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Iran provides hezbollah/south lebanon with unlimited budget for reconstruction...

43 durable postsStarted 2006-08-17Latest 2006-08-28
#31658Post 1 of 43

I dont have a link to the article, i read it in the new york times yesterday. Iran is strategic as fuck, hezbollah helping people in southern lebanon get back on their feet when no one else really is, this is establishing hezbollah in lebanon again, and even more so in southern lebanon (rebuilding underground tunnels anyone???), so basically i think iran ordered the kidnapping of those israeli soldiers, hooked hezbollah up with rockets throughout the war, knew it would come to a standstill, and hezbollah's stature has now risen 10 fold and will continue to do so as the rebuilding continues, especially since iran has promised "unlimited funds for reconstruction" which comes from oil.

discuss...

#691895Post 2 of 43

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I just watched the 60 minutes interview with the Prez of Iran. He's a twisted fucker, but very clever and knows exactly how manipulate. Mike Wallace was in way over his head.

#691900Post 3 of 43

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I thought Wallace did a fine job, and tried to keep the president of iran in line with questioning. The pres avoided a lot of questions, and Wallace stood firm in trying to get him to answer. How exactly was Wallace in over his head?

#691908Post 4 of 43

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I thought he was a little too verbose in repeating the questions the Prez was dodging, and seemed to get a little too flustered by the nonesense responses. Too many, "ZOMG, did you just say...?" restorts from Wallace too. Yes they were shocking responses but we have it on tape, let's get to new questions instead a making sure you heard right. I can't help but think a younger MW would have been sharper.

Nevertheless, it was a very revealing piece, that Iranian fucker is out of his mind, and either doesn't know it, or worse yet he knows exactly what he's doing.

#691940Post 5 of 43

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[quote=Kobe]

that Iranian fucker is out of his mind, and either doesn't know it, or worse yet he knows exactly what he's doing.[/quote]

both imo-

i don't think he knows he's out of his freaking mind, and i think he knows exactly what he's doing. dangerous combo.

#691958Post 6 of 43

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i have yet to see this much talked about interview, im gonna see if i can find it on youtube or a torrent...

#691959Post 7 of 43

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^please post a link if you find it.

#691961Post 8 of 43

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agreed,

that 52,000 suicide bomers factoid is :shock:

#691962Post 9 of 43

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[quote=threehills]^please post a link if you find it.[/quote] for sure, its totally removed from youtube, copyright violations bizz, still looking...

update: this interview in video or the transcript is absolutely nowhere to be found, wow, i need to find out if this re-airs or what

this is the closest thing i've found [URL="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/09/60minutes/main1879867.shtml"]http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/09/60minutes/main1879867.shtml[/URL]

lol, check out his blog [FONT=verdana][SIZE=2][COLOR=#ffffff][B][URL="http://www.ahmadinejad.ir/"]www.ahmadinejad.ir[/URL][/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

#691969Post 10 of 43

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guys, I will see if it is still on my Tivo, if so I can crank it out to a file and post it up, definitely worth seeing, appently he doesn't give many interviews and it is important to know your enemy.

#692052Post 11 of 43

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[quote=Kobe]it is important to know your enemy.[/quote]

:roll: I say Mooooo to you! Have you ever given a thought to the possibility that the 18 page letter he wrote to Bush was his sincere thoughts and that this man is truely a religious (although fundamentally) scholarly humanitarian? Are you basing your beliefs off of the media's reports, which are completely biased or have you done some solo research on the guy? I haven't seen the full interview, although I did see a clip of it off of cbs.com and Wallace's question regarding the 50,000 suicide bombers was utterly loaded, but the guy retorted with that it is a measure that would only be taken in self defense of his country if we were to attack them. Did any of you read what I had written about the unbiased documentary with footage taken from Iran? I didn't see the persecution, oppression, radicallism towards Americans or anything of the sort that the media has painted for all of us here in the states. I hope that the media isn't dooping all of America into blindly believeing that all of Iran is evil so that it will be easier to wage a war with them. I haven't seen anything to lead me to believe that their president is evil. Yes, they want Nuclear technology for a power source and if they want nuclear arms, well one of their adversaries (Israel) has them already, so here again self defense. Just because Iran is a 4 letter word and sounds similar to Iraq doesn't mean that they have the same type of leaders. This guy may or may not be like Husain, I haven't fully decided. All I'm saying is that I haven't seen anything to lead me to believe that he is like Suhain was. It just seems like the media is brainwashing everyone into believing that he and everyone else in his country is evil. It would be easier to wage a war with them if everyone already hates all of Iran. What if we do go to war with them over pretenses of WMDs as we did with Iraq and then the same thing happen in the end. You know how everyone who supported it in the beginning has changed their minds after the damage is done. :|

#692068Post 12 of 43

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[QUOTE=anonin]so basically i think[/QUOTE]

stop right there!

#692069Post 13 of 43

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[quote=CHiEF_N]:roll: I say Mooooo to you! Have you ever given a thought to the possibility that the 18 page letter he wrote to Bush was his sincere thoughts and that this man is truely a religious (although fundamentally) scholarly humanitarian? Are you basing your beliefs off of the media's reports, which are completely biased or have you done some solo research on the guy? I haven't seen the full interview, although I did see a clip of it off of cbs.com and Wallace's question regarding the 50,000 suicide bombers was utterly loaded, but the guy retorted with that it is a measure that would only be taken in self defense of his country if we were to attack them. Did any of you read what I had written about the unbiased documentary with footage taken from Iran? I didn't see the persecution, oppression, radicallism towards Americans or anything of the sort that the media has painted for all of us here in the states. I hope that the media isn't dooping all of America into blindly believeing that all of Iran is evil so that it will be easier to wage a war with them. I haven't seen anything to lead me to believe that their president is evil. Yes, they want Nuclear technology for a power source and if they want nuclear arms, well one of their adversaries (Israel) has them already, so here again self defense. Just because Iran is a 4 letter word and sounds similar to Iraq doesn't mean that they have the same type of leaders. This guy may or may not be like Husain, I haven't fully decided. All I'm saying is that I haven't seen anything to lead me to believe that he is like Suhain was. It just seems like the media is brainwashing everyone into believing that he and everyone else in his country is evil. It would be easier to wage a war with them if everyone already hates all of Iran. What if we do go to war with them over pretenses of WMDs as we did with Iraq and then the same thing happen in the end. You know how everyone who supported it in the beginning has changed their minds after the damage is done. :|[/quote]

I'm not opposed to iran obtaining nuclear weapons, i beleive if your country develops to that level scientifically then go for it (shocker!!!111). However, i've been saying for years iran will develop nuclear arms, america isnt going to do anything about it, it cant afford to. Bush saying he wont let iran develop nuclear arms, is like iran saying he want israel to move locations. The american news media loves playing with the notion that we will one day strike iran, but thats just what it is, playing with the notion. no one is attacking iran and no one will attack iran. end of.

#692070Post 14 of 43

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what's the difference between Iran funding Hezbollah and the US funding the IDF?

the people in southern Lebanon support Hezbollah. Hezbollah don't just defend them they also provide healthcare and necessary infrastructure.

very stupid kidnapping Israeli soldiers though. but heck no one every caused a rumpus with all the Lebanese that have been taken over the years.

#692071Post 15 of 43

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Look guys, I'm just trying to be open minded, but not so much that my brain falls out, and remain unbiased despite the media coverage. I want to be able to form my own opinion on the situation and I don't want us to wage a war with yet another country. Especially one that could very well lead into another world war. I can't get the civilians that I saw in that film out of my head and how happy they seemed to be. They seemed like humans just like the rest of us that want to live a peaceful and joyful life without hurting anyone in the process. I know without a doubt that Iranians just like the ones I saw in that film will parish if we were to go to war with them and it's a horrible thought.

#692072Post 16 of 43

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[quote=Hos]what's the difference between Iran funding Hezbollah and the US funding the IDF?

the people in southern Lebanon support Hezbollah. Hezbollah don't just defend them they also provide healthcare and necessary infrastructure.

very stupid kidnapping Israeli soldiers though. but heck no one every caused a rumpus with all the Lebanese that have been taken over the years.[/quote]

its israel, go figure :roll: I basically saw their reaction as "how dare you kidnap 2 of our soldiers!!" like their soldiers are on this pedastool, overreaction city and it was only 2 soldiers, not like 500 or something. Situation could have been handled wayyyyy differently. But israel had to try and prove a point, Now look at things.

#692073Post 17 of 43

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[quote=CHiEF_N]Look guys, I'm just trying to be open minded, but no so much that my brain falls out, and remain unbiased despite the media coverage. I want to be able to form my own opinion on the situation and I don't want us to wage a war with yet another country. Especially one that could very well lead into another world war. I can't get the civilians that I saw in that film out of my head and how happy they seemed to be. They seemed like humans just like the rest of us that want to live a peaceful and joyful life without hurting anyone in the process. I know without a doubt that Iranians just like the ones I saw in that film will parish if we were to go to war with them and it's a horrible thought.[/quote]

bruv, who has the money to go to war with iran? The u.s. is rich but not THAT rich. The funds simply arnt there, the political landscape here in the states are changing (democrats about to get some control in washington). For those 2 reasons its not happening, some conservatives argue that bush might try to bomb their enrichment facilities before he hops out of office, but to that i say thats an act of war and he dosnt have the authority to do that, he needs to get that shit approved by congress and well, wait till this november , congress wont be so republican anymore. :D

#692076Post 18 of 43

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[QUOTE=CHiEF_N]Look guys, I'm just trying to be open minded, but not so much that my brain falls out, and remain unbiased despite the media coverage. I want to be able to form my own opinion on the situation and I don't want us to wage a war with yet another country. Especially one that could very well lead into another world war. I can't get the civilians that I saw in that film out of my head and how happy they seemed to be. They seemed like humans just like the rest of us that want to live a peaceful and joyful life without hurting anyone in the process. I know without a doubt that Iranians just like the ones I saw in that film will parish if we were to go to war with them and it's a horrible thought.[/QUOTE]

what film was this?

#692085Post 19 of 43

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[quote=CHiEF_N]:roll: I say Mooooo to you! Have you ever given a thought to the possibility that the 18 page letter he wrote to Bush was his sincere thoughts and that this man is truely a religious (although fundamentally) scholarly humanitarian? Are you basing your beliefs off of the media's reports, which are completely biased or have you done some solo research on the guy? I haven't seen the full interview, although I did see a clip of it off of cbs.com and Wallace's question regarding the 50,000 suicide bombers was utterly loaded, but the guy retorted with that it is a measure that would only be taken in self defense of his country if we were to attack them. Did any of you read what I had written about the unbiased documentary with footage taken from Iran? I didn't see the persecution, oppression, radicallism towards Americans or anything of the sort that the media has painted for all of us here in the states. I hope that the media isn't dooping all of America into blindly believeing that all of Iran is evil so that it will be easier to wage a war with them. I haven't seen anything to lead me to believe that their president is evil. Yes, they want Nuclear technology for a power source and if they want nuclear arms, well one of their adversaries (Israel) has them already, so here again self defense. Just because Iran is a 4 letter word and sounds similar to Iraq doesn't mean that they have the same type of leaders. This guy may or may not be like Husain, I haven't fully decided. All I'm saying is that I haven't seen anything to lead me to believe that he is like Suhain was. It just seems like the media is brainwashing everyone into believing that he and everyone else in his country is evil. It would be easier to wage a war with them if everyone already hates all of Iran. What if we do go to war with them over pretenses of WMDs as we did with Iraq and then the same thing happen in the end. You know how everyone who supported it in the beginning has changed their minds after the damage is done. :|[/quote] Before I start off: yes I've done my homework on Ahmadinejad when word got out about the Iranian nuclear program and no, I don't swallow everything mass media try to shove down my throat.

You ask if he's like Saddam or not. I don't think that's a relevant question actually. It's not because Saddam unlike Ahmadinejad used chemical weapons against his own people that Ahmadinejad is a "decent guy." On the international level, I think he's even worse.

First of all Ahmadinejad calls for the destruction of Israel. I don't really see that as an act of self defense nor motivated by it.

Secondly he denies the Holocaust. I don't know how that is taken in your part of the world, but here in Belgium he'd wake up in a prison cell for that.

Thirdly if he intends to use nuclear technology only for civil purposes, why did he go on with the research program behind the back of the IAEA and against the will of the UN security counsil? Just to gain political weight? Yeah right, they already have a big ass political gun in their hands: oil.

Ok, let's just assume that he does want a nuclear arsenal. Self defense you say? Weird, I never heard Israel calling for the destruction of Iran. Where's the self defense then? What does he need nukes for? Just to be on the same level with a country which has them because it's surrounded by hostile forces? Uhum, makes no sense at all to me...

Reason 4: he openly supports Hezbollah, arms them and finances them. Refresh my mind: when did supporting a terrorist organisation become acceptable? Just imagine the scale of the Lebanon conflict if Iran would've had nukes today. I guess you're intelligent enough to estimate that yourself without me elaborating further.

Ok, so much for the politics, let's talk morals now.

You suggest the possibility "that this man is truely a religious (although fundamentally) scholarly humanitarian." He might be a civil engineer with a PhD and even a professor at the civil engineering faculty of the IUST university in Teheran, but the only thing that proves is that he's intelligent.

As for religious... Well my friend, let me teach you something about the islam then: the Qu'oran clearly states that suicide is a mortal sin. Don't you find it strange then that he talks about an army of suicide bombers? He's willing to create 50.000 muslim sinners and call them martyrs... Sounds very religious to me.

That's not all. Let's translate the word "Hezbollah" into English: Party of God. Riiiiiiiiight, his terrorist buddies call themselves a party. If he were a pius muslim, he would have known that the islam forbids this because it creates division amongst muslims. Ow yeah, the islam forbids killing other muslims as well. Strike two for Hezbollah. Still he keeps supporting sinners...

Bottom line: Mooooo tooooo youuuuuu toooooooooo :roll:

#692088Post 20 of 43

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[quote=KinKyJ]Before I start off: yes I've done my homework on Ahmadinejad when word got out about the Iranian nuclear program and no, I don't swallow everything mass media try to shove down my throat.

You ask if he's like Saddam or not. I don't think that's a relevant question actually. It's not because Saddam unlike Ahmadinejad used chemical weapons against his own people that Ahmadinejad is a "decent guy." On the international level, I think he's even worse.

First of all Ahmadinejad calls for the destruction of Israel. I don't really see that as an act of self defense nor motivated by it.

Secondly he denies the Holocaust. I don't know how that is taken in your part of the world, but here in Belgium he'd wake up in a prison cell for that.

Thirdly if he intends to use nuclear technology only for civil purposes, why did he go on with the research program behind the back of the IAEA and against the will of the UN security counsil? Just to gain political weight? Yeah right, they already have a big ass political gun in their hands: oil.

Ok, let's just assume that he does want a nuclear arsenal. Self defense you say? Weird, I never heard Israel calling for the destruction of Iran. Where's the self defense then? What does he need nukes for? Just to be on the same level with a country which has them because it's surrounded by hostile forces? Uhum, makes no sense at all to me...

Reason 4: he openly supports Hezbollah, arms them and finances them. Refresh my mind: when did supporting a terrorist organisation become acceptable? Just imagine the scale of the Lebanon conflict if Iran would've had nukes today. I guess you're intelligent enough to estimate that yourself without me elaborating further.

Ok, so much for the politics, let's talk morals now.

You suggest the possibility "that this man is truely a religious (although fundamentally) scholarly humanitarian." He might be a civil engineer with a PhD and even a professor at the civil engineering faculty of the IUST university in Teheran, but the only thing that proves is that he's intelligent.

As for religious... Well my friend, let me teach you something about the islam then: the Qu'oran clearly states that suicide is a mortal sin. Don't you find it strange then that he talks about an army of suicide bombers? He's willing to create 50.000 muslim sinners and call them martyrs... Sounds very religious to me.

That's not all. Let's translate the word "Hezbollah" into English: Party of God. Riiiiiiiiight, his terrorist buddies call themselves a party. If he were a pius muslim, he would have known that the islam forbids this because it creates division amongst muslims. Ow yeah, the islam forbids killing other muslims as well. Strike two for Hezbollah. Still he keeps supporting sinners...

Bottom line: Mooooo tooooo youuuuuu toooooooooo :roll:[/quote]

whoa, how long did it take you to type all that? :p

two points i wanted to address in your post...

  1. irans president wants nukes because he feels that its his countrys scientific right and he dosnt want (in his mind) the u.s. to be able to enslave his country.

  2. even if iran had nukes how would that affect the lebanon conflict??? iran has all sorts of shit but you didnt see hezbollah using it in the conflict did you? are you actually implying that iran would have just hooked hezbollah up with a nuke to launch at israel? i certainly hope not

as for the guy personally, comments he made, groups he supports, im in agreement with you.

#692122Post 21 of 43

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[quote=KinKyJ]Before I start off: yes I've done my homework on Ahmadinejad when word got out about the Iranian nuclear program and no, I don't swallow everything mass media try to shove down my throat.

You ask if he's like Saddam or not. I don't think that's a relevant question actually. It's not because Saddam unlike Ahmadinejad used chemical weapons against his own people that Ahmadinejad is a "decent guy." On the international level, I think he's even worse.

First of all Ahmadinejad calls for the destruction of Israel. I don't really see that as an act of self defense nor motivated by it.

Secondly he denies the Holocaust. I don't know how that is taken in your part of the world, but here in Belgium he'd wake up in a prison cell for that.

Thirdly if he intends to use nuclear technology only for civil purposes, why did he go on with the research program behind the back of the IAEA and against the will of the UN security counsil? Just to gain political weight? Yeah right, they already have a big ass political gun in their hands: oil.

Ok, let's just assume that he does want a nuclear arsenal. Self defense you say? Weird, I never heard Israel calling for the destruction of Iran. Where's the self defense then? What does he need nukes for? Just to be on the same level with a country which has them because it's surrounded by hostile forces? Uhum, makes no sense at all to me...

Reason 4: he openly supports Hezbollah, arms them and finances them. Refresh my mind: when did supporting a terrorist organisation become acceptable? Just imagine the scale of the Lebanon conflict if Iran would've had nukes today. I guess you're intelligent enough to estimate that yourself without me elaborating further.

Ok, so much for the politics, let's talk morals now.

You suggest the possibility "that this man is truely a religious (although fundamentally) scholarly humanitarian." He might be a civil engineer with a PhD and even a professor at the civil engineering faculty of the IUST university in Teheran, but the only thing that proves is that he's intelligent.

As for religious... Well my friend, let me teach you something about the islam then: the Qu'oran clearly states that suicide is a mortal sin. Don't you find it strange then that he talks about an army of suicide bombers? He's willing to create 50.000 muslim sinners and call them martyrs... Sounds very religious to me.

That's not all. Let's translate the word "Hezbollah" into English: Party of God. Riiiiiiiiight, his terrorist buddies call themselves a party. If he were a pius muslim, he would have known that the islam forbids this because it creates division amongst muslims. Ow yeah, the islam forbids killing other muslims as well. Strike two for Hezbollah. Still he keeps supporting sinners...

Bottom line: Mooooo tooooo youuuuuu toooooooooo :roll:[/quote]

I've read some of your other posts and you appear to be extremely well read in the realm of politics. You're not only very educated on this topic, but you also have a hell of a lot of logic in your thought patterns, which my troubled mind truly appreciates when navigating through these types of issues. You've informed me of quite a few things about Ahmadinejad that I didn't know of beforehand. I see now that there's a very high probability that he is actually a threat to humanity. Thank you KinKyJ for your time and information. Much respect!!! :Respect:

#692123Post 22 of 43

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[quote=Hos]what film was this?[/quote]

Warren Miller's "Cold Fusion" -- The Iranian piece is toward the end and not extremely lengthy, but again, it gives a view into the country through an unbiased lense. It doesn't go into politics, but they did mention how some of the old oppressive traditions were being progressively lifted. It shows women without the veils over there faces and wearing make-up, smiling and wearing ski suits. It just wasn't the Iran that I had pictured.

#692179Post 23 of 43

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[quote=CHiEF_N]I've read some of your other posts and you appear to be extremely well read in the realm of politics. You're not only very educated on this topic, but you also have a hell of a lot of logic in your thought patterns, which my troubled mind truly appreciates when navigating through these types of issues. You've informed me of quite a few things about Ahmadinejad that I didn't know of beforehand. I see now that there's a very high probability that he is actually a threat to humanity. Thank you KinKyJ for your time and information. Much respect!!! :Respect:[/quote] Yeah well, after a while you get fed up with masturbation and you replace porn with politics :lol:

You're welcome btw ;)

#692905Post 24 of 43

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[QUOTE=CHiEF_N]Warren Miller's "Cold Fusion" -- The Iranian piece is toward the end and not extremely lengthy, but again, it gives a view into the country through an unbiased lense. It doesn't go into politics, but they did mention how some of the old oppressive traditions were being progressively lifted. It shows women without the veils over there faces and wearing make-up, smiling and wearing ski suits. It just wasn't the Iran that I had pictured.[/QUOTE]

women in Iran have never been made to cover their faces - only their hair.

sadly any progression has now been stifled since Ahmadinejad replaced Khatebi.

#692908Post 25 of 43

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[QUOTE=KinKyJ]

Reason 4: he openly supports Hezbollah, arms them and finances them. Refresh my mind: when did supporting a terrorist organisation become acceptable? Just imagine the scale of the Lebanon conflict if Iran would've had nukes today. I guess you're intelligent enough to estimate that yourself without me elaborating further. [/QUOTE]

and the US openly support Israel, arms them and finances them.

#692926Post 26 of 43

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[quote=Hos]and the US openly support Israel, arms them and finances them.[/quote]

Hos are you likening a democratic state with a para-military terror orgainisation?

#693059Post 27 of 43

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democratic state - Israel are so much more than that

para-military terror organisation - Hezbollah are so much more than that

#693074Post 28 of 43

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^^^ still doesn't justify providing them with arms. I wouldn't even care if they had their own theme park.

#693105Post 29 of 43

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in an attempt to use a cold heart and analyze facts, i have come up with this feeling regarding all of this shit. especially after todays events in saudi arabia

no group can act independent of a government, especially targeting civilians, and expect not to deal with the responsibility and consequences of your actions. hezzbollah does this. while they have a false face within the government, they act without restraint, and on behalf of people who prefer the chaos. they acted on thier own, kidnapped soldiers of a foreign country, and launched [I][U]iranian[/U][/I] weapons from a region of lebanon where they have support. so in the end, i look at it, and with the fresh thoughts of their false media campaign that has been ripped apart and scorned, and come to the conclusion that , you know what, they got off lucky. isreal had every right to do what they did. and lebanese government earned tons of kudos for allowing isreal to do what they could not. its a monster mistake implementing the ceasefire. they should have allowed the IDF to stamp out and get rid of people who illegally buy weapons, then target innoncent people, and kill them whenever possible.

#693217Post 30 of 43

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what about all the Lebanese civillians the Israeli military have kidnapped?

#693335Post 31 of 43

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regarding them. they are probably a lot better off then the kidnapped soldiers whose abduction lead to this. and if they are simpathetic to hezzbollah, then it is probably better that they dont spread a violent message. so. again. it sucks, but they should have finished the job.

#693363Post 32 of 43

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[quote=Kobe]I just watched the 60 minutes interview with the Prez of Iran. He's a twisted fucker, but very clever and knows exactly how manipulate. Mike Wallace was in way over his head.[/quote]

Clueless

[quote=Jenks]I thought Wallace did a fine job, and tried to keep the president of iran in line with questioning. The pres avoided a lot of questions, and Wallace stood firm in trying to get him to answer. How exactly was Wallace in over his head?[/quote]

Even more clueless, but it's quite funny reading mercuryserver members' comments.

Actually I kind of feel sorry for you. You really don't have a clue whats going on in the middle east. :lol:

The media in the US are really demonising Ahmadinejad. I guess it's a sense of frustration that a little guy is standing up to them and telling them to p*ss off.

The US will try to impose sanctions at the end of the month, most likely they will succeed. One thing they forget is that Iran have been under US sanctions for 27 years maybe more and it hasn't made a difference. The iranians produce most things themselves.

So what then, bomb them? Israel has flattened lebanon, killed more than a thousand people and yet the israeli army came out humiliated, more missiles than over were launched on the last day before the ceasefire and the israeli government don't have a clue how to deal with hizbollah.

Now if Israel who has the strongest army pound for pound was humiliated by hizbollah, how on earth are the americans gonna deal with iran when it is them who trained hizbollah. :lol:

Iran has a number of playing cards to retaliate with should the americans bomb it.

  1. Arm the Shias in Iraq to the teeth to attack the americans.

  2. Attack the military bases in Afganistan

  3. Launch attacks against Israel.

  4. Deploy the revolutionary guard, Hamas, Hizbollah and Syrian troops to attack Israeli and American targets.

If the americans decide to invade Iran, then Bush is sending his troops on a suicide mission. Good Luck.

#693888Post 33 of 43

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[quote=sono] Actually I kind of feel sorry for you. [/quote]

I feel sorry for your mother.

#693895Post 34 of 43

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^^^ Nr 4 prostitute in Kazachstan imo :mrgreen:

#693907Post 35 of 43

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[quote=Jenks]I feel sorry for your mother.[/quote]

Don't worry, she's very proud. :p

#693908Post 36 of 43

Re: Iran provides hezbollah/south lebanon with unlimited budget for reconstruction...

[quote=KinKyJ]^^^ Nr 4 prostitute in Kazachstan imo :mrgreen:[/quote]

and your mon is Nr 1? :lol:

#693918Post 37 of 43

Re: Iran provides hezbollah/south lebanon with unlimited budget for reconstruction...

sono. are you nuts? the military cant handle militias? we can, we dont carpet bomb towns for reasons in the international spotlight. but if we wanted to... thats a different story. think mainland europe in the 40's.

#693928Post 38 of 43

Re: Iran provides hezbollah/south lebanon with unlimited budget for reconstruction...

[quote=sono]and your mon is Nr 1? :lol:[/quote]Hey, if your mom had change for $5 you'd be calling me dad :D

#693943Post 39 of 43

Re: Iran provides hezbollah/south lebanon with unlimited budget for reconstruction...

this is officially the single dumbest thread i have ever read. essentially its coming down to sono's opinion of ''its OK for us to kill innocents, but wait, not you, even when the guys you are killing arent innocent.'' versus the common thoughts of ''people shouldnt be doing this shit''

god, where the fuck Yao.

#693961Post 40 of 43

Re: Iran provides hezbollah/south lebanon with unlimited budget for reconstruction...

^^^ banging hairy women in the jungle

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