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essentially saying, go elsewhere, and we will fuck with you even more. so take it up the ass and enjoy it.

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[I][I]can we kill those opec guys? [/I][/I]

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hahahha.. i told you guys this in an earlier thread... OPEC cant control gas prices???? Those guys should be shot for what they are doing.

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Wow, that's one hell of a threat...curious to hear what if any reaction there is to it. Frankly, I wonder iof anyone has the balls to tell them to f^*k off!

[QUOTE=Jenks;495862][I][I]can we kill those opec guys? [/I][/I][/QUOTE] Isn't that why we went into Iraq? ;)

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[quote=rubyraks;496062]Wow, that's one hell of a threat...curious to hear what if any reaction there is to it. Frankly, I wonder iof anyone has the balls to tell them to f^*k off!

Isn't that why we went into Iraq? ;)[/quote]

Yeah. I really do wish we could just get onto another fuel source, so we could tell all the towelhead princes and their camels to fuck off. :lol:

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Here's what I just don't get about this country. We've led the world in innovation over the last century or so. We managed to pull together an atomic bomb by working our asses off during WWII. We managed to win the space race by doing the same in the 60s. All incredibly ahead of their time technologies. Yet, we've gotten so caught up in dumbing down our population and arguing against global warming that we've yet to do much on the subject. We could be the world's leaders again and make a killing, economically speaking not miltarily, if we just got off our collective asses and worked towards something again. My wouldn't that be a pleasant change...The US actually working towards a positive goal for both it's and the world's benefit. Pity we have such a broken political system that doesn't allow for change. :(

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[quote=rubyraks;496235]Here's what I just don't get about this country. We've led the world in innovation over the last century or so. We managed to pull together an atomic bomb by working our asses off during WWII. We managed to win the space race by doing the same in the 60s. All incredibly ahead of their time technologies. Yet, we've gotten so caught up in dumbing down our population and arguing against global warming that we've yet to do much on the subject. We could be the world's leaders again and make a killing, economically speaking not miltarily, if we just got off our collective asses and worked towards something again. My wouldn't that be a pleasant change...The US actually working towards a positive goal for both it's and the world's benefit. Pity we have such a broken political system that doesn't allow for change. :([/quote]Like Sean has said a few times already in other threads: we need a new trans atlantic coalition. Putin has a lot of countries in a stranglehold with the russian gas, the OPEC bending the entire world over... Fuck that shit, alernative energy and bio fuel is imo the only tool we have to overcome our dependance of instable and extremist regions.

So let the OPEC threaten the West with blowing up the oil prices: it's yet another reason to invest more resources in R&D which will free us from our oil addiction.

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simply put, the best way to handle OPEC would be to tariff the shit out of all the products they import. think. they are essentially void of any vegetation. make things like bread, milk, wheat, flour so friggin expensive to them, and let em know it. force their hand to lower oil as the proverbial olive branch in order for us to keep thier imported goods cheap. starve them into submission. it is slowly working in Gaza with the Hamas lead gov't, it could work when we implement it on a large scale with the OPEC nations.

ie. tell em if oil goes over 35 a barrel, all vital imports to thier country will begin to match the price of oil, unit by unit. they will stand tall, but only for awhile. eventually, they will get so in need of goods produced outside, they will have to give in or starve.

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Haha....the price of oil will fall like a giant squid into the ocean when 1. Demand decreases, and 2. People realize there still is essentially centuries, if not more, of oil to be used.

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^^I like the way you think...even if you're an asshat ;)

That's an interesting approach to dealing with OPEC, but I wonder why is it that the non-OPEC nations can't get themselves to truly think outside the box in dealing with them?!

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Why thank you.;)

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Your welcome, but the true asshat knows who he is and so do I ;)

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[quote=rubyraks;496711]Your welcome, but the true asshat knows who he is and so do I ;)[/quote]

hehe

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[quote=asdf_asshat;496645]simply put, the best way to handle OPEC would be to tariff the shit out of all the products they import. think. they are essentially void of any vegetation. make things like bread, milk, wheat, flour so friggin expensive to them, and let em know it. force their hand to lower oil as the proverbial olive branch in order for us to keep thier imported goods cheap. starve them into submission. it is slowly working in Gaza with the Hamas lead gov't, it could work when we implement it on a large scale with the OPEC nations.

ie. tell em if oil goes over 35 a barrel, all vital imports to thier country will begin to match the price of oil, unit by unit. they will stand tall, but only for awhile. eventually, they will get so in need of goods produced outside, they will have to give in or starve.[/quote]

I would expect China to fill that void....

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quit blaming opec. if the govs leaders didnt gain butt loads of proffit of the oil trade they deff would off invest in different formz of energie, fuel. they are willing to fuck over the people for their personall gain. and one more thing.lobbyist, whos gona fund their election campaign if they dont support the major oil companies. what about exxon and their multimillion profits. if u really had balls u would ride the buss to work. and one more thing last thing i guess. howcome the goverment has control of gass prices during election time and not the rest of the year?!

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[quote=KinKyJ;496559]Like Sean has said a few times already in other threads: we need a new trans atlantic coalition. Putin has a lot of countries in a stranglehold with the russian gas, the OPEC bending the entire world over... Fuck that shit, alernative energy and bio fuel is imo the only tool we have to overcome our dependance of instable and extremist regions.

So let the OPEC threaten the West with blowing up the oil prices: it's yet another reason to invest more resources in R&D which will free us from our oil addiction.[/quote]

um....we could drill in the US? we could resort to building new nuclear power plants. but that won't happen, now will it? it's not an addiction. it's a necessity. it's like saying tap water is an addiction...

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[quote=88Mariner;497280]um....we could drill in the US? we could resort to building new nuclear power plants. but that won't happen, now will it? it's not an addiction. it's a necessity. it's like saying tap water is an addiction...[/quote]

It's a 'necessity' because we've conditioned ourselves to accept only oil as our resource. We made ourselves dependent on it which is pathetic.

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^^^ exactly my point.

I'm involved in the safety coordination of the building of a giant wind farm off the Belgian coast. The choice between sucking oil company/OPEC dick and giving them the finger is a political one...