i hope this won't be a repeat of 2000....

(edit: i.e. a drastically more conservative candidate, which was then GWB)

Re: McCain is in!

I love america.

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doa imo

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Yes and Dick Cheney will win. Actually, it looks like Giuliani which somewhat surprises me with his marriages and affairs. Personally, I don't care as long as that stuff is behind him and he does a good job managing the country.

I think people appreciate Giuliani after 9/11 and the way he handled things in an emergency situation in NYC. People including me trust him to get us through a similar crisis more than Hillary or Obama. People will ultimately vote who they like and have the most confidence in to lead them. They want to feel safe. Let's be honest, Hillary is a name vote and Obama is like a love crush in the Democratic party that could fade. To be fair, I am curious to hear more from Obama. Even if he doesn't win now, he appears to be someone at the forefront of politics for years to come.

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[quote=toasty;452677]doa imo[/quote]

Yep. Amazing what a few months will do innit? 6 mos ago i figured him a near lock for the Rep. nom.

Re: McCain is in!

This election is going to be ugly.

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[quote=asdf_admin;458113]This election is going to be ugly.[/quote]

lemee restate that.

This election is going to be fucking retarded and a complete waste of time as we will be voting for a trained ape, a dried up vagina, or a hemoroidal colon

Re: McCain is in!

Nail. Coffin.

[URL]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070710/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_campaign[/URL]

:suicide:

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That's what he gets when he continues to support Bush on the war...maybe if he had at least differentiated himself from Bush's war policy in some respects he'd have a chance...

my how far has McCain fallen from the respectful politician he was back in 2000...sad, I actually had respect for him and his ability to speak his mind...and then he let em cut his balls off to fall to the sad bottom that he's now reached. I hope he's proud of himself. :roll:

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mccain is done for, dude is mad old and maddd wack, with people like my man obama raising 33.5 million in one month, mccain just dosn't stand a chance.

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hey, do something intelligent for the planet vote for Obama.

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The hits keep on coming:

[url]http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_politics/2007/07/bob-allen-arres.html[/url]

[QUOTE][B]Republican Rep. Bob Allen of Merritt Island, whose district includes a large swath of east Orange County, was arrested for soliciting a male undercover police officer for sex in a Titusville park restroom.[/B]

Allen was considered to be acting suspicious by police as he entered and exited the men's room three times, according to a Titusville Police report. Moments later, he approached the plainclothes officer and offered to perform oral sex for $20, police said.

Allen faces second degree misdemeanor charges. A seven-year House veteran, the term-limited Allen had been considered a likely Senate candidate next year. [B]He also had been named a co-chairman last spring of Arizona Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign team in Florida.[/B]

Police said they realized Allen was a public figure after the arrest.[/QUOTE]

This actually bums me out. I don't agree with John McCain on everything, but I do respect the guy, and he deserves better than to go down in such a utterly pathetic way.

The only good news for his campaign right now is that things are going so badly, it's still newsworthy. As long as he stays on the news, he has a chance to rebuild his campaign. The moment the media stops giving a rip, he's toast. Any press is good press, right? Hard to imagine he's feeling that right now, but Kerry was in a similar (although perhaps not this bad) spot this time in 2003 and ultimately drug his campaign back to a point where he, regrettably, won the nomination.

How do you go from heir-apparent to the GOP nod to this? His campaign team ought to be ashamed of themselves.

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wow...there's certain periods when you DON'T go round the streets hunting for paid pussy...campaign time is definitely one of those periods :D

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[QUOTE=toasty;508054]I don't agree with John McCain on everything, but I do respect the guy, and he deserves better than to go down in such a utterly pathetic way.[/QUOTE] Really, you still respect McCain even after he's gone back on so many of the honest things he'd said in his earlier runs for prez? Kissed Falwell's ass and all and you still have respect for him? In my opinion he's become a complete hypocrite...I'm not even sure what HE actually stands for anymore, but I could tell you through him what the Republican party does.

I used to respect him up until he decided after losing the 2000 nomination to Bush that he was going to become a party player and stopped being the "straight talker" that I respected him for. :roll:

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[QUOTE=rubyraks;508081]Really, you still respect McCain even after he's gone back on so many of the honest things he'd said in his earlier runs for prez? [/QUOTE]

I do, but primarily because I'm not prepared to wipe away decades of service to the country because he is in election mode and doing the things that politicians think they have to do when they are trying to get elected. It's disappointing, but it's also reality. To be clear:

• I find his cozying up to Falwell et al deeply troubling
• I'm disappointed that he has let his principles slide so much in the name of being elected
• His position on Iraq is puzzling
• I can't see myself voting for the guy now, even if he were able to rekindle his campaign

But...

If I were to meet him in person, I'd still firmly shake his hand and thank him for his service to the country, and I'd mean it.

I'm a bit curious what would have happened to McCain's campaign had he stuck to his guns and run the way he got to be so well-liked in the first place. Instead, he followed the George W. Bush strategy of running right to fire up the conservative base, but there are too many people that are tired of that whole dog and pony show after the last 6 and a half years. I'm not going to bury a good guy for making some horrible political calculations, though.

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fair enough...I guess I should have stressed I meant respect for him as a politician, cause as a soldier you could never take that away from him.

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looks like he is almost out of money: [url]http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/[/url]

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[quote=shosh;508205]looks like he is almost out of money: [URL]http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/[/URL][/quote]

hahahahhahaha, he is soooo fucked! :lol::lol::lol:

mccain/bloomberg 08' ???? hahhaha

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[QUOTE=toasty;452677]doa imo[/QUOTE]

bump.

Amazing what can happen over the course of a presidential campaign, eh? There was a point when McCain was running on fumes and taking commercial flights from place to place with a skeleton crew. Now, it looks like he'll end up being the nominee after all. Dude has come full-circle. Pretty crazy.