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Conservapedia

33 durable postsStarted 2007-03-08Latest 2007-06-19
#38920Post 1 of 33

Check it out -- Wikipedia for (really far right) conservatives:

[url]http://www.conservapedia.com/Main_Page[/url]

[QUOTE]Conservapedia is a much-needed alternative to Wikipedia, which is increasingly anti-Christian and anti-American. On Wikipedia, many of the dates are provided in the anti-Christian "C.E." instead of "A.D.", which Conservapedia uses. Christianity receives no credit for the great advances and discoveries it inspired, such as those of the Renaissance. Read a list of many [URL="http://www.conservapedia.com/Examples_of_Bias_in_Wikipedia"]Examples of Bias in Wikipedia[/URL].[/QUOTE]

Make sure you follow the link to the examples of bias in Wikipedia. :CrackUp: For other laughs, search on "Evolution" (which will quickly correct/redirect you to "[I]Theory[/I] of Evolution").

#822193Post 2 of 33

Re: Conservapedia

christianity deserves props for great advances? lol, now THAT is laughable!

#822206Post 3 of 33

Re: Conservapedia

Finally, an objective online resource...:roll:

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This site is a riot, I could be on this for days. I did a search for the term "Buddhism" and this is what came up:

[quote]Buddhism is the fourth largest religion in the world. It is a belief system which teaches that desire causes suffering and if desire is eliminated, [URL="http://www.conservapedia.com/Nirvana"][COLOR=#0000ff]Nirvana[/COLOR][/URL] is attained.

Legend has it that Budhism's foundations lie with an Indian prince, Siddhartha Gautama, who, after observing the suffering of his people, longed to discover the reason for suffering and pain. There are many romanticized accounts and theories as to the course of Gautama's life. One particularly simplified story proclaims that he went into meditation for a long time seated under a tree, and after finishing his period of meditation formed Buddhism.

Buddhism teaches that in order to attain Nirvana (a complete contentment, and separation from suffering), you must follow the [URL="http://www.conservapedia.com/Eightfold_Path"][COLOR=#0000ff]Eightfold Path[/COLOR][/URL].

Buddhism benefited most from trading and/or commercial activity.(<- can someone justify this?)[/quote]

And [I]that's [/I]it - that's the entire entry. A belief system older than Christianity summed up in a few short sentences, brilliant. I especially like the usage of phrases like "Legend has it" and "romanticized accounts".

Also - check out the first line on the page for "Homosexuality":

[quote]Homosexuality is a sexual attraction between members of the same sex. It is condemned by the [URL="http://www.conservapedia.com/Bible"][COLOR=#0000ff]Bible[/COLOR][/URL] as an egregiously sinful act. [/quote]

Seriously, that's comedy right there.

Great find toasty, this is going to keep me entertained for hours!

#822216Post 4 of 33

Re: Conservapedia

[quote=88Mariner;458585]christianity deserves props for great advances? lol, now THAT is laughable![/quote]

yes it is true that Christianity did not help today society advancement at all

you moron

#822241Post 5 of 33

Re: Conservapedia

The growing list of examples of bias and errors on [URL="http://www.conservapedia.com/Wikipedia"][COLOR=#0000ff]Wikipedia[/COLOR][/URL]. Please add to this, and also contribute entries to [URL="http://www.conservapedia.com/"][COLOR=#0000ff]Conservapedia[/COLOR][/URL]. [QUOTE] Wikipedia allows the use of B.C.E. instead of B.C. and C.E. instead of A.D. The dates are based on the birth of [URL="http://www.conservapedia.com/Jesus"][COLOR=#0000ff]Jesus[/COLOR][/URL], so why pretend otherwise? Conservapedia is Christian-friendly and exposes the [URL="http://www.conservapedia.com/CE"][COLOR=#0000ff]CE[/COLOR][/URL] deception. [/QUOTE] Deception? or trying to use a term more palatable for anyone anywhere?

[QUOTE]Wikipedia's entry for the Renaissance denies any credit to Christianity, its primary inspiration. [/QUOTE] Really? Primary inspiration? Or limiting force of this period? You decide....

[QUOTE]Polls show that about twice as many Americans identify themselves as "conservative" compared with "liberal", and that ratio has been increasing for two decades. But on Wikipedia, about three times as many editors identify themselves as "liberal" compared with "conservative" That suggests [B]Wikipedia is six times more liberal than the American public[/B]. [/QUOTE]

Suggests, perhaps, but does not prove. Actually, this proves jack squat. What does this make conservapedia, then? Neutral? Objective? Or just one-sided?

[QUOTE]Wikipedia's entry on [URL="http://www.conservapedia.com/Abortion"][COLOR=#0000ff]abortion[/COLOR][/URL] reads like a brochure for the abortion industry. Wikipedia denies and omits the results of 16 out of 17 statistically significant studies showing increased risk of breast cancer from abortion. Wikipedia's entry also omits the evidence of abortion causing increased premature birth of subsequent children. [/QUOTE] Well, at least there was no objection to the rest of the entry! (note: the short list on the religion of Buddhism...)

[QUOTE]Initially a Wikipedia admin named "Nearly Headless Nick" deleted, without explaining his decision, an entry about Conservapedia. Later, in response to publicity, Wikipedia posted a new entry about Conservapedia. Wikipedia's entry is filled with obvious bias, numerous errors, out-of-date citations, and self-serving false statements.[URL="http://www.conservapedia.com/Examples_of_Bias_in_Wikipedia#_note-4"][COLOR=#0000ff][5][/COLOR][/URL] For example, the Wikipedia entry made the absurd claim that Conservapedia says the "General Theory of Relativity" has "nothing to do with physics." Wikipedia's claim was completely false and unsupported by its citations. After this example was posted here, Wikipedia removed its error but has left other false and outdated claims in its entry, reflecting Wikipedia's pervasive bias. [/QUOTE] So you spin this theory in the other direction...and commit the same error. After reading this entry, the byline of "nothing to do with phsyics" really sticks!

[QUOTE]Wikipedia's entry for conservative physicist [URL="http://www.conservapedia.com/Edward_Teller"][COLOR=#0000ff]Edward Teller[/COLOR][/URL] promotes the liberal attempt to blame him for the government taking away the security clearance of [URL="http://www.conservapedia.com/J._Robert_Oppenheimer"][COLOR=#0000ff]J. Robert Oppenheimer[/COLOR][/URL]. Teller testified, "If it is a question of wisdom and judgment, as demonstrated by actions since 1945, then I would say one would be wiser not to grant clearance." Wikipedia first called this statement "damning", and after criticism here replaced its term with "problematic".[URL="http://www.conservapedia.com/Examples_of_Bias_in_Wikipedia#_note-5"][COLOR=#0000ff][6][/COLOR][/URL] In light of how multiple spies leaked secrets under Oppenheimer's supervision in the [URL="http://www.conservapedia.com/Manhattan_Project"][COLOR=#0000ff]Manhattan Project[/COLOR][/URL] and spying even worsened afterwards, Wikipedia's spin on Teller's statement is unjustified bias. [/QUOTE] Ok, in comparing both entries, conservapedia still has very little on Teller, only making a few points about how he was conservative and the liberals hate him. Thanks for uh...clearing that up? Now, what about this guy, specifically?

i would do more...but maybe for fun on a rainy day. This site may be laughable until you realize that VOTERS are actually reading it for information.

#822243Post 6 of 33

Re: Conservapedia

[quote=RiseandShine;458615]yes it is true that Christianity did not help today society advancement at all

you moron[/quote]

well if by "society advancement" you mean christian theocracy...i guess we could agree.

How exactly did Christianity 'help'? Was god divinely inspiring inventors? Or....

#822245Post 7 of 33

Re: Conservapedia

Christianity comes with an insitution right? (basic thinking) true that institution did some bad things (I'm reading your mind) but it did a lot of good things, just think about it

#822246Post 8 of 33

Re: Conservapedia

and yes, theocracy is part of Christianity, it's a religion, remember?

#822268Post 9 of 33

Re: Conservapedia

[quote=RiseandShine;458615]yes it is true that Christianity did not help today society advancement at all[/quote]

held society back is more like it.

#822287Post 10 of 33

Re: Conservapedia

you guys must be trolling me

#822294Post 11 of 33

Re: Conservapedia

[QUOTE=toasty;458584]Check it out -- Wikipedia for (really far right) conservatives:

[url]http://www.conservapedia.com/Main_Page[/url]

Make sure you follow the link to the examples of bias in Wikipedia. :CrackUp: For other laughs, search on "Evolution" (which will quickly correct/redirect you to "[I]Theory[/I] of Evolution").[/QUOTE]

Finally a good source of information along with Fox News.

#822346Post 12 of 33

Re: Conservapedia

[quote=Jenks;458670]held society back is more like it.[/quote]

this is true.

#822418Post 13 of 33

Re: Conservapedia

[quote=Jenks;458670]held society back is more like it.[/quote]

The chicken and egg debate.

Without Christianity would there have been the enviroment for the development of enlightened thinking?

Not that i'm saying Christianity (really Roman Catholicism) has been the best over the last 2000 years. Last 600 years have not shown Christianity in a good light at all, tbh we would have been better off without it.

#822453Post 14 of 33

Re: Conservapedia

[quote=88Mariner;458645]well if by "society advancement" you mean christian theocracy...i guess we could agree.

How exactly did Christianity 'help'? Was god divinely inspiring inventors? Or....[/quote]

[COLOR=silver]I am the furthest thing from a Christian apologist, but to be fair, Christianity can be credited with preserving literacy in Europe in the 9th Century. Of course they were also rewriting much of history in the process, but still... western culture might not have survived the Dark Ages if not for Christianity.[/COLOR][COLOR=black] [/COLOR]

#822480Post 15 of 33

Re: Conservapedia

Chistianity was thefounding for most institutions in Europe they were the ones educating people they were the ones redistributing wealth has anyone of you opened a history book? why is that people have to critisize chistianity for its conservatism? yes, there's a lot of bad about it - extremely bad. but I can tell you one thing, you certainly wouldn't be sitting here without it for the enlightement, of course it helped and was the foundation for it - and as like a lot of situations, the creation killed its creator

you guys really leave me speechless

#822503Post 16 of 33

Re: Conservapedia

hahahaha...i searched for "inquisition"...and this is ALL i got

[quote] [B]Inquisition[/B]

[B]From Conservapedia[/B]

A investigation by the Church. It used horrible, sometimes life-threatening torture to make people confess their sins. [/quote]

umm, thats alot of detail, wouldn't you say?

#822512Post 17 of 33

Re: Conservapedia

[img]http://www.qrz.com/uploads/post-7-71517-Monty_Python_Spanish_Inquisition.jpg[/img]

[I]sometimes [/I]life-threatening?

#822632Post 18 of 33

Re: Conservapedia

[quote]Chistianity was thefounding for most institutions in Europe they were the ones educating people they were the ones redistributing wealth has anyone of you opened a history book? why is that people have to critisize chistianity for its conservatism? yes, there's a lot of bad about it - extremely bad. but I can tell you one thing, you certainly wouldn't be sitting here without it for the enlightement, of course it helped and was the foundation for it - and as like a lot of situations, the creation killed its creator

you guys really leave me speechless [/quote]

They were redistributing wealth? Vassals and nobles ring a bell? Why do you think the French revolution happened?

And educating them? By that do you mean educating them on God and then exiling those who decided to seek rationale explanations about the cosmos and various other scientific areas.

High school history books are plagued with christian non-sense, completely forgetting about the rest of the world who contributed to the wealth and progress of Europe.

And people criticize Christianity because it continues to try and show the mechanisms of life without rationale thought. They criticize it because it breeds ignorance and only has room for a limited scope.

No, we wouldn't be sitting here without the help of multitudes of ethnically different people. And just because we are America, does not mean everything is hunky dory over here.

Christianity, like any other religion, exploits individuals and devoids them of rationale thought.

#822640Post 19 of 33

Re: Conservapedia

U need some help, definately

[quote=Localizer;459078]They were redistributing wealth? Vassals and nobles ring a bell? Why do you think the French revolution happened? .[/quote]

Revolution happened for other reasons. In those days, you gave to the church because the church was running the hospital, the hospices, the asylums and schools. Giving to the church was a way to give to poor people. Vassals and nobles were more statutes of the monarchy - linked to church but quite distinct institutions

[quote=Localizer;459078]And educating them? By that do you mean educating them on God and then exiling those who decided to seek rationale explanations about the cosmos and various other scientific areas..[/quote]

Again, don't piss me off by taking the extremes, Christianity has some I know and I'm the first one to show them. But whether you like it or not, they were the ones building schools. Even today a lot of academic institutions are run by people like Jesuits

[quote=Localizer;459078]High school history books are plagued with christian non-sense, completely forgetting about the rest of the world who contributed to the wealth and progress of Europe...[/quote]

Did I say that other religions or culture did not contribute? No fucking way, they all did, that's not even the point. Talking about history books and bias in them is another story - I can give you an example: history books change at each presidential term in France like in a lot of countries - again, not the point

[quote=Localizer;459078]And people criticize Christianity because it continues to try and show the mechanisms of life without rationale thought. They criticize it because it breeds ignorance and only has room for a limited scope.[/quote]

Again, don't take extremes - you seem young my little one. You need to understand that these movements are not one. The Christian church has a lot of different variances and I'm with you on the fact that creationism is dumb. To be honest, I don’t get the end of your sentence here.

[quote=Localizer;459078]No, we wouldn't be sitting here without the help of multitudes of ethnically different people. And just because we are America, does not mean everything is hunky dory over here.[/quote]

See above, in addition to this, European culture wouldn't be the same without Judaism or here Islam. Just calm down, look at the broader picture and stop puking nonsense. Never said everything was nice in the US. btw, I live here too

[quote=Localizer;459078]Christianity, like any other religion, exploits individuals and devoids them of rationale thought.[/quote]

Being Christian, I can tell you one thing: you're not forced to do anything and no one is exploiting me. Open the bible next time you're in a hotel room.

#822661Post 20 of 33

Re: Conservapedia

Cowardly dj is that you?

#822663Post 21 of 33

Re: Conservapedia

[quote=RiseandShine;459087]U need some help, definately

Revolution happened for other reasons. In those days, you gave to the church because the church was running the hospital, the hospices, the asylums and schools. Giving to the church was a way to give to poor people. Vassals and nobles were more statutes of the monarchy - linked to church but quite distinct institutions

Again, don't piss me off by taking the extremes, Christianity has some I know and I'm the first one to show them. But whether you like it or not, they were the ones building schools. Even today a lot of academic institutions are run by people like Jesuits

Did I say that other religions or culture did not contribute? No fucking way, they all did, that's not even the point. Talking about history books and bias in them is another story - I can give you an example: history books change at each presidential term in France like in a lot of countries - again, not the point

Again, don't take extremes - you seem young my little one. You need to understand that these movements are not one. The Christian church has a lot of different variances and I'm with you on the fact that creationism is dumb. To be honest, I don?t get the end of your sentence here.

See above, in addition to this, European culture wouldn't be the same without Judaism or here Islam. Just calm down, look at the broader picture and stop puking nonsense. Never said everything was nice in the US. btw, I live here too

Being Christian, I can tell you one thing: you're not forced to do anything and no one is exploiting me. Open the bible next time you're in a hotel room.[/quote]

  1. They gave to hospitals and schools in the name of God. And was taught in those schools? Religious texts. And hospitals? what a great way to be castrated by society if your child had a deformity or even to be told what to do with your well-being. The church had ultimate power over one's life, whether they liked it or not. To add, nobility and religion were self-ingrained - if you were a noble, you consequently held a high position in the ranks of the church. So yes, unrest and abuse by the church helped lead to the revolution. In turn, the donations and alms were pretty much useless.

  2. Perhaps maybe private universities. I can't really see jesuits running the more notable private universities in the states.

  3. So then what was the point of 'opening up a history book?'

  4. It's not just creationism, it's a multitude of other facets such as ethnocentrism and the condemnation of other individuals. My last sentence was meant to show that christianity has a very limited view and encourages people to NOT look outside the box.

  5. Eh? I have looked at the broader picture. I guess if you don't want your sentences to be misinterpretated, you should probably post a little more after them rather than leaving it up to us to figure the point you're trying to make.

  6. There's no reason for me to open the bible. It hasn't really held water in it's proclamations. Furthermore, I don't tend to read books that were probably started by some guy that ate some mushrooms.

#822725Post 22 of 33

Re: Conservapedia

Bunch of non-believers in this thread.

#830767Post 23 of 33

Re: Conservapedia

funny i tried to search for the term "nigggers" and nothing came up BWHAHHAHAH (no offence to black people )

not republican enough.

#830782Post 24 of 33

Re: Conservapedia

^^^yeah i searched negro first thing...

France??? short history in 200 words i.e. toilet reading for degenerates and in-breads!

France is a country in Western Europe. At its height, the French Empire rivaled the British Empire, with colonies in every corner of the world. It continues to be a strong presence in academia and has been the birthplace of countless renowned scholars. It remains a powerhouse in the [URL="http://www.conservapedia.com/European_Union"][COLOR=#0000ff]European Union[/COLOR][/URL], often at odds with the [URL="http://www.conservapedia.com/United_Kingdom"][COLOR=#0000ff]United Kingdom[/COLOR][/URL] on issues of EU policy. The capital city is Paris, often called the "City of Lights" due to its renown for a center of learning and philosophy. It was a founding member of the European Coal and Steel treaty which led to the EEC and EU. It greatly assisted then-Great Britain's North American colonies both militarily and financially in their effort to gain independence, and established universal legal codes in much of the non-Anglo-Saxon west. It has made a number of philosophical contributions to the world, including Descartes and Sartre, existentialism and post modernism. It gifted the Statue of Liberty to the USA in celebration of its independence, echoing the French aid given to the colonies during the American Revolutionary War. In March of 2003 A.D., France did not participate in the alliance that attacked [URL="http://www.conservapedia.com/Iraq"][COLOR=#800080]Iraq[/COLOR][/URL], with its ostensible aim to remove the [URL="http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Baathist&action=edit"][COLOR=#0000ff]Baathist[/COLOR][/URL] regime, suspected of hiding weapons of mass destruction. [B][[URL="http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=France&action=edit&section=1"][COLOR=#0000ff]edit[/COLOR][/URL]] Gaul[/B]

Back during the time of the [URL="http://www.conservapedia.com/Roman_Republic"][COLOR=#0000ff]Roman Republic[/COLOR][/URL], France was a territory called Gaul. It was home to many fierce Saxon tribes. [URL="http://www.conservapedia.com/Julius_Caesar"][COLOR=#0000ff]Julius Caesar[/COLOR][/URL] personally led the invasion. [B][[URL="http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=France&action=edit&section=2"][COLOR=#0000ff]edit[/COLOR][/URL]] Frankland under Clovis[/B]

France is named after the Franks, a Saxon tribe who established Soissons, the capital. A Frank called [URL="http://www.conservapedia.com/Clovis"][COLOR=#0000ff]Clovis[/COLOR][/URL] united the Franks and established Frankland Retrieved from "[URL="http://www.conservapedia.com/France"][COLOR=#800080]http://www.conservapedia.com/France[/COLOR][/URL]"

#830812Post 25 of 33

Re: Conservapedia

I'm glad that there is a group of people who are looking out to make sure that misinformation I might access is both properly Christian and American. Thank you for showing the way, Conservapedia guys! Don't know where I'd be without you.

And regarding whether Christianity has done [I]anything[/I] good to help society advance...don't be nutty, guys, of course it has. Read your history books.

#830941Post 26 of 33

Re: Conservapedia

now if only we could get an Islamepedia to laugh at how ridiculous thier interpretations are..... no more boring evenings!

#830976Post 27 of 33

Re: Conservapedia

[quote=88Mariner;465283]now if only we could get an Islamepedia to laugh at how ridiculous thier interpretations are..... no more boring evenings![/quote] i can't believe that you actually have a point there.

#879383Post 28 of 33

Re: Conservapedia

bump!!! :bump

This site was featured in the LA times today:

[url]http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-schlafly19jun19,0,1038574.story?page=1&coll=la-home-nation[/url]

The article itself is an interesting read, but what makes it really entertaining is that the folks at Conservapedia evidently view it as validation of the fine work they are doing, noting on their front page:

[QUOTE]The LA Times praised our entries on the tuba, Claude Monet, the nation of Latvia, Robin Hood, polygons, and The Renaissance.[/QUOTE]

:roflmao:

#879395Post 29 of 33

Re: Conservapedia

^ tuba and the nation of Latvia! wow

#879407Post 30 of 33

Re: Conservapedia

What the hell were the LA Times searching for? They focus on polygons & Tubas? WTF?

#879411Post 31 of 33

Re: Conservapedia

[quote=superdave;458697]Finally a good source of information along with Fox News.[/quote]

damn it, now i need to go clean Dew off my damn monitor... that hurt! i need a warning next time!

-kk

#879412Post 32 of 33

Re: Conservapedia

[quote=toasty;500574]The article itself is an interesting read, but what makes it really entertaining is that the folks at Conservapedia evidently view it as validation of the fine work they are doing...[/quote]

Can anyone help me figure out in what context "brisk and straightforward" ammount to praise? "free of ideology" doesn't seem to cut it either, unless they're being praised for the brand of neutrality showcased in this lil gem:

[quote]But consider the entry on Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton (b. 1947). She "may suffer from a psychological condition that would raise questions about her fitness for office" — namely, "clinical narcissism," Conservapedia asserts. Evidence of her instability includes her "ever-changing opinion of the Iraq war." Though Schlafly demands that entries be rigorously footnoted, these sentences are not.

Schlafly calls the armchair psychology "borderline in acceptability" for his site, but he defends the Clinton article on balance as "an objective, bias-free piece from a conservative perspective."[/quote]

So, it's now possible to be bias-free from a partisan perspective? Boy the world is changing fast. I gather from the article that borderline now means "oh my God that's over the edge" Be sure to keep up with this rapidly changing terminology people, lest you find yourselves branded as "borderline terrorists" for remaining "neutral."

#879418Post 33 of 33

Re: Conservapedia

I get that the church is also the "right-hand" of god, but why are lefties devil-spawn?

Where in the bible does it say that you are allowed to beat the hell out of someone and tie their arm to a desk to reverse this "damage"? Maybe i skipped CCD the day they went over that chapter/concept...

Thank god, i didn't grow up in my Grandmother's time.
(she still writes with her left hand thank you very much)

...and yes, I've read about the superstition related to handedness, i was hoping someone could explain it.

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