Should be interesting in Cleveland this week with the repuplican convention and the right to carry arms in public. Good luck with that.

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i honestly can't get my head around some of the attitude's gun owners have towards why they should be allowed to have guns in the first place, it's quite scary some of the excuses they come up with, i keep hearing that criminals don't obey the law as a reason why they should own a gun in case they need to defend themselves from them yet as a person who has lived a country where criminals are the only ones to have guns and are not going around randomly murdering thousands each day i just can't explain that excuse to myself in my head, i tell people ( gun owners ) who tell me things like this that they fear or are a little paranoid, they come back with i don't fear and i,m certainly not paranoid, i then ask myself "well what are you prepared for then ?"... i just can't get my head around it

i get the fact it's within their rights to own a gun, i totally get that, personally i would like to drink coco cola with real cocaine in it or go to the doctors and get a script of pure heroin because i was in pain because someone tugged a hair out my arm

can you imagine the state america would of been in today if no one had taken action to ban these things, seriously, think about it, if attitudes don't start to change today about gun laws then it will be your children's children that are going to suffer from it

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dude you don't understand - the majority of American's dont fucking understand the stupidity of our gun laws...It's the NRA pouring millions of dollars into misinformation and fear-mongering campaigns that scream the loudest making it appear as though that's what "american's" think, but it's not. That's just another reason our country is so fucked up. It's like Exxon Mobile spending millions in false advertising about the causes of Global Warming.

[URL="https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=d000000082"]National Rifle Assn: Summary | OpenSecrets[/URL]

[video=youtube;IjP0pMHRrR0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjP0pMHRrR0[/video]

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it's a shocking state of affairs it really is, it's amazing what big business gets away with

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the clock is already winding down for us as humanity on this rock of a planet. the moment corporatism took over for the good of their shareholders only without the thought of the trillions of humans and who knows how many animals (besides us mammals) is when it all started to go down hill. i am afraid if we ever have a revolution against this, it will already be too late.

not trying to be a debbie downer, just speaking the truth. just have to live your life to the utmost ability you can, spread love as it is the only thing left.

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[URL="http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/07/how-american-politics-went-insane/485570/"]How American Politics Became So Ineffective - The Atlantic[/URL]

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That first day at the RNC was a complete shitshow.

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Mrs's trumps speech was painful to watch.

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;1188978]Mrs's trumps speech was painful to watch.[/QUOTE]

i had a convo with huggie about my desire to bang her, after seeing that speech i wish i could erase that convo from the face of the planet, she's thick as fuck and i'd rather actually bang trump rather than bang her ( if i was forced to chose )

i have to live my life knowing that there is another brain on earth knowing that i said that :lol:

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;1188978]Mrs's trumps speech was painful to watch.[/QUOTE]

Actually I think it was one of the bright spots of the convention - the message was trying to be hopeful.

Too bad it was plagiarized. Even worse, the Trump campaign doubled down on their own stupidity in denying it.

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For real my man? :lol: maybe we are talking about two different speeches?

[video=youtube;Jt_9yb4FSYA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt_9yb4FSYA[/video]

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By brighter points, I'd say it was more of a glossy black in a sea of matte black.

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:lol: :lol: I can dig that ^ :lol:

[video=youtube;Wh1wctQNKRM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh1wctQNKRM[/video]

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[video=youtube;1XIJR0EnLWA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XIJR0EnLWA[/video]

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Minus a few protests, everything went smoothly, so once again you leftists fail to see that law-abiding gun owners ARE NOT THE PROBLEM.

Meanwhile, there are predictably only crickets with regards to what is unfolding at the DNC convention, which is the real joke underscoring the absolute implosion happening with Hitlery and the corrupt as fuck Democrats. #NeverHilary is the message you should be taking from the leaks, but let's talk about banging Trump and those evil guns a little more.

Sarah Silverman (a shock "comedienne" who thinks her shit doesn't stink when that's all that exudes from her foul mouth) and rickety Al Franken (a SNL has-been) being brought in to hush Bernie bots but to no avail? Let the implosion continue. Just wish there was a better answer than Donald Trump, but that's what 8 years of divisiveness under the Ds has generated. Eat it up.

What a tiresome echo chamber this has become.

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Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are both on a sinking ship... Who is saved?

Our nation!

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[QUOTE=vinnie97;1189318]Minus a few protests, everything went smoothly, so once again you leftists fail to see that law-abiding gun owners ARE NOT THE PROBLEM.

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Wtf?

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[QUOTE=vinnie97;1189318]I substitute reality for my own interpretation.[/QUOTE]

More people are watching the DNC than the RNC genius.

And you can't even come up with your own terms, despite constantly saying your ignoring me, you're reading my posts

[Trump]Sad![/Trump]

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Vinnie you can call me a "centrist" bud, and we probably have a lot more in common than you think on our politics. First of all, I put the humans heart and character before their politics. I also don't prejudge a person based on religion or ethnicity. Anyway, digressing somewhat, but I don't think lawful gun owners are the problem at all. I do think some of the types of guns available and the ease at which they are available is an issue.

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And a fucking another one [url="http://www.theage.com.au/world/multiple-victims-from-gunman-in-texas-shooting-20160731-gqht6p.html"]Multiple victims from gunman in Texas shooting[/url]

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[video=youtube;fweHt8yTgoE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fweHt8yTgoE[/video]

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;1189373]Vinnie you can call me a "centrist" bud, and we probably have a lot more in common than you think on our politics. First of all, I put the humans heart and character before their politics. I also don't prejudge a person based on religion or ethnicity. Anyway, digressing somewhat, but I don't think lawful gun owners are the problem at all. I do think some of the types of guns available and the ease at which they are available is an issue.[/QUOTE] Perhaps we could find some common ground yet, but I question the methods you would employ to make it more difficult for the public to have access to guns deemed too dangerous. Such methods (national gun registries) have been used to abuse and oppress populaces in the past (Godwin is calling). The current DEM candidate going down in flames has publicly expressed her disdain for the 2nd Amendment and has shown to be quite Googly-eyed over the thought of outright gun confiscation. She of course couldn't get away with it without causing a bloodbath of a magnitude not seen since the first Civil War. I personally doubt that adding yet more red tape would decrease gun violence where it is most prevalent and problematic.