so...what can i say....... fucking war....stop that shit!!!

He made some good points, made me laugh, too. But the way he edited it all is annoying, so obviously done to take things out of context and create something totally different. And he generalizes to easily, leaves out the nuances totally. The world isn't as black&white as he makes it appear...

I finally just saw F911 recently too, but think its already been disected on here. Anyway, how many of his main points were discredited again???

Re:: finally...i just saw Farenheit 9/11

i just saw the promos of this movie, it didnt get to my country yet but i m looking forward to seeing it :)

[quote=Balanc3]I finally just saw F911 recently too, but think its already been disected on here. Anyway, how many of his main points were discredited again???[/quote]

I haven't seen anyone "discrediting" it's main points.

^you're not reading then commie, they're all over the place.

^^^ get'em Jenks.

[quote=Jenks]^you're not reading then commie, they're all over the place.[/quote]

Ok, then simply give us all an example of one the points that's been discredited.

CLAIM:

FACT:

SOURCE:

Some of them have been discussed already. Richard Clark, bin Laden's family, planes. Ring a bell?

All you need to do is look around, there have been many posts on all of the things the movie MISLEADS you on. Nobody is saying the Moore downright lies, but the ENTIRE MOVIE IS MISLEADING. Just pick a part, and I'll tell you whats misleading about it.

I STILL THINK HE IS A COMMIE.

THAT'S WHAT THEY DO.

For what it's worth, here's the factual support for the claims made in F9/11 from Moore's website:

[url]http://www.michaelmoore.com/warroom/f911notes/index.php?id=16[/url]

Please commence your complaining about the liberal media and bitching about the one-sided nature of how he presents his facts now.

:lol: Nice try Toast. But who the hell cares what is on Michael Moore's site? :lol: Of course his own website would have that info. Thats like saying you should buy an extended warranty, only because the manufacturer says you should.

And yes, I've come to the same conclusion. Delirious is a commie.:lol:

Hey, I'm just trying to balance the shit storm of info that will undoubtedly be cited from right wing web sites purporting to discredit the film completely. Fact is, the "truth" is probably somewhere in the middle. :)

^^^ or not all.

you forgot that part. :wink:

(commie)

Re:: finally...i just saw Farenheit 9/11

Still waiting for someone to show me where one of F911's main points was "discredited." A sentence or two will do :FuckOff:

^wait all your life for all i care, i'm not here to provide you with information, commie, educate yourself.

^^^ lol.

[quote=Jenks]^wait all your life for all i care, i'm not here to provide you with information, commie, educate yourself.[/quote]

The fact is that I don't stick to "liberal" sites, I'm always on FoxNews, the Drudge Report, Rushetc... and haven't yet seen an example of where one of his claims was discredited. Put up or shaddup, as they say.

[quote][b]A Conservative Review of Farenheight 9/11[/b] Bottom line.

The main message of this film is America has a huge problem and this problem is not just the White House; it is the Senate and House as well including both Democrats and Republicans. The Senate and the House abdicated their responsibility to the American people by giving up their Constitutional mandate as the only arm of the US Government empowered to declare war or invade another country. They shunned their responsibility to protect and defend the US Constitution by allowing ratification of the Patriot Act, the broadest destruction of constitutional rights ever presented without even reading it. They failed to protect the American people by holding the current office of the Presidency responsible and accountable for its actions. (The False Statement Statute Title 18, Section 1001 provides for a 5-year prison term for any government official caught lying, falsifying or concealing information from the American people while in office. Congress could prosecute our President based upon this statute, but they would also have to prosecute the majority of their members as well.) In essence, our government bodies declared war on the American people, consistently keeping us in a state of manufactured terror built on lies. Moore's film makes it clear that if Americans want the America our travel brochures and PR pretend we have, the American people are the only ones who can hold our leaders, all of them responsible. We can only do that through education and getting involved. In the end, reversing this is up to US.

If you're an American who cares about where this country is going and are disturbed by our present course, you owe it to yourself to see Fahrenheit 9/11. [size=6]You may not like the opinions, the satire or tactics, [b]but the facts speak for themselves.[/b][/size] This is not a movie for Liberals, Bush haters or peace activists. This is not a left-wing or right wing tirade. It is a dose of the reality we do not like to admit. Fahrenheit 9/11 is a movie for Americans, all Americans who care about their country and where it is heading and want the corruption, lies and hate to end. [/quote] [url]http://www.couplescompany.com/Features/CT/Movies/Fahrenheit911.htm[/url]

in other news...Moore's next movie has been announced...

[img]http://www.sacredcowburgers.com/parodies/blowhard.jpg[/img]

LOL... see how some people are such hypocrits. They blame Moore for being misleading and yet they mislead people in exactly the same kind of way. Moore has NEVER blamed Bush for the 9/11 attacks. "Catch that Bastard!" - Michael Moore on Osama Bin Laden.

[quote=delirious]LOL... see how some people are such hypocrits. They blame Moore for being misleading and yet they mislead people in exactly the same kind of way. Moore has NEVER blamed Bush for the 9/11 attacks. "Catch that Bastard!" - Michael Moore on Osama Bin Laden.[/quote]

Kill a commie for a mommie! :LoveYou: :Smiling: (sorry, couldn't resist :Who: )

Re:: finally...i just saw Farenheit 9/11

[url]www.michaelmoorehatesamerica.com[/url] :lol: Now this is something worth watching.

Delirious we know Michael Moore is your personal Jesus, but some of your remarks are over the top. Michael Moore made Fahrenheit 9/11 to get Bush out of office. Whether or not he blames Bush is irrelevant because he made the movie so that other people would.

Re:: finally...i just saw Farenheit 9/11

[quote=mylexicon]www.michaelmoorehatesamerica.com :lol: Now this is something worth watching. [/quote]

I'll definately give it a watch :)

[quote=mylexicon]Delirious we know Michael Moore is your personal Jesus, [/quote]

Michael Moore is not my personal Jesus, I see him more as a person with a political opinion that deserves his right to freedom of speech like every other American.

His movies [i]are[/i] in ways deceptive and misleading, which I agree is not ideal, but maybe he's trying to counter all the misleading and deceptive commentators from Fox and Co? When people attack others for being misleading by lying and being misleading themselves, they're being hypocrits and I'm going to call it and ask them to back up their statements in the same way they ask Michael Moore to.

I'm not pro-Michael Moore. When people tell lies about President Bush, I'll correct them in the same way.

[quote=mylexicon]but some of your remarks are over the top. Michael Moore made Fahrenheit 9/11 to get Bush out of office. [/quote]

I agree. What remarks are over the top?

[quote=mylexicon]Whether or not he blames Bush is irrelevant because he made the movie so that other people would.[/quote]

It's relevant if someone is misleading people by saying Michael Moore blames Bush. I personally think Americans are smart enough to make up their own minds about who to blame. They know Michael's agenda.

Heh. Bullshit used to counter other (supposed) BS is just what it always was - BS. Thanks for giving the vote of confidence to the Americans - we'll try and think for ourselves, only if it's just to prove to Mike Moore that we can :lol:

[quote=delirious][I'm always on FoxNews, the Drudge Report, Rushetc... and haven't yet seen an example of where one of his claims was discredited. [/quote]

i'm just wondering, does anybody have any links discrediting F911? if possible, can you post them?