Re: Top Climatogolist: Global Warming is Hooey

[quote=toasty;503509]Fight absurdity with absurdity, I say. As I indicated in [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43155"]this thread[/URL], it is high time that rational people stopped legitimizing preposterous positions by taking the bait and debating them as if they were worthy of serious consideration. The Bush Noise Machine relies upon the idea that if you repeat something enough, people will eventually believe it must be credible regardless of whether or not there is any basis in fact. [B]For example, some people (probably including you) still honestly believe that Saddam had something to do with 9/11 -- notwithstanding that not even Bush makes that claim anymore.[/B]

It's ridiculous, it hurts the process, and I'm not going to participate in it anymore. Instead, ludicrous arguments will be responded to in kind:

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The bold can be labeled as pure dishonesty. Can anyone honestly name any prominent conservative or republican that stated that Saddam had anything to do with 9/11? Bush never used that as an argument. Never.

That is a broad assumption by the left, yet no one holds this view on the right. I find it amuzing how the left continually uses that argument, being that no one has stated such.

Your comments border on the absurd. And please quit using your tired photos with your lame punch-lines.

It's not funny!

Re: Top Climatogolist: Global Warming is Hooey

[quote=KinKyJ;503510]So basicly you're saying we should all relax because CO2 is "not a pollutant"? You haven't read the post just above yours.[/quote]

No. I wholeheartedly agree with you. It's obvious that there are areas that contain high amounts of carbon dioxide. The heart of all of the large cities throughout the world, no doubt.

And I am all for new alternatives to energy. I just do not buy these fear-mongering articles coming out from scientists, such as the recent one saying that global warming is worse than nuclear war.

The claims are getting more absurd by the day. These guys will say anything in order to get grants and funding. And it's as if they have to keep pushing the envelope to get recognized:

[URL]http://en.rian.ru/analysis/20070627/67914064.html[/URL]

Re: Top Climatogolist: Global Warming is Hooey

[QUOTE=cosmo;503529]The bold can be labeled as pure dishonesty. Can anyone honestly name any prominent conservative or republican that stated that Saddam had anything to do with 9/11? Bush never used that as an argument. Never.

That is a broad assumption by the left, yet no one holds this view on the right. I find it amuzing how the left continually uses that argument, being that no one has stated such. [/QUOTE]

OK, by virtue of word-parsing, it is conceivable that Bush never actually said, "Saddam Hussein was personally involved in the 9/11 attacks." Those words probably never left his lips, I'll give you that. Assuming that to be the case, though, check this out from September 6, 2003:

[QUOTE][B]Poll: 70% believe Saddam, 9-11 link[/B] WASHINGTON (AP) ? Nearly seven in 10 Americans believe it is likely that ousted Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein was personally involved in the Sept. 11 attacks, says a poll out almost two years after the terrorists' strike against this country.

Sixty-nine percent in a Washington Post poll published Saturday said they believe it is likely the Iraqi leader was personally involved in the attacks carried out by al-Qaeda. A majority of Democrats, Republicans and independents believe it's likely Saddam was involved. [/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2003-09-06-poll-iraq_x.htm[/url]

Are you telling me that 70% of the country -- Republicans, Democrats and Independents -- all came to this conclusion on their own, wholly unaided by anything Bush and his buddies might have said? Come on, man. [B]My[/B] comments [B]border[/B] on the absurd? You can't even see the Border of Absurd from where you're standing. You are at least two states past, by my estimation.

The backpedaling is obnoxious:

-Saddam was involved in 9/11!!! Oh wait, he wasn't? We never said that. -Saddam has WMDs!!! Oh wait, he doesn't? OK, he was still an imminent threat, though, sooooo... -Saddam was an imminent threat!!!!!! Hang on a sec -- never mind...

It goes on an on. :roll:

[QUOTE=cosmo;503529]And please quit using your tired photos with your lame punch-lines.

It's not funny![/QUOTE]

Not really intended to make you or really anyone other than me laugh. I don't really participate in the nonsense thread in GYY, so it gives me an excuse to look up ridiculous photos, which is fun. The bald cat in the sweater was my favorite so far. :D

Re: Top Climatogolist: Global Warming is Hooey

[QUOTE]"The reason I keep insisting that there was a relationship between Iraq and Saddam and al Qaeda [is] because there was a relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda," Bush told reporters after a Cabinet meeting at the White House. [/QUOTE] see: [url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A48970-2004Jun17[/url] and [QUOTE]In a speech to the conservative Madison Institute in Orlando on Monday, Cheney called Hussein ''a patron of terrorism" and said ''he had long established ties with Al Qaeda."[/QUOTE] see: [url]http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2004/06/16/bush_backs_cheney_on_assertion_linking_hussein_al_qaeda/[/url]

nothing misleading about either of those...I'm sure :roll:

and one more for sanity's sake: :BangHead:

Re: Top Climatogolist: Global Warming is Hooey

[quote=rubyraks;503604]see: [URL]http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A48970-2004Jun17[/URL] and

see: [URL]http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2004/06/16/bush_backs_cheney_on_assertion_linking_hussein_al_qaeda/[/URL]

nothing misleading about either of those...I'm sure :roll:

and one more for sanity's sake: :BangHead:[/quote]

You are getting the two mixed up. Saying that Saddam was tied to al qaeda, which he was, is different than saying that Saddam was responsible for 9/11.

And they never said that.

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suggesting that there were ties between saddam and al qaeda, while knowing they in actuality hated each other and all at the same time as we were fighting al qaeda in afghanistan because of 9-11 is intentionally misleading and highly suggestive, regardless of the fact that they never actually said saddam was involved in 9-11. It was a natural logical progression for people to make and the administration never corrected the misunderstanding, all the while knowing the misunderstanding was out there and in fact they completely preyed on this misunderstanding in getting us into Iraq. They're just as guilty as having said it explicitly.

and I'm officially done...you could just go on believing whatever you'd like to believe...whatever makes you feel better. :BangHead:

Re: Top Climatogolist: Global Warming is Hooey

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Re: Top Climatogolist: Global Warming is Hooey

[quote=toasty;501355]Can't we try to live greener just because?[/quote]

Exactly, it can't hurt anything. Whether the scientists are right or wrong it's not that hard to do...