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McCain is Doomed

20 durable postsStarted 2008-06-18Latest 2008-06-27
#55784Post 1 of 20

Regarding a new poll of Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania:

[quote]This is the first time Sen. Obama has led in all three states. No one has been elected President since 1960 without taking two of these three largest swing states in the Electoral College. Results from the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University polls show:

  • Florida: Obama edges McCain 47 - 43 percent;
  • Ohio: Obama tops McCain 48 - 42 percent;
  • Pennsylvania: Obama leads McCain 52 - 40 percent. In the three states, Obama leads McCain 10 to 23 percentage points among women, while men are too close to call. The Democrat trails among white voters in Florida and Ohio, but gets more than 90 percent of black voters in each state. He also has double-digit leads among young voters in each state.[/quote] [url]https://quinnipiac.edu/x2882.xml?ReleaseID=1187[/url]

Not saying who [b]should[/b] win, nor am I saying that these poll results are going to hold up – just talking about the horserace aspect of the race, and the impact these polls will have on McCain’s campaign.

I had thought that Florida was a pipe dream, and that McCain wouldn’t have to devote a lot of resources to the state. Thing is, this is just one poll and McCain very well may still take the state, but the more resources he has to devote to holding Florida, the fewer resources he’s going to have to compete in other states he has to carry to win, like Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Virginia, Missouri, etc., all of which currently range between faint blue to pretty darn blue on fivethirtyeight.com. Also, Obama currently has more states that are solidly in his column right now, per RCP.

He’s got about a week to see where things fall after the bounce effect wears off, but if the map looks anything like this at the end of next week, the dude is going to have to reevaluate his strategy some, methinks. If he loses Florida, he’s got a really tough path to the nomination, but even if he holds it, that state is an enormous resource drain and will make it very tough for him to compete in states like Ohio, Pennsylvania and Missouri that also have multiple large population/media centers.

Early polls don’t matter in terms of what the electorate will ultimately do – but if they force a change of strategy, they can have an impact…

#1035341Post 2 of 20

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Since I'm clearly biased, I was happy to see this poll as well. It isn't too surprising though since McCain has acted like a more senile version of John Kerry so far in this campaign when it comes to so-called "flip-flopping."

#1035344Post 3 of 20

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it is a very long time to election time to think mccain is doomed. people still have a lot to learn about both candidates. MJ you are very biased. Obama flip flops just as well. it is in every politician's nature to do so. [quote]remember that a few months ago Barack Obama was talking about almost doubling the capital gains tax. he wanted to take it up to 28%. suddenly that changed. apparently some advisors who are smarter than him had a little sit-down, and the idea went away. [/quote]

#1035347Post 4 of 20

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im not that interested on politics, i my self dont really ever vote(yes yes i know i should blah blah, but i dont, i just dont care).

but im becoming more and more annoyed by how Mcaing is trying to appeal to the younger crowd, just that Saturday Night Live skit and his appearance on the Daily Show, i mean, dude is just trying way too hard, it makes him look dumb.

and just for the record, theres something about Obama that is just unsettling for me, i mean the dude is a great motivator and some of the things he says are really inspiring, but i dont know, for me its seems like a lot of over hyping going on.

still if i had to choose between the two, i would go for Obama, just because i think if we go for Mcain its going to be another 4 years of Bush.

my two cents.

#1035349Post 5 of 20

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^ don't take any offense to this, please. don't vote unless you know the candidate you are voting for. and i agree mccain is trying hard to appeal to the younger generations and SNL kinda made him look like a dork, imo... but he really has no choice but to do things like SNL to try to appeal to different audeinces. the man is so ineloquent, though, i'd probably avoid public showcases like SNL. he just isn't funny.

#1035356Post 6 of 20

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its a shame this country is now voting for the best speech and debate skills instead of values, ideas, plans etc./

#1035359Post 7 of 20

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[IMG]http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x167/VincentJason/flair2.gif[/IMG]

#1035366Post 8 of 20

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[QUOTE=shosh;614998][IMG]http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x167/VincentJason/flair2.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]

that's awesome! :lol:

#1035372Post 9 of 20

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[QUOTE=thesightless;614995]its a shame this country is now voting for the best speech and debate skills instead of values, ideas, plans etc./[/QUOTE]

You know, difficult though it may be to believe, some people [B]do [/B]in fact vote for Obama/McCain/whomever because they like what they have to say, not just how they say it. The reality is that most McCain voters are Republican, and most Obama voters are Democrats. Obama's base is not made up of neocons that are wowed by his oratory skills any more than McCain's voters are liberal hippies that love his folksy way at a town hall meeting.

#1035374Post 10 of 20

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if people in the states voted based on speech and debate skills, george w bush would have never, ever been elected. ever.

#1035390Post 11 of 20

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[quote=day_for_night;615015]if people in the states voted based on speech and debate skills, george w bush would have never, ever been elected. ever.[/quote]

i attribute his re-election to the south and middle america.

#1035446Post 12 of 20

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this is awesome:

:lol:

[url]http://www.rawstory.com/news/2008/McCain_temper_boiled_over_in_92_0407.html[/url]

#1035509Post 13 of 20

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so american people are making sense... cool

#1035530Post 14 of 20

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[quote=shosh;614998][IMG]http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x167/VincentJason/flair2.gif[/IMG][/quote]

Ric Flair for president baby!

WOOOOOOOO!

#1035567Post 15 of 20

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[QUOTE=Jenks;615090]this is awesome:

:lol:

[url]http://www.rawstory.com/news/2008/McCain_temper_boiled_over_in_92_0407.html[/url][/QUOTE]

nsfw, from the folks that brought you the John McCain version of Will.I.Am's "Yes We Can" Video

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Euu_DMhsXQo[/YOUTUBE]

#1035654Post 16 of 20

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Obama believes that since I work for a living and earn a decent salary, then I should be paying higher taxes... Also that paying higher prices for energy isn't necessarily a bad thing... what a concept...

[IMG]http://www.b3tards.com/u/0154b654c2a7a601f461/obama.jpg[/IMG]

Obama 3:16

#1035657Post 17 of 20

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god i love it.

[quote=k3n3;615329]

[IMG]http://www.b3tards.com/u/0154b654c2a7a601f461/obama.jpg[/IMG]

Obama 3:16[/quote]

additional tought.

if he wins, im buying stocks in every major rap label. cuz shit gonna hit the fan.

#1035670Post 18 of 20

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[QUOTE=k3n3;615329]Obama believes that since I work for a living and earn a decent salary, then I should be paying higher taxes... [/QUOTE]

only if you make more than $250,000.

#1035675Post 19 of 20

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[quote=k3n3;615329]

[IMG]http://www.b3tards.com/u/0154b654c2a7a601f461/obama.jpg[/IMG]

Obama 3:16[/quote]

LMAO! :lol:

#1041279Post 20 of 20

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Just remember that the Republicans get an 8 point boost in the real election. Always. So, whatever the polls say, just move about 8 points to Red and that's more accurate.

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