tax Rebellions By 2012

[URL]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27835353/[/URL] [quote]updated 5:07 a.m. CT, Fri., Nov. 21, 2008 WASHINGTON - Global warming could be a boon to Russia, a European country could be overrun by organized crime and the U.S. and its dollar could further decline in importance during the next two decades, says a U.S. intelligence report with predictions for the world in 2025. The report, Global Trends 2025, is published every four years by the National Intelligence Council to give U.S. leaders insight into looming problems and opportunities. The report says the warming earth will extend Russia and Canada's growing season and ease their access to northern oil fields, strengthening their economies. But Russia's potential emergence as a world power may be clouded by lagging investment in its energy sector, persistent crime and government corruption, the report says. Analysts also warn that the same kind of organized crime plaguing Russia could eventually take over the government of an Eastern or Central European country. The report is silent on which one. It also says countries in Africa and South Asia may find themselves unstable and ungoverned, as state regimes collapse or wither away under security problems and water and food shortages brought about by climate change and a population increase of 1.4 billion. The potential for conflict will be greater in 2025 than it is now, as the world's population competes for declining and shifting food, water and energy resources. Al-Qaida's decay Despite a more precarious world situation, the report also says al-Qaida's terrorist franchise could decay "sooner than people think." It cites its growing unpopularity in the Muslim world, where it kills most of its victims. "The prospect that al-Qaida will be among the small number of groups able to transcend the generational timeline is not high, given its harsh ideology, unachievable strategic objectives and inability to become a mass movement," the report states. The report forecasts a geopolitical rise in non-Arab Muslim states outside of the Middle East, including Turkey and Indonesia, and says Iran could also be a central player in a new world order if it sheds its theocracy.[/quote]