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Re: demands from islam... your thoughts?

he's got a point!

to be honest with you people can do what they want, but when they start to force it on others, its not on. If you want to come and live in the uk. Fine. but you should adapt to our ways of life. not vice a versa. we are tolerant, but u live here! if u dont like it, go home. things are getting out of hand and at the end of the day this shit is gonna get real messy sooner rather than later.

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this guy is awesome. if you think he's made some strong points on that video, check out the rest of his archive on youtube. Man, just grab a pack of cigarettes, a few beers and watch. Just intelligent stuff you don't see much of anymore....

[URL]http://youtube.com/user/patcondell[/URL]

(i like the "partying with baby jesus" video)

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I loved every second of it and I have a muslim sitting next to me and I pissed him off so bad, he yelled at me and I told him to go fuck himself.

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^ you better be careful. he might jihad your arse. :)

as far as adapting to their way of life, i can't comprehend why the UK and even the US have started bending over backwards to appeal to the muslim community so much. ofcourse, i can understand it to a certain degree out of respect for their religion, especially for the non-extremists. but i've read ridiculous things such as somewhere that in st. louis they now have loud speakers in certain areas to announce prayer time like they do over in islamic nations. not sure if that's true or not, maybe jenks or toasty can testify. and then i read shit where some cabbie muslims in south africa basically raped, undressed and fingered a young attractive girl, non muslim, in the middle of the street because she wore a miniskirt out in public and the cabbies think they should get a pardon for their actions! i'm sorry, wearing a miniskirt in south africa is allowed. raping a girl is not. so don't do it. and don't begin to think that because your religion is against wearing miniskirts that it is ok to do harm to others (probably an extreme case). there's a certain degree of tolerance......... religions need to be able to coincide. can you imaginea world with no girls in miniskirts or bikinis. :(

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[quote=Garrick;573813]^ you better be careful. he might jihad your arse. :)[/quote]

I have quite a bit of training in the art of smashing bones and breaking jaws, I don't think some crazy "sowdi" wants to mess with a crazy italian.

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i think we should all be focused on scientology more. what happens when the aliens come to take over??? you'll all be WISHING you listened to tom cruise.

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Good video. I've got some demands for Islam:

1. Stop treating women like shit.
2. Stop supporting and condoning terrorism.
3. Stop punishing people without even an attempt at a fair trial.
4. Stop forcing everyone in your countries to think and act the same way with respect to your religion.

If you do these things, then welcome to the 21st century.

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Not this retarded shit again

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^ inevitable, my friend. kinda like the kiss 100 threads spewed out weekly... ;)

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[QUOTE=Garrick;573813]but i've read ridiculous things such as somewhere that in st. louis they now have loud speakers in certain areas to announce prayer time like they do over in islamic nations. not sure if that's true or not, maybe jenks or toasty can testify. [/QUOTE]

I can speak to this, and I can tell you that you've heard wrong. There is a minaret being built in a heavily Bosnian neighborhood in South St. Louis City -- St. Louis has a huge Bosnian population, by the way -- but it has no speakers or sound system and is merely symbolic. No calls to prayer blaring out or anything like that. God forbid I have to crane my head around a single Muslim prayer tower to see any of the bazillion steeples of Catholic churches that dot the St. Louis skyline and ring bells every 15 minutes. :roll:

I'm not able to see that video for whatever reason, but I've got a pretty good idea of what's on it from the reactions. The demonizing of Muslims is really distasteful, I think. We've reached a point in our country where it's an insult to be called a Muslim, and "rumors" that a presidential candidate might be Muslim or photos of someone in traditionally Muslim attire is enough to whip people into a froth.

America is a nation of immigrants, and its greatest strength is its diversity. If people have a problem with an ethnic or religious group living in their neighborhood and having the same rights that they do, might I suggest that they pick a different country, because as time goes on, the nation is getting more heterogeneous -- and that's not a bad thing.

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^ goes to show you that not everything you read on the internet is true! i thought the story sounded a bit radical, but nevertheless, it looked legit. soooo hard to discriminate from the truth on the intermanet today.

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either way, im not going to the middle east any time soon, and i dont want any hardliners moving near me either.

personally, i find the religious beleifs horrendous within the religion. utterly disgusting and ancient, based on the stupidist , backwards rules out there, similar to what my born religion was in the past, (catholicism, and middle ages, inquisitions, and earlier)

religion is false, all of it, sadly, there is [I][B][U]tons of proof against it[/U][/B][/I], and people ignore it.

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am i the only one who isn't getting anything when opening the link in the original post?

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[quote=Miroslav;573830]Good video. I've got some demands for Islam:

1. Stop treating women bad.
2. Stop supporting and condoning terrorism.
3. Stop punishing people without even an attempt at a fair trial.
4. Stop forcing everyone in your countries to think and act the same way with respect to your religion.

If you do these things, then welcome to the 21st century.[/quote]

1. Stop treating women like shit.

[URL]http://youtube.com/watch?v=SKXWbMsGpmk&feature=related[/URL]

If you didn't like that for whatever reason, here, see what this Muslim women feels like. [URL]http://youtube.com/watch?v=zB5LB0xAPoo[/URL]

And if you have demands for Islam? Do some research and read the Qur'an in your spare time and find out what Islam really teaches. There are a lot of cultural teachings which have nothing to do with TRUE Islam. America has this bad image of Muslim women in American media. Like the guy in the first video said, don't ask Barbara Walters or CNN how Muslim women feel. Ask the Muslim women themselves! Anyhow, I can go through a list of all these misconceptions about Islam and its terrorism and its hatred against women and all that jazz. But if you look at what Islam really teaches, you will see that it is totally on the contrary from the viewpoints of American media. Just sharing my thoughts. ;)

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[quote=toasty;573858]The demonizing of Muslims is really distasteful, I think. [/quote]

Not as distasteful as the notion of convert or die!

The video blog does not demonise muslims or Islam, but challenges radical Islam and its financial and spiritual backers, The Saudis.

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[quote=davetlv;574124]Not as distasteful as the notion of convert or die!

The video blog does not demonise muslims or Islam, but challenges radical Islam and its financial and spiritual backers, The Saudis.[/quote]

Guess whose backing radical Zionism....lol the US. During Fiscal Year 2007, the U.S. gave more than [URL="http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/usaid.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]$6.8 million [I]per day[/I][/COLOR][/URL]

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this bloke is brilliant.. wonder what the price on his head is. i agree with just about everything he says, and its hilarious!

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[quote=ownit;574252]Guess whose backing radical Zionism....lol the US. During Fiscal Year 2007, the U.S. gave more than [URL="http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/usaid.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]$6.8 million [I]per day[/I][/COLOR][/URL][/quote]

Radical Zionism?????

Do you even know what you're talking about, after all your source material is dubious to say the least. Why not just publish figures directly from David Duke! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Hey this holy war is still raging on? I just chewed out a mooslim cause he believes that he can have many wives but women can't have many husbands. I was like check yourself buddy poligamy is illegal in this country unless it is on video, catch my drift ;).

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[quote=ownit;574252]Guess whose backing radical Zionism....lol the US. During Fiscal Year 2007, the U.S. gave more than [URL="http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/usaid.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]$6.8 million [I]per day[/I][/COLOR][/URL][/quote]

uhh maybe i'm out of the loop here...but where in the world are there israelies intentionally bombing civilians (ie. targeting women & children)?

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[URL]http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23315149-23109,00.html[/URL]

note to self: never shop with a muslim.

that's some pretty sick shit

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[quote=day_for_night;574625]uhh maybe i'm out of the loop here...but where in the world are there israelies intentionally bombing civilians (ie. targeting women & children)?[/quote]

wow buddy, u got a lot of news to catch up on. plz get off the O'Riley Fox crap.

You want statistics? [URL]http://www.ifamericansknew.org/[/URL]

Just the other day they killed 61 palestinians, killing children and civilians. I think im gonna get the old, OMG ANTI SEMITE. Please brotha. Its not the Jews I am against, it is the Zionist government of Israel, in which many Israelies themselves are against including Orthodox Rabbis. So don't tell me, ask the Rabbis.

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[quote=88Mariner;574721][URL]http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23315149-23109,00.html[/URL]

note to self: never shop with a muslim.

that's some pretty sick shit[/quote]

:shock:... I know every country has their own culture and every religion has their own beliefs, but i think a lot of these sick individuals hide behind their own interpretations of their religion to cover up their own fucked up "values". I dont even know what to say about someone that can do that to a fucking child. Death is no where near a good enough punishment

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[quote=ownit;574800]wow buddy, u got a lot of news to catch up on. plz get off the O'Riley Fox crap.

You want statistics? [URL]http://www.ifamericansknew.org/[/URL]

Just the other day they killed 61 palestinians, killing children and civilians. I think im gonna get the old, OMG ANTI SEMITE. Please brotha. Its not the Jews I am against, it is the Zionist government of Israel, in which many Israelies themselves are against including Orthodox Rabbis. So don't tell me, ask the Rabbis.[/quote]

You really should widen your reading list - obviously you seem to know very little.

Now lets get down to facts - to say its the zionist government of Israel you object to is nothing more that BS - what you object to is the Israeli Government, and the fact that Jews have returned to their home land of Eretz Yisrael and have built up a modern successful country in their ancient homeland while their neighbours have been manipulated, abused and used by their own kind in keeping them in sub-human conditions.

You object to the very nation of the State of Israel - you're reading matter does nothing more that confirm that fact.

Be honest with at least that and maybe you might be taken seriously.

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[quote=ownit;574800]wow buddy, u got a lot of news to catch up on. plz get off the O'Riley Fox crap.

You want statistics? [URL]http://www.ifamericansknew.org/[/URL]

Just the other day they killed 61 palestinians, killing children and civilians. I think im gonna get the old, OMG ANTI SEMITE. Please brotha. Its not the Jews I am against, it is the Zionist government of Israel, in which many Israelies themselves are against including Orthodox Rabbis. So don't tell me, ask the Rabbis.[/quote]

well, i live in canada, so i don't watch fox news.

and yes, civilians do end up getting killed in airstrikes. its inevitable when bombing targets in civilian areas. happens with the US when they bomb, and any other country that does airstrikes. civilians end up in the cross-fire. especially in the case of palestine, cause the militant fucks are cowards, and set up their operations in heavily populated areas. they shield themselves with civilians. it makes me ill.

now re-read what i originally posted. i said israel does not intentionally target civilians...where as groups like hamas fire unguided rockets into israelie cities. this is, by definition, targeting civilians.'

there is a difference, whether you want to acknowledge it or not.

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[quote=davetlv;574930]You really should widen your reading list - obviously you seem to know very little.

Now lets get down to facts - to say its the zionist government of Israel you object to is nothing more that BS - what you object to is the Israeli Government, and the fact that Jews have returned to their home land of Eretz Yisrael and have built up a modern successful country in their ancient homeland while their neighbours have been manipulated, abused and used by their own kind in keeping them in sub-human conditions.

You object to the very nation of the State of Israel - you're reading matter does nothing more that confirm that fact.

Be honest with at least that and maybe you might be taken seriously.[/quote] haha...too funny. your one hard headed egg. Of course, you're gonna run away from the truth. [URL]http://youtube.com/watch?v=M9OIqy6md9w&feature=related[/URL] <---- No one will ever give 2-shits about what these REAL Jews are trying to say because it goes against the Apartheid Zionist regime of Israel. Sad. I hope you one day figure it out.:roll:

ps...notice the sign in the vid..." Torah forbids a Jewish State". If the Jewish holy book, forbids a Jewish State, then the Israeli Gov. cannot be real Jews. Just goes to show my point in previous post where I said its not the Jews I hate, its the Zionists.

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[quote=ownit;575049]haha...too funny. your one hard headed egg. Of course, you're gonna run away from the truth. [URL]http://youtube.com/watch?v=M9OIqy6md9w&feature=related[/URL] <---- No one will ever give 2-shits about what these REAL Jews are trying to say because it goes against the Apartheid Zionist regime of Israel. Sad. I hope you one day figure it out.:roll:

ps...notice the sign in the vid..." Torah forbids a Jewish State". If the Jewish holy book, forbids a Jewish State, then the Israeli Gov. cannot be real Jews. Just goes to show my point in previous post where I said its not the Jews I hate, its the Zionists.[/quote]

Dear oh dear, you're arguments might have more strength if you didn't rely on quoting either nutcase conspiracy sites or a small fringe of ultra orthodox jews that number in the region of 1500 people world wide.

Try again ownit - you're bringing absolutely nothing credible to the table - bravo!

Next!

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[quote=davetlv;575053]Dear oh dear, you're arguments might have more strength if you didn't rely on quoting either nutcase conspiracy sites or a small fringe of ultra orthodox jews that number in the region of 1500 people world wide.

Try again ownit - you're bringing absolutely nothing credible to the table - bravo!

Next![/quote] ahahahaha nutcase conspiracy sites.... thats a good one. You show him statistics...." nah, its a conspiracy site". Its ok buddy. I dont expect you to change your way of thinking overnight. Just maybe some day youll realize who the real terrorists in the world are.:D

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Man i am really sick of these things , i mean i have Atheist, christians , jews , buddhists etc friends and i never start "Shit man your religion has this and that .. o its crap " Whats wrong with you people ??!!!! Being a Muslim myself i am entitled to my own beliefs and i get offended when someone starts talking bullshit about it .. Go and read please before talking words out of the mouth of some reporters or media people and repeating it whoever is talking about polygamy ....man rarely anyone now does it and just FYI you cant do it unless your current wife agrees ..sounds funny ? Well the reason its there is that if for example she turns out to be impotent and she agrees that it is unfair for the man but she still wants to be his wife then polygamy would be an option ***..and this by the way doesnt say that your just gonna marry a new wife just to fuck her and get babies out of her and throw her away she would be entitled to exactly the same rights as your previous one and they have to like each other .. SO lets out it this way its fuking hard to have legitimate polygamy and only in extreme extreme cases it would be allowed .. Again i am not sure but i think its stated in the quran that you can only have polygamy if you are sure your going to be fair between all your wives , and in the second verse it says and god knows that your not going to be fair .. so what does that mean ? Go and read before making any ignorant replies I respect all people who respect other people and appreciate mankind .. i despise all those who see themselves superior to other humans simply because they are stupid

***(now ur thinking its so unfair to women cause if the man is impotent whats the woman going to do .. she can claim divorce , divorce is allowed in our religion , and FYI in islam the wife doesnt have to spend a single penny on her family i.e all she earns is for her, the man has to provide for all the needs of the family and the wife and the house and etc)

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whats your point?^^^^

the issue is with the extremists that interperet the quran for their own sick and twisted "values"