"The U.S. is [I]usually[/I] against diplomacy. If the U.S. can establish force as the way to rule the world, the U.S. wins because it's way ahead in force. If diplomacy succeeds, it delegitimates militarism, reduces the relevance of military might and increases the relevance of diplomacy."

                                                 -Chomsky

I cannot wait to see this man on the world stage...

Re: Quote that sums up why Obama will be better for the world than McCain

Oh, and..........

In before the Obamabot/Messiah/"The One" assortment of comments :lol:

Re: Quote that sums up why Obama will be better for the world than McCain

[quote=BabyMatty4Block;664984]Oh, and..........

In before the Obamabot/Messiah/"The One" assortment of comments :lol:[/quote]

You seem to have warmed up to shosh and k3n3 quickly.

Re: Quote that sums up why Obama will be better for the world than McCain

[quote=BabyMatty4Block;664983]"The U.S. is [I]usually[/I] against diplomacy. If the U.S. can establish force as the way to rule the world, the U.S. wins because it's way ahead in force. If diplomacy succeeds, it delegitimates militarism, reduces the relevance of military might and increases the relevance of diplomacy."

-Chomsky

I cannot wait to see this man on the world stage...[/quote]

this assumes that diplomacy is more important than militarism, which to him is what we export: to the contrary, what we export is security. There needs to be an equal dosage of both, and to suggest that diplomacy is the end-all-be-all is rather absurd considering that even this nation founded on rational principles of individual freedom has a tendency to be irrational in diplomatic relations. thus, how else does one deal with irrational leaders across the globe?

i think reagan said it best, although I'll say it cryptically applies here: "trust, but verify"

Re: Quote that sums up why Obama will be better for the world than McCain

[quote=88Mariner;665043]this assumes that diplomacy is more important than militarism, which to him is what we export: to the contrary, what we export is security. There needs to be an equal dosage of both, and to suggest that diplomacy is the end-all-be-all is rather absurd considering that even this nation founded on rational principles of individual freedom has a tendency to be irrational in diplomatic relations. thus, how else does one deal with irrational leaders across the globe?

i think reagan said it best, although I'll say it cryptically applies here: "trust, but verify"[/quote]

To that, I would say that the threat of military force as solutions to conflicts should always be the last resort. Obama will reach out to leaders like Ahmedinijad and open dialogue, where the McCain policy would more than likely be another few dick waving naval exercises in the Persian Gulf.

And if it's security that we're really exporting, why couldn't we ship some of that noble sounding commodity over to Sudan at any point during the last half century? If we had decided to honor the memory of 9/11 victims by taking up a truly noble cause such as putting a halt to a few machete slaughter-fests and sending some food aid over, it would have done wonders for our country's image. Think back to the months after 9/11, when we had the sympathy of the entire world and a president with a 90% approval rating. All Bush had to do was say the word and the country would have been behind him.

Here's a link to the conversation I quoted Chomsky from. Great read. That man really has a knack for putting things in perspective. Keep in mind this was written in 1991 :shock:

[URL]http://www.chomsky.info/articles/199102--.htm[/URL]