[url]http://www.aish.com/jewishissues/mediaobjectivity/Photo_Fraud_in_Lebanon.asp[/url] :shock:

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i thought that the editing in that photo was so obvious that it had to be a joke. if anybody took any more than a passing glance at that photo and didn't think it was edited, they need their eyes checked. like, they guy just used the spot healing tool or the clone stamp.

and, as if there needed to be any more smoke inserted into the picture...

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We are definately entering a new era of potential misinformation. How the hell is one supposed to verify what they are seeing is real......

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what can you do :not me:

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Little Green Footballs, Michelle Malkin and the EU referendum blogs, to name just a few, have been exposing for weeks the way the media has either been manipulated or complicite in the manipulation of images coming out of the Lebanon.

Read [URL="http://www.eureferendum.blogspot.com/"][B]EU Blog[/B][/URL] for the most concise collections of all these manipulations anywhere in the web.

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wow, I really think theres very little to say and that's just when you thnik you're starting to understand what's going on, this comes to you and slaps you in the face, what a shame, that the media has become another actor in this terrible scenario......

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Customer - 31 07 2006 07:07 PM Dear sir/madam

This morning, I saw the pictures taken by your photographers in Qana, Lebanon.

Somewhat later, I come across this website: [URL="http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2006/07/milking-it.html"][COLOR=#0000cc]http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2006/07/milking-it.html[/COLOR][/URL]

Being a former journalist myself, I find this quite disturbing. Not in the least because I've always considered Reuters as a landmark in journalism.

I wonder how this can be explained. This clearly is a problem of reality versus perception and I would like to know the position of Reuters.

Thank you in advance for your swift reply.

Kind regards

Jan Vangeel Belgium

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[---001:002747:03834---][/quote]Lame...

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you know, and this disgusts me, its a fucking shame this hasnt been covered like the bombings. public sentiment has been so altered by this, yet no one wants to contradiict popular opinion, even though it is fact.

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Seriously though, wtf can we do about it? Who or what can we trust to know whats going on? (other than Sean that is).

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dont trust me, i just read alot, so i can converse at a basic level with dave. he is there, you have a question , ask him.

again, on the answer of what can we do... well, we could take this info to everyone that had thier opinions altered by a liar, making isreal look like monsters. no one is covering the refugees who left southern lebanon and openly came out with the info that hezzbollah actually walks into homes, essentially holds the people hostage while they stage attacks from people's rooftops.... or why they gather children of sympathetic families to them when they stage ground attacks... or why the same guy has been seen dead in about a dozen photos. (that last one was on BBC about 2-3 evenings ago here in NYC, they exposed photos released by hezzbollah and syrian outlets where the same guy was in over 20 photos, in different areas, sometimes dead, sometimes crying over the dead bodies, sometimes acting the militant.)

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^^^ versatile little gits, those hezzies

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It's handy they have all the bodies and bombed buildings to work with.[Says she wandering off to find a sarcasm emoticon]!!

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^^^ :sarcasm:

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Nothing but today's Ministry of Truth Total Propaganda Stalin and Hearst would be proud

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Kinky:

Lets hope the new generation of journalists such as me is gonna do a better job. With a lill luck within a year of four/five i'd be in such areas. And i'm much looking forward to it.

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[quote=Xessex]Kinky:

Lets hope the new generation of journalists such as me is gonna do a better job. With a lill luck within a year of four/five i'd be in such areas. And i'm much looking forward to it.[/quote]Let's hope so, but imo it will only get worse. Two reasons:

• the grip of corporations on the mass media is finding its way into the newsrooms. When viewer numbers are more important than fair journalistic practices, ye well...
• propaganda and using information as a weapon is on the rise (again).

As a former journalist, I don't look at my ex colleagues when I seek change. My idealistic bubble bursted after having spent too much time in newsrooms tbh. If there will be any change, it will come from civic journalism as far as the traditional mass media are concerned and civil journalism for the new media (internet).

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if you want fair reporting. find two respected people from the far left and far right who hav respect for opinions, and will work together, to act as editors. that way, shit like the plame case and the NYtimes wont happen.

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[quote=KinKyJ]Let's hope so, but imo it will only get worse. Two reasons:

• the grip of corporations on the mass media is finding its way into the newsrooms. When viewer numbers are more important than fair journalistic practices, ye well...
• propaganda and using information as a weapon is on the rise (again).

As a former journalist, I don't look at my ex colleagues when I seek change. My idealistic bubble bursted after having spent too much time in newsrooms tbh. If there will be any change, it will come from civic journalism as far as the traditional mass media are concerned and civil journalism for the new media (internet).[/quote]

I strongly want to avoid any newsrooms for my future job. I pretty much would get a heart attack if i see a desk from where i have to work. I want a job in the field. There's only option to achieve that and that is by becoming a freelancer. Hopefully im good enough to sell some of my shit...

Actually with almost 100% certainty i can tell within a few years i'll be somewhere in a conflict area or a development country. It only takes a strong will and money for a plain ticket to get there. To stay and survive there would be the hard thing...and hopefully that doesnt drive me back to a desk.

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try to survive mysteryland this weekend first, aight? ;)

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[quote=KinKyJ]try to survive mysteryland this weekend first, aight? ;)[/quote]

Mysteryland is euhm only a survival if it rains ;)

but you wont find me there

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I thought you had a ticket... anyway, you didn't miss anything, big let down...

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[quote=KinKyJ]I thought you had a ticket... anyway, you didn't miss anything, big let down...[/quote]

Mysteryland is not really my party.

I went there in 2002 because of Charo, which was fun enough.... Thought to try it again in 2004, but it simply wasnt for me. ID&T has lots of troubles to organize parties for people who love the Extrema vibe.