Fuck you, pessimists. This was perfect regardless of party (except for policy for some of you).

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Dude stone cold hit it out of the park. Truly one for the ages. Given all the build up, there was a very real possibility of a let down, but Obama did not disappoint. Unreal.

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i thought he took about 10-15 mins to warm up - not surprising considering he was in front 80, 000 people. But from then on he hit every issue he had to, was forceful when he needed to be and the pace was fantastic - rising then slowing down then rising again. great stuff

{we wont see the 73 year old do anything as remotely passionate next week!}

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^ yeah he copied digweed on how to build up a set. What you saw was the Obama vortex

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No matter where you stand on the issues if you deny that the speech was amazing you are a liar!

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obama is the truth. fuck the haters

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fine speech. he struck a lot of deep keynotes with regards to spiritual and ethical majesty wouldn't you say? did he write it? it looked like he sure meant it tho.

cant judge what his innermost motives might be, but that went well. he is goin to be really tough to beat.. that stadium was raging with fervor too.

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[quote=w0e & cri5is;641920]fine speech. he struck a lot of deep keynotes with regards to spiritual and ethical majesty wouldn't you say? did he write it? it looked like he sure meant it tho.

cant judge what his innermost motives might be, but that went well. he is goin to be really tough to beat.. that stadium was raging with fervor too.[/quote]

He writes his own speeches. Apparently he sealed himself inside his hotel room last night and just started writing for hours what was coming to his mind.

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a masterpeice. The best political speech i've heard in my life.

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After letting it sink in a little more, I especially enjoyed the methodical, point-by-point dismantling of John McCain's bullshit. A few notable points of awesomeness:

[quote="Barack Obama"]Tonight, I say to the American people, to Democrats and Republicans and Independents across this great land - enough![/quote]

(^ better in delivery than in text)

[quote="Barack Obama"]Now, I don't believe that Senator McCain doesn't care what's going on in the lives of Americans. I just think he doesn't know. Why else would he define middle-class as someone making under five million dollars a year? How else could he propose hundreds of billions in tax breaks for big corporations and oil companies but not one penny of tax relief to more than one hundred million Americans? How else could he offer a health care plan that would actually tax people's benefits, or an education plan that would do nothing to help families pay for college, or a plan that would privatize Social Security and gamble your retirement?

It's not because John McCain doesn't care. It's because John McCain doesn't get it. [/quote]

[quote="Barack Obama"]If John McCain wants to have a debate about who has the [B]temperament[/B], and judgment, to serve as the next Commander-in-Chief, that's a debate I'm ready to have.[/quote]

[quote="Barack Obama"]John McCain likes to say that he'll follow bin Laden to the Gates of Hell - but he won't even go to the cave where he lives.[/quote]

The McCain campaign's response right after this speech was laughable too. They should've just left it alone. :lol:

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Good luck to the man but honesty and politics simply don't mix - Uk's been had over for the last 10 years by a con man called tony blair so watch out. Polished performances are usually bullshit.

Anyone got the audio so we can all get sampling???

:lol:

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yeah, call it political blah if you will. but nevertheless, he has arrived at an extremely unique and opportune vantage point to give suggestion, solace and inspiration to discouraged mobs, who have shunned national interests in the past -- or who simply don't care for a united purpose.

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If he provides any form of inspiration and direction to his people then all power to him - surely only good can come of that. I'm over here so i don't know but he seems to be making people listen, and therefore think. We now have a leader who has no direction and inspires only sympathy. His name is Gordon but i doubt you've heard of him. :lol:

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ya this is great people.. lets let a 12 year old run the country. Hope is lost.

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^you're from canada. what's your worry???

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I want to move to the states soon.. and also when you guys are down so are we..

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McCain better eat a light lunch is all I have to say .Woot !!

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lol @ all obama nut huggers. careful you might choke on his dick...

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[quote=shosh;642083]lol @ all obama nut huggers. careful you might choke on his dick...[/quote]

HAHAHAHAHAH!!! I love it:lol::lol::lol:

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no seriously, give me a minute and i'll elaborate on this... ill come back and edit this post

EDIT:

i'll give you that obama can give a good speech, or to be more accurate, he can read a good speech written by a very good writer.

his speech didnt bring out anything new, it was the same old shit he's been saying with no specific plans or outlines. he didnt say anything new and kept hammering the same points. he just listed his promises, a little bit for everyone to make everyone happy. just like all of his speeches, they are aimed to make everyone happy. imo, just a bullshitter, a typical politician, nothing different here. from something i read in Time: During his time at Harvard Law School in the 1980s, the student body was deeply divided. In one heated debate, Obama so adroitly summarized the various positions without tipping his own hand that by the end of the meeting, as Professor Charles Ogletree told one newspaper, "everyone was nodding, Oh, he agrees with me." >> that's exactly what he's trying to do.

now some of the things he brought up were complete shit: he said that his plans will cost money but he will pay for it by closing corporate loopholes, tax havens, and programs out of the budget that arent needed... really obama? i guess thats different now from what he used to say that he wont eliminate deficit, more likelt not even bring it down at all in his first term given how many programs he wants to implement. the quote about mccain saying that he believed the economy has made great progress under bush taken out of context was lulzy. oh yeah he will ensure our troups will have the equipment they need in battle. how is he going to do that? by voting against the critical funding bill for the troups in iraq and afghanistan? yeah im sure that will do it. he also said he will try to ring reps and dems together, yet he has voted with his party 96-97% of the time. bi-partisan just like my dick is bi-partisan (only ill admit it im straight and my dick will vote for vajin 100% of the time, niiiice). again he's just saying shit just to say shit.

he wants us to achieve energy independence? how? he's agains offshore drilling, he's agains the gas tax holiday, he's against nuclear power, he's asking for a windfall profits tax on oil companies (who's that going to be passed on to?). brb inflating my tires

oh and my favorite: he will cut taxes for 95% of all working families.from factcheck. org "What Obama voted for was a budget resolution that would have allowed most of the provisions of the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts to expire. In particular, the resolution would allow the 25 percent tax bracket to return to its pre-2001 level of 28 percent. That bracket kicks in at $32,550 for an individual or $65,100 for a married couple. … But as those of you who have filled out a 1040 know, that’s not actually how income taxes work. We don’t pay taxes on our total earnings; we pay them based on our ‘taxable income.’ The Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center’s Eric Toder told FactCheck.org that ‘people with taxable income of $32,000 would have a total income greater than that.’ In 2008, anyone filing taxes with single status would be entitled to a standar d deduction of $5,450, as well as a personal exemption of $3,500. So to have a taxable income high enough to reach the 25 percent bracket, an individual would need to earn at least $41,500 in total income, while a married couple would need a combined income of at least $83,000.”

EDIT #2: ohhhhh i see toasty getting ready to write his rebuttal or praise (both the same)

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[QUOTE=shosh;642091]no seriously, give me a minute and i'll ellaborate on this... ill come back and ediut this post[/QUOTE]

OHHHHHHHH, i'm on the edge of my seat with anticipation!!! PLEASE HURRY!! :shock:

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he's menacing and he has a huge schlong? i think that's a little projection on your part....

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[QUOTE=shosh;642091] EDIT #2: ohhhhh i see toasty getting ready to write his rebuttal or praise (both the same)[/QUOTE]

Dude, do you have some sort of crush on me or something? Monitoring my whereabouts, hanging on my every word -- I'm flattered. :LoveYou:

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[quote=toasty;642109]Dude, do you have some sort of crush on me or something? Monitoring my whereabouts, hanging on my every word -- I'm flattered. :LoveYou:[/quote]

mancrush ftw. jk you can just see at the bottom of the page whos in the thread and after i posted i saw you. dont get too flattered

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[quote=toasty;642109]Dude, do you have some sort of crush on me or something? Monitoring my whereabouts, hanging on my every word -- I'm flattered. :LoveYou:[/quote] he is the lou pinella to your tony larussa.

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[quote=shosh;642083]lol @ all obama nut huggers. careful you might choke on his dick...[/quote]

pffft...you're just another obama hater

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Political leaders are never really leaders at all - they exist as merely a focal point within a system. Nothing really changes while the system remains the same despite the best intentions (or otherwise) of any individual. Everyone else who makes their living from the system tends to have it pretty good so their tendency is to resist change. And so we go on....... I'd like to think that if you voted for me i'd do all i could for the poor, sick, elderly and needy of this world - as would any right-minded person, but bringing about real change in 4 years within a system that dates back to medieval times is a tall order.

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[quote=thesightless;642124]he is the lou pinella to your tony larussa.[/quote]

lol... who are you then?

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bobby fucking knight. loud obnoxious, do it my way and win in the end.

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[quote=bobjuice;642138]Political leaders are never really leaders at all - they exist as merely a focal point within a system. Nothing really changes while the system remains the same despite the best intentions (or otherwise) of any individual. Everyone else who makes their living from the system tends to have it pretty good so their tendency is to resist change. And so we go on....... I'd like to think that if you voted for me i'd do all i could for the poor, sick, elderly and needy of this world - as would any right-minded person, but bringing about real change in 4 years within a system that dates back to medieval times is a tall order.[/quote]

Bravo. Enjoy your comments.

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[QUOTE=thesightless;642148]bobby fucking knight. loud obnoxious, do it my way and win in the end.[/QUOTE]

you're more ozzie guillen than bobby knight.

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[quote=thesightless;642148]bobby fucking knight. loud obnoxious, do it my way and win in the end.[/quote]

lol i'll give you that... im expecting to get choked soon.

unfortunately, there is no winning

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no i will win. obama is gonna win, and i have already transferred my money into stocks that will beinifit with a fullly democratic govt'. both houses and the white house will be under thier control so bet on alternative energy comapnies, large scale industris with heavy influential unions, etc

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btw, caught this from Jimmy Kimmel the other night, kinda funny

"Why Obama would pick someone with the last name Biden is beyond me. Not that there's anything wrong with the name Biden in and of itself, but "Obama-Biden" -- it's like they're trying to make their ticket sound as much like Osama bin Laden as possible."

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[quote=shosh;642091]no seriously, give me a minute and i'll elaborate on this... ill come back and edit this post

EDIT:

i'll give you that obama can give a good speech, or to be more accurate, he can read a good speech written by a very good writer.

his speech didnt bring out anything new, it was the same old shit he's been saying with no specific plans or outlines. he didnt say anything new and kept hammering the same points. he just listed his promises, a little bit for everyone to make everyone happy. just like all of his speeches, they are aimed to make everyone happy. imo, just a bullshitter, a typical politician, nothing different here. from something i read in Time: During his time at Harvard Law School in the 1980s, the student body was deeply divided. In one heated debate, Obama so adroitly summarized the various positions without tipping his own hand that by the end of the meeting, as Professor Charles Ogletree told one newspaper, "everyone was nodding, Oh, he agrees with me." >> that's exactly what he's trying to do.

now some of the things he brought up were complete shit: he said that his plans will cost money but he will pay for it by closing corporate loopholes, tax havens, and programs out of the budget that arent needed... really obama? i guess thats different now from what he used to say that he wont eliminate deficit, more likelt not even bring it down at all in his first term given how many programs he wants to implement. the quote about mccain saying that he believed the economy has made great progress under bush taken out of context was lulzy. oh yeah he will ensure our troups will have the equipment they need in battle. how is he going to do that? by voting against the critical funding bill for the troups in iraq and afghanistan? yeah im sure that will do it. he also said he will try to ring reps and dems together, yet he has voted with his party 96-97% of the time. bi-partisan just like my dick is bi-partisan (only ill admit it im straight and my dick will vote for vajin 100% of the time, niiiice). again he's just saying shit just to say shit.

he wants us to achieve energy independence? how? he's agains offshore drilling, he's agains the gas tax holiday, he's against nuclear power, he's asking for a windfall profits tax on oil companies (who's that going to be passed on to?). brb inflating my tires

oh and my favorite: he will cut taxes for 95% of all working families.from factcheck. org "What Obama voted for was a budget resolution that would have allowed most of the provisions of the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts to expire. In particular, the resolution would allow the 25 percent tax bracket to return to its pre-2001 level of 28 percent. That bracket kicks in at $32,550 for an individual or $65,100 for a married couple. … But as those of you who have filled out a 1040 know, that’s not actually how income taxes work. We don’t pay taxes on our total earnings; we pay them based on our ‘taxable income.’ The Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center’s Eric Toder told FactCheck.org that ‘people with taxable income of $32,000 would have a total income greater than that.’ In 2008, anyone filing taxes with single status would be entitled to a standar d deduction of $5,450, as well as a personal exemption of $3,500. So to have a taxable income high enough to reach the 25 percent bracket, an individual would need to earn at least $41,500 in total income, while a married couple would need a combined income of at least $83,000.”

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toasty... you never said anything about this?

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[QUOTE=shosh;643676]toasty... you never said anything about this?[/QUOTE]

Didn't think it required a response. You're just recycling the same criticisms you always use, apart from the new and frankly bizarre criticism that he has in the past helped people reach reconciliation which, by the way, is one of the many roles the president has.

Probably worth mentioning that you're mixing apples and oranges on the tax thing. You're talking about a non-binding vote in the past, while his tax proposal is just that, a proposal, which means that it would be, by definition, in the future.

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i missed this speech, anyone know where it mihgt be rebroadcast so i am able to watch or hear it

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[QUOTE=toasty;643758]Didn't think it required a response. [/QUOTE]

Take the hint Shosh: nobody cares about your uneducated immature regurgitated opinion.

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[QUOTE=chuckc;643797]i missed this speech, anyone know where it mihgt be rebroadcast so i am able to watch or hear it[/QUOTE]

Here you go, you can [URL="https://donate.barackobama.com/page/content/acceptancespeechnd?source=20080829_OFA_ND"]view it here[/URL].

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seriosuly though, how the fuck does this nimrod think he is gonna pay for all these promises ? 60% tax bracket on anyone over 100K ? yeah, that wont go well.