Re: a message to cindy sheehan
[quote=robprunzit][quote=eye-p][quote=thesightless][quote=eye-p]
Nice try. :roll:[/quote]
fuck you.
im glad you looked up a law. way to go. however, you still seem to apply only ideas that make your point rather than looking bigger.
the national guard is in Iraq for the reason we are in the midst of an invasion which is stretching our groups thin.(because ppl like you dont have any balls to do something beyond your own personal gain and motivation). the main 4 branches still wont operate here. i know this because right now my brother James is in fort bragg getting ready to go there, my cousin keiran is a US ARMY attorney operating in the pentagon, and i am former 525th (forensic accounting/fort bragg/99-01/mos#2002ACC). the Military you see at coronado bridge is most likely the NG or a division of the marines that is on shore duty. the P.C. Act was put on hold in order allow 4 divisions of the ARMY to operate in DC and NYC. they arent acting on an offensive, they are here and in DC to back up the NG units that are stretched too thin.
you also seem to be forgetting that the Baath party killed over 300k people in under 25 years. continued to create purified unranium cake while blix and crew were sent on wild goose chases. we have indeed found bacteria, there still seems to be a stockpile of missles, explosives and other choice weapons.
you keep crying about big oil companies. i understand you belive that the oil is the single and only reason any conflict occurs in the middle east. i cant change the fact that you are narrow minded.[/quote]
So you are wrong, and I call you on it= Fuck You? Good job sparky.
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The Coronado bridge is protected by Marines on loan to DHS. I know this because I live here. Oh, and my next door neighbor is attached to that unit. They are active duty. This is a clear violation of P. C..
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The Baath party did not kill 300,000 people in 25 years. While they did kill over 10,000 with chemical weapons that WE sold them, and a whole bunch more in the Iran/Iraq war, they did not wholesale slaughter 300,000.
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Uranium cake? Are you totally stupid? NO WMD. Period. The yellow cake episode has been debunked. In fact, the Bush administration apologized for including this in the 2003 SOTU speech. Did you miss this important point? If you did, you can look at the Rovegate scandal that is happening right now. Joe Wilson calling bullshit on this is the reason they outed his wife.
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We found bacteria? Are you kidding? Bacteria? Bullshit. Bush said nukes. Condi said nukes. Cheney said nukes.
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Other weapons? Stockpiles of weapons? Of course he had weapons! Should the Iraqi army have shot spitballs at their enemies? I cant believe that you honestly believe this.
For the record, UN and US inspectors have found exactly 16 banned Al-Saamud missles. They were not operable, but they were still banned under UN sanctions.
Checkmate.[/quote]
Well, eye-p, I really don't want to get overly involved in this discussion, but I'll make a couple points I think worth mentioning.
You know it is easy to say anything, and make it sound true, even though it isn't true. And we all know, if you spew a lie long enough, everyone will believe it to be true.
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The troops found an underground bunker which they believed was an experimental station for nukes.
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The troops found certain shells which contained some other chemicals, maybe a small amount, risen, or something. But it was enough to kill 500,000 people if dispersed the correct way on a populated area.
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Saddam admitted to having chemical weapons and documented the stuff, the problem was he never showed how it was destroyed, hence we went to war. Not to mention, it would be pretty easy to hide the stuff, if your really honest. I hid pot from my mom growing up, and she was always looking for it. :)
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300,000 were killed, how can you get off saying it wasn't so. How can you misrepresent the truth like that. And it happened against the Kurds, right after Bush 1 stopped the Gulf war and allowed Saddam to keep Iraq intact. Saddam asked to be returned his helicopters, and he then used the copters to slaughter the Kurds which were building a good offensive against Saddam. And yes chemicals were used. Its documented. A fact!
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Then lastly logically, where were all the bombs he had to have just for normal defensive measures. I know some were found, but not much if I remember correctly.
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Funny you should mention lies becoming accepted wisdom, as long as they get repeated enough. As you and thesightless have found out, I dont usually speak about a topic unless I am right.
On the other hand, we can go right down the forum to find your threads, and, without exception you are proven wrong. Factually inaccurate.
Here, again, you are quite incorrect. I should address these points one at a time.
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The troops have found NOTHING. No WMD's. PERIOD. NO PROGRAM. NOTHING. ZIP. ZERO. Do you understand that? They found nothing. Further, a bunker is a bunker to the infantry. I would take a weapons inspector to determine what the bunker is used for. And, since every single report from every WMD inspector in Iraq has concluded that THEY HAD NOTHING, you are mistaken.
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In Bagdhad in 2004 an IED was diffused by marines. It used shells that contained 15 year old chemical weapons material. Problem is, stuff like Ricin has a shelf life of 1-5 years. See the problem here? Right. Again, expired Ricin in 2 mortar shells DOES NOT constitute WMD's. I am really not sure why you still dont get this.
Oh, BTW, feel free to google these incidents, along with the Duelfer report, or the CIA report, or the UN report if you dont believe me.
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Sadaam did indeed have a WMD program at one time. In fact, we sold it to him! Thats right, the Reagan administration sold Iraq all kinds of WMD's in the 1980's. Didnt you ever wonder how we KNEW EXACTLY HOW MUCH HE HAD? Hello? Right.
So here is the funny thing about hiding WMD's. Its not quite the same as hiding pot from mom. See, if you hid pot from mom, she wouldnt find it and then use it to kill you or invade your bedroom. On the other hand, if Sadaam hid WMD's or "moved" them to Syria, why wouldnt Syria then attack Iraq with them? You cant be this gullible. You cant really believe that Sadaam would actually give away his WMD's, just so he wouldnt get caught with them? -
The 300,000 dead number is totally inflated. First, he used WMD's against the Kurds and Iran in the Iraq/Iran war. You remember those weapons we just talked about? You know, the ones WE SOLD HIM? Right.
Second, after GHWBush pulled out in 1991/1992, he killed almost 25,000 kurds and others who attempted a coup. Again, this coup was instigated by US. Now, there have been more than 100,000 civilian deaths at the hands of US forces since the war started. How do you explain that?
- The bombs. Where do you think all the "insurgents" got all their weapons? Try googling Al Qaqaa. We decided not to guard ammo dumps at all when we invaded. We instead guarded the oil infrastructure.
Look rob, you can live in denial for the rest of your life. But think about this: All of us on the "left" were screaming about all of this shit when the war started, while you on the "right" said that we knew nothing, etc...
Who has been right so far?