I hate to say it - but I think Hillary has IN sewn up. What say you ?

Re: Indiana - who is calling it?

i think they're going to split it-

Indiana - Hillary the Douchenozzle North Carolina - Obama

Re: Indiana - who is calling it?

regrettably, I am probably calling it for Clinton.

Here's a more out-there prediction, though. If they split and Indiana is fairly close, or if Obama should somehow win both, you'll see superdelegates start to more line up behind Obama. After today's races, there will officially be more unpledged superdelegates than pledged delegates available, and more pressure for them to come out in support of a candidate.

God forbid she wins both or blows him out in Indiana. Getting so very tired of her...

Re: Indiana - who is calling it?

What about Florida and Michigan? How's that argument shaping up now? Not really been paying enough attention.

Re: Indiana - who is calling it?

Florida and Michigan? wtf about them? nothing. Obama wasn't even on the ticket. She can count with her finger and toes for all i care, she's not leading.

Re: Indiana - who is calling it?

I was just asking... since I keep hearing mention of possibly counting them, or re-voting, etc...

Just curious what's happening with that?

Re: Indiana - who is calling it?

nothing. it's not going to be counted, and rightfully so.

Re: Indiana - who is calling it?

Florida & Michigan is a complete clusterfuck. Dean is trying to work out some sort of deal behind the scenes to avoid alienating two large blocks of Democrats in the general election. He seems to realize, however, that nothing can happen that would be outcome determinative.

Clinton, on the other hand, may be pursuing what is being referred to as "the Nuclear Option." Evidently, over 50% of the members of the Rules & Bylaws Committee are Clinton supporters. That Committee meets at the end of the month, and she could theoretically convince her supporters to essentially change the rules, such that Michigan and Florida would be seated as is.

It isn't quite as simple as this, but I'll defer to the article discussing it to lay out the other (significant) hurdles:

[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/04/clinton-camp-considering_n_100051.html[/url]

Really, really despicable to even consider, IMO. I already wonder how Clinton supporters can say with a straight face that those delegations ought to count, or how they could be proud of the campaign she's run. If she does this, though, the Democrats can kiss the White House goodbye.

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[img]http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/7976/33ebbf11b6f24ea5a63f7a8gy3.gif[/img]

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...and now Hillary has taken to referring to 2,208 as the number of delegates needed to get the nomination -- which would have been right, were it not for Florida and Michigan being stripped of their delegates.

[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/06/clinton-camp-tries-to-red_n_100360.html[/url]

At this point, she is starting to remind me of Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf a/k/a "Baghdad Bob," the former Iraqi Information Minister, who would get on camera and spew bullshit about how there were no Americans in Baghdad as shells rocked the building he was in. Yeah, Hillary, just start making shit up, and maybe some people will buy it. Has she no shame?

Re: Indiana - who is calling it?

who cares, either way the country is still fucked

Re: Indiana - who is calling it?

Thanks for that fascinating piece of useful information Steve. ;)

Re: Indiana - who is calling it?

leave it to my state to fuck it up. indiana is the most anti-hillary state there is. i think it's teh fact that there are tons of racists there that they'd rather have hillary. fuckers.

Re: Indiana - who is calling it?

[QUOTE=88Mariner;600418]leave it to my state to fuck it up. indiana is the most anti-hillary state there is. i think it's teh fact that there are tons of racists there that they'd rather have hillary. fuckers.[/QUOTE]

fucking hoosiers* ;)

• that term has special meaning for those of us in st. louis, btw

Re: Indiana - who is calling it?

[quote=88Mariner;600418]leave it to my state to fuck it up. indiana is the most anti-hillary state there is. i think it's teh fact that there are tons of racists there that they'd rather have hillary. fuckers.[/quote]

I voted Obama... saw him eating an omlete this morning.

Re: Indiana - who is calling it?

per Huff Post, Hillary's up 5 in Indiana, and Obama's up 12 in NC in the exit polls. I bring this to everyone's attention because if there's one thing you can count on this election cycle, it's the accuracy of polling. :roll:

Re: Indiana - who is calling it?

[QUOTE=toasty;600250]If they split and Indiana is fairly close, or if Obama should somehow win both, you'll see superdelegates start to more line up behind Obama. [/QUOTE]

It's starting, I think (hope):

[QUOTE]Barack Obama pocketed the support of at least four Democratic convention superdelegates on Wednesday...[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.realclearpolitics.com/news/ap/politics/2008/May/07/obama_gains_superdelegates_after_trading_wins_with_clinton.html[/url]

Re: Indiana - who is calling it?

shes a hard nosed witch - she aint gonna drop out until its mathematically impossible, or shes out of money, or someone accidentally shoots Obama.

Re: Indiana - who is calling it?

[quote=Jenks;600415]Thanks for that fascinating piece of useful information Steve. ;)[/quote]

hey I'm full of usefull insight, any time I'm able to share I jump at the opportunity

now shut it and go enjoy your birthday old man :D

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[QUOTE=toasty;600376]

At this point, she is starting to remind me of Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf a/k/a "Baghdad Bob," the former Iraqi Information Minister, who would get on camera and spew bullshit about how there were no Americans in Baghdad as shells rocked the building he was in. Yeah, Hillary, just start making shit up, and maybe some people will buy it. Has she no shame?[/QUOTE]

I was reminded of this post when I saw this article:

[URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/matt-littman/terry-mcauliffe-has-becom_b_100493.html"]Terry McAuliffe Has Become Baghdad Bob[/URL]

For the record, his article came like 7-8 hours after my post -- don't want to be accused of ripping anyone off! :p

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[quote=Huggie Smiles;600851]shes a hard nosed witch - she aint gonna drop out until its mathematically impossible, or shes out of money, or someone accidentally shoots Obama.[/quote]

Toastys wonkette think she will shoot him too! hahaha

[url]http://wonkette.com/388157/how-hillary-clinton-will-win-the-nomination-now[/url]

"The most likely scenario for Hillary to become president, however: Barack Obama wins 54% of the remaining pledged delegates and 60% of undecided superdelegates, and Hillary shoots him in the face with her fake Hitler Gun, and then Al Gore becomes president again at the convention and she shoots him too, the end."

Re: Indiana - who is calling it?

I'll go ahead and call it.

I think there is a strong likelihood that it will end up pretty close. I think Hillary is going to squeek by with a win a this point. Maybe 1 or 2%.