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while i have bent back and forth, liking and disliking some of his policy, he is a asshole on par with the worst. but now. here we go. another dictator is born.
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rule by decree. another dictator is born.
41 durable postsStarted 2007-01-19Latest 2007-01-26
Re: rule by decree. another dictator is born.
he started with good ideas and great personality now he is just a douchebag.
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Its the way the world is going. Dictators all around.
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think what he has done within the last year.
nationalized foreign businesses without repayment. shut down all opposition media outlets. revoked voting rights for members of the opposition rule by decree befriends iran
nothing here is done for long term stability, peace, and developement. all of it is a power grab.
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Power grab indeed. Reason is he knows the price of oil is his only real power right now. So hence the hurry up.
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It's always amazing how betterment for the people involves so many aspects of fascism Repealing of rights, freedoms, and economic opportunities He wants to be Fidel Castro so badly Once the oil runs out, so will the leverage Is the domino effect back on the rise? Send in the CIA back militias immediately ;)
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[quote=AntonyM;437387] Send in the CIA back militias immediately ;)[/quote]
fuck no. please. we are already busy enough with the toilet bowl known as the people of the middle east.
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Not backing his ruling by decree, but when it comes to development he's doing a lot of things that I myself have for a while seen as necessary for a developing economy...this frightens me though. Strong leadership: yes, uncontrolled power: no.
Nationalization and trade barriers are vital to give domestic industries a chance, as well as legislation benefiting those that wish to start their own venture. Max.15-20 years, and then it would be time to slowly expose the domestic market to the global one, I'd think about 5-10 years should be enough for that phase untill full opening of the borders again.
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Interesting way to put it.
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Just a thought...seen too many cases of stronger economies acting like a predator on the weaker ones. You can't let a kid out on the streets without giving it the knowledge and tools to survive, the same goes for economies IMO.
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True enough. I certainly won't give any dictator the credit of understanding that though.
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one thing is to be a great nationalist, and another is to be a fucking communist he totally lost it.
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haha...
[EVIL]fucking communist[/EVIL]
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Russia is still technically somewhat communist. The biggest corporations are backed by the Kremlin, alleviated true free-market capitalism and monopolizing the economy. I think Chavez is learning a thing or 2 from Putin, which is more than we can say for our blundering retard of a preseidnt.
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Russia is now the land of the enterprising crook.
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but that isnt it, russia is somewhatcommie, so is china. but thier governments understand what it takes to keep epace and ensure prosperity. i.e. cooperation and respect to work together and in respect to each other. there isnt much of a virulent atmosphere in thier relations to anything outside of thier own immediaate problems with violent groups. (westen china fighters and the shit russia deals with on the southern border) but they handle those situations with a common understanding of how and why in the world stage
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[quote=thesightless;437391]fuck no. please. we are already busy enough with the toilet bowl known as the people of the middle east.[/quote]
Fuck you to Sean :lol: :lol: :lol:
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ahahahha.. Sean and Lorn, you guys do have a point in opposing the way Chavez is running things right now - protectionism is one thing, but dictatorship is way over the line. Chavez's last move makes me fear for the worst in Venezuela, since I've not yet seen the man that can handle absolute power without getting corrupted by it. What do you think the ring in [I]Lord of the Rings[/I] stands for eh? ;)
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its funny because you guys and me included see it as a disguised disdictatorship but people in venezuela see it as the best thing has ever happened to them.
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[quote=apollo_1444;438133]its funny because you guys and me included see it as a disguised disdictatorship but people in venezuela see it as the best thing has ever happened to them.[/quote]
certainly not the hundreds of thousands who were protesting chavez at the opposition rally....
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[quote=88Mariner;438180]certainly not the hundreds of thousands who were protesting chavez at the opposition rally....[/quote] sure but the majority is pro chavez.
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it's a split country.
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[quote=Yao;437860] What do you think the ring in [I]Lord of the Rings[/I] stands for eh? ;)[/quote]
Yup...not even the innocent little Hobbit could handle it in the end.
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[quote=88Mariner;438376]it's a split country.[/quote]
no it isn't a split country the majority supports him and he just got relected in fact... there were international observers that prooved it was a clean election.
so we are all happy they like their leader period.
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haha...[URL="http://http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/01/21/chavez.ap/index.html"]Go To Hell![/URL] :lol:
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then on behalf of this country,\
fuck off you commie spic. you arent helping. your assassination should be fun TV
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[quote=thesightless;438957]then on behalf of this country,\
fuck off you commie spic. you arent helping. your assassination should be fun TV[/quote]
on behalf of the world eat shit fucking jew...let the world exist how they want to period.
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im not jewish. but a few of our moderators are.
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[quote=thesightless;439000]im not jewish. but a few of our moderators are.[/quote] so is it bad to call a jew a jew? when or where...
you are like all those republicans we see on tv, I don't see your ass in iraq right now :lol: its funny cuz probably 50% of the troops are spics.
at least the world knows the "dems" go in fact to wars and they fight at wars.
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[quote=apollo_1444;438999]let the world exist how they want to period.[/quote]
right there is the flaw in your applied logic. instantly, by saying that, you revoke your right to have your opinion regarding our asinine government. let the US operate as it wants. if we cant have a negative opinion on someone like chavez, then no one should expect to have thier voices heard regarding the US's lackluster govt. i.e. if the US wants to live as a political and economic force, fighting for whaever the hell bush/clinton/whomever has in mind, then ppl should let us.
again, im not trying piss ya off, but round here, we based viewpoints on facts and reality, not opinions. its a healthy little politics forum we have here. civil, factual, and mostly realistic.
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[quote=thesightless;439091]right there is the flaw in your applied logic. instantly, by saying that, you revoke your right to have your opinion regarding our asinine government. let the US operate as it wants. if we cant have a negative opinion on someone like chavez, [/quote]
ok one thing is to have an opinion about Chavez and another is to have an interventionist attitude. and trying to persuade hate towards him in a forum.
he is a bastard I know that he is 100% anti-american and he hates us too. whatever but their people have the right to listen to him and to support him. he is their leader in Venezuela its their oil so pay for it that simple.
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[quote=apollo_1444;439251]ok one thing is to have an opinion about Chavez and another is to have an interventionist attitude. and trying to persuade hate towards him in a forum.
he is a bastard I know that he is 100% anti-american and he hates us too. whatever but their people have the right to listen to him and to support him. he is their leader in Venezuela its their oil so pay for it that simple.[/quote]
Amazing people can't figure it out though. Emotion is a powerful thing.
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chavez doesnt have an interventionist attitude????
- he comes here , to NY and trashes us. then walks around harlem trashing america.
- tries to send oil to undermine our gov't
- allies with the one guy who is enflaming the middle eastern situation with america.
again. incorporate everything.
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[quote=thesightless;439787]chavez doesnt have an interventionist attitude????
- he comes here , to NY and trashes us. then walks around harlem trashing america.
- tries to send oil to undermine our gov't
- allies with the one guy who is enflaming the middle eastern situation with america.
again. incorporate everything.[/quote]
thats pointless buddy... he can say whatever the fuck he wants if you don't like it then fine thats it ... not enough reason to kill chavez .. venezuelans have the leader they want period.
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[quote=apollo_1444;440033] venezuelans have the leader they want period.[/quote]
I sure hope so....
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OF COURSE they have the leader they wanted. I mean, look at all the millions of people who voted for him in the cleanest elections of south america. It must be incredibly tough to have a leader of a country loved by so many, but only a few really are trying to throw out of power. Who are those people to test his authority? The public corporations? Nope, they do not have any right to thier business. The neighboring nations? No, they are there only to impede on his ability to lead his people on principle and pride.
I just can't understand how a few completely incompetent and fully ignorant people would ever question Chavez as the legitimate leader of Venezuela.
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[quote=88Mariner;440050]
I just can't understand how a few completely incompetent and fully ignorant people would ever question Chavez as the legitimate leader of Venezuela.[/quote]
even the BBC certified that it was a clean election, he is high as hell in the polls, even the opposition recognizes it. it wasn't a fraud like the one the bbc certified in Florida :lol:
if you really want to stop illegal immigration in America then you need to let the venezuelans choose the leader they want.
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The BEEB? Omg, that just puts the nail in the coffin. Nobody questions the BEEB on their objectvitiy. Agreed, Chavez is the ruler of the great state nation of Venezuela. Long Live CHAVEZ! WOOO!!!!!111!1
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[quote=88Mariner;440325]The BEEB? Omg, that just puts the nail in the coffin. Nobody questions the BEEB on their objectvitiy. Agreed, Chavez is the ruler of the great state nation of Venezuela. Long Live CHAVEZ! WOOO!!!!!111!1[/quote]
AGREE!!1!1 OMG WTF LOL!!!11
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[quote=apollo_1444;440364]AGREE!!1!1 OMG WTF LOL!!!11[/quote]
lol, keep up the great work apollo. lol