come on if you don't see this in black and white just like how the media made it out to be....your Fing BLIND

you can go here to see that there was a drill scheduled for charleston on june 15-19 2015!

[URL]https://www.fletc.gov[/URL]

[URL]https://www.fletc.gov/training-program/active-shooter-threat-training-program[/URL]

this was updated 2/26/15 so nothing new has changed!!!

[URL]https://www.fletc.gov/training-calendar[/URL]

you can scroll down to see for yourself...NOW WHAT DO YOU GOTTA SAY?

oh and the crisis actors have come out

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This is disrespectful to the victims and their families. You need help man.

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crisis actor at his worst...ITS FUCKING SCRIPTED

[video=youtube;68we3aP_UNE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68we3aP_UNE[/video]

bro you mad cause you can't see the shits FAKE

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We need to delete this section of Mercuryserver.

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;1166431]This is disrespectful to the victims and their families. You need help man.[/QUOTE]

I don't think any of them post here. You have bored them all to death.

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[QUOTE=Jenks;1166434]We need to delete this section of Mercuryserver.[/QUOTE]

^^^THIS!! pleeeaseee

Sakio, you're linking together annual scheduled training/drills of police officers in an area to the occurrence of a horrendous crime in the same area with the only reasoning being that's it's the same area and the subject is crime. That's an absurd leap in judgement that is completely illogical. Clinging to 'conspiracy theories' in every aspect regarding anything that happens, while it might be fun to you & capture your interest, it's actually the intrusion of illogical thought processes that serve no one but yourself. If you want to help people, develop some compassion because you're passing judgement on very young people who are in shock and dealing with grief, they repeat words taught to them by the elders in their families & then you're calling them "crisis actors" which is also absurd if you know (or take the time) to learn anything about psychology & the way people process grief.

My soon-to-be son-in-law is in law enforcement and I can tell you there are heaps & heaps of real evidence that never gets shown in the media or to the public in cases like this, and training sessions are just that, training sessions, not some staged crime scene sold or given to the media for hype. Daily, hundreds of police officers are dedicating their lives/careers to handling violent criminal activity and it's no joke and is real.

Your mind is very accustomed to movies and staged scenes that show frame-by-frame incidents intended to look real because they were planned and filmed to be visually accurate, but not actually accurate/real life. So, of course, you believe everything is LIKE the movies. In real life, cameras, cell phones, etc. can't capture everything that occurs within seconds without notice because in real life there's no director slowing the process down long enough for a camera to capture it. For example, a plane flying 600+ mph. That doesn't mean it isn't there or didn't happen. Cameras are just a way to perceive something, to try to capture what can't be paused... not actual proof, and neither are these youtubes.

And besides, since this is a music forum, please play a different tune. Your playing the same song so repetitively, it's boring & annoying, and because you have no proof whatsoever other than some youtubers who are of similar mindset as you, you're coming across as a loud, resounding CLANG being played over & over that no one wants to hear. [URL]http://www.wimp.com/annoyingsounds/[/URL]

:D ..... don't bait me. can't argue with crazy and your theory really is.

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It happens every time there is a staged shooting that's how they make it look real! Hello fake people fake video a lot of cops, ambulances and fire trucks with their lights on must be real,

No one died...do u believe everything on TV? You people are being played sorry you can't see it.

not everything is staged! The media is in on it!!

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VIDEO:

The fact is she was interviewing teenagers who have just (within 24 hours) experienced what's probably one of the most profound losses a young person can face. Fact is that the first stage of grief is SHOCK/DENIAL... notice how he still talks about his mother in present tense (as if she's still here). It hasn't hit any of them what's actually happened, she's gone.

The fact is that teenage brains are wired this way, to process things very slowly and for survival. They also have a strong desire to please people older than themselves, make an impression, and appear notably strong and stable and suddenly have a large, probably media-size camera shoved in their faces asking them to process something intensely emotional. These kids live through this by clinging to their core values, how they were raised; they were raised in a church believing above all else that death has no sting and they are to honor their parents, so they are honoring their mother by being poised and talking about love. That's what she would want them to do, that's how she raised them. Plus, they are receiving very specific focused attention, and that is very soothing to a teenager, almost to the point they will do anything to receive that. That's how they "feel the love" they are receiving loving attention and nothing has hit them as real yet. But it will. This is one of the aspects of teenagers that makes them so vulnerable, they can't weigh in on very dire circumstances in a very emotionally-raw way, and yet, maybe that's how they survive?

Any two minute interview can't show what any person is actually going through inside at any given moment, but especially teenagers or anyone under age 25. They handle shock quite well... that's a fact.

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[QUOTE=sakio pod;1166453]It happens every time there is a staged shooting that's how they make it look real! Hello fake people fake video a lot of cops, ambulances and fire trucks with their lights on must be real,

No one died...do u believe everything on TV? You people are being played sorry you can't see it.

not everything is staged! The media is in on it!![/QUOTE]

Have you ever suddenly lost a parent or a child? Do you know anyone who is a police officer, EMT, or fireman? I've known several. Your theory holds no weight whatsoever. Did you read anything I wrote? Are you willing at all to actually LEARN about people? Please sing a different tune.

Try studying GRIEF and then revisit all your theories, you'll see these youtube interviews are as ludicrous as your arguments.

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Exactly people don't act like they lost anyone even remotely close to a family member, and everyone forgives the shooter....they have nothing but love for him. COME ON people don't act like that that have a soul!

dont give me this crap their brain is wired differently!

Have u lost anyone or anything got people who lose their dogs so more emotions than these crappy crisis actors

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[QUOTE=Jenks;1166434]We need to delete this section of Mercuryserver.[/QUOTE]

+100

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[QUOTE=sakio pod;1166456]Exactly people don't act like they lost anyone even remotely close to a family member, and everyone forgives the shooter....they have nothing but love for him. COME ON people don't act like that that have a soul!

dont give me this crap their brain is wired differently!

Have u lost anyone or anything got people who lose their dogs so more emotions than these crappy crisis actors[/QUOTE]

It is a scientific fact that brains are not fully developed until age 25. It is a fact that grief is processed through denial/shock first & focused attention is like a [love] drug to a teenager.

Have you ever been a member of a church? Ever raised in a church? Ever raised a teenager Sakio? NO, NO, NOPE. Then how can you pass judgement on these kids who were? You cannot fathom what they have been taught, what they believe to be true, or how they are processing their loss. How dare you judge them as fake. Note, you have not answered a single one of my questions.

Fact is, it might be a week, month or even year before those kids can actually process what's happened, feel their emotions around it, and begin to grieve their loss. They are numb. Ever seen something so awful you've shut down? I have. Ever had something so awful happen you couldn't process it for decades because it happened when you were a teenager? I have. Your arguments hold no water.

That kid talked about his mother in present tense, thus, proof he has not processed that she is really gone. He is living a nightmare he can't fathom to be true. It's right there in your video and YOU refuse to see it.

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[QUOTE=sakio pod;1166456] Have u lost anyone or anything? got people who lose their dogs so more emotions than these crappy crisis actors[/QUOTE]

If this question is for me, I'll gladly answer. Yes, I lost my live/healthy first baby right out of my arms when I was a teenager and I could not process it. Yes, I lost my dad, watched him die while I was holding his hand and it took years to process it. I've been a member of a church for 20 years & I know what they teach kids. I have a family member who's a cop and his father is a retired fireman. Yes, I also have associate's and bachelor's degrees in Child Psychology and I'm intimately aware and educated about GRIEF.

Any other questions?

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It's the same song and dance every time this happens.

im sorry for your losses but NO ONE DIED here!

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[QUOTE=sakio pod;1166461]It's the same song and dance every time this happens.[/QUOTE]

^^ that's you you're talking about.

You offer no objective, educated evidence. The police have all kinds of evidence, guaranteed. Have some compassion!!!

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[QUOTE=KiwiTollway;1166452]^^^THIS!! pleeeaseee

Your mind is very accustomed to movies and staged scenes that show frame-by-frame incidents intended to look real because they were planned and filmed to be visually accurate, but not actually accurate/real life. So, of course, you believe everything is LIKE the movies. In real life, cameras, cell phones, etc. can't capture everything that occurs within seconds without notice because in real life there's no director slowing the process down long enough for a camera to capture it. For example, a plane flying 600+ mph. That doesn't mean it isn't there or didn't happen. Cameras are just a way to perceive something, to try to capture what can't be paused... not actual proof, and neither are these youtubes.

[/QUOTE]

What total and utter rubbish. No in real life camera can't show frame-by-frame footage, but when you have multiple cameras at different locations all facing to the same area, with different capture speeds and not one shows a picture of an actual plane. Then when the pentagon publish four stills they are claiming show a plane crashing into a building, you expect to see a plane in the picture.

You go on about people being accustomed to movies, then tell us you were a member of a church for 20 years.

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Cameras are used to [U]perceive something.[/U] You're wanting proof from a camera(s).

Doesn't mean it didn't happen & doesn't mean there isn't mounds of other proof.

Not everything can be visually perceived and if that's your only source of proof, you have bigger issues than conspiracy theory ones. Believe you've seen every picture or video of the event? get real

You keep adding 1 + 2 and getting 5 and it's just illogical, impractical, ludicrous reasoning.

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[QUOTE=KiwiTollway;1166452]

My soon-to-be son-in-law is in law enforcement and I can tell you there are heaps & heaps of real evidence that never gets shown in the media or to the public in cases like this, and training sessions are just that, training sessions, not some staged crime scene sold or given to the media for hype. Daily, hundreds of police officers are dedicating their lives/careers to handling violent criminal activity and it's no joke and is real.

[/QUOTE]

You are aware many first responders, police, firemen etc had their testimonies buried over 9/11. This whole we have evidence but you can't see it is bullshit.

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[QUOTE=George&Lynne;1166463] You go on about people being accustomed to movies, then tell us you were a member of a church for 20 years.[/QUOTE]

what does one have to do with the other? Again, ludicrous reasoning.

I was not a member of a church for a long time. I was a member of a church for a long time. My point was that if you're uneducated about what really goes on in churches or what they teach children, then don't go around judging those same children that had a kind of upbringing you know nothing about.

Those were a pastor's kids being interviewed. They are nothing like you, yet you judge then as fake. That's horrendous reasoning.

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[QUOTE=Zover;1166466]You are aware many first responders, police, firemen etc had their testimonies buried over 9/11. This whole we have evidence but you can't see it is bullshit.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for misquoting me. I never said "we have evidence."

Doesn't mean evidence doesn't exist. Your reasoning is bs & illogical.

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[QUOTE=KiwiTollway;1166464]Cameras are used to [U]perceive something.[/U] You're wanting proof from a camera(s).

Doesn't mean it didn't happen & doesn't mean there isn't mounds of other proof.

Not everything can be visually perceived and if that's your only source of proof, you have bigger issues than conspiracy theory ones. Believe you've seen every picture or video of the event? get real

You keep adding 1 + 2 and getting 5 and it's just illogical, impractical, ludicrous reasoning.[/QUOTE]

Acctually I am not relying on the camera footage as my only proof. Mounds of other proof please! Looks at the testimonies of the people who where actually there, the lack of plane wreckage, fires burning for days after, thirmide at ground zero etc.

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[QUOTE=KiwiTollway;1166468]Thanks for misquoting me. I never said "we have evidence."

Doesn't mean evidence doesn't exist. Your reasoning is bs & illogical.[/QUOTE]

Like a building that falls down at free fall speed from office fires.

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[QUOTE=KiwiTollway;1166467]what does one have to do with the other? Again, ludicrous reasoning.

I was not a member of a church for a long time. I was a member of a church for a long time. My point was that if you're uneducated about what really goes on in churches or what they teach children, then don't go around judging those same children that had a kind of upbringing you know nothing about.

Those were a pastor's kids being interviewed. They are nothing like you, yet you judge then as fake. That's horrendous reasoning.[/QUOTE]

I don't think George or Lynne said they were fake.

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[QUOTE=KiwiTollway;1166468]Thanks for misquoting me. I never said "we have evidence."

Doesn't mean evidence doesn't exist. Your reasoning is bs & illogical.[/QUOTE]

Really so what piece of evidence do why have of the official 9/11 story have we seen, that stands up to scrutiny? So they will show us the flimsy evidence, but not the hard evidence.

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[QUOTE=KiwiTollway;1166464]

You keep adding 1 + 2 and getting 5 and it's just illogical, impractical, ludicrous reasoning.[/QUOTE]

So 20 years in a church, did you go there because you liked the stories, or did you believe the stories were true? Religion = No evidence whatsoever. You have to have faith apparently. 1 + 2 = God LOL

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The post is about Charleston, SC and I was referring to Sakio who is always posting youtubes as his video proof.

If you're used to going to movies all your life & you enjoy and invest intellectually in youtube videos as your primary source of information, then you're free to believe whatever you want, go right ahead; I don't care. But, when you start judging an event as fake and people as actors, you better have something real to back up your opinion (earned education, actual life experience, first-hand knowledge of the people/places involved. etc.), because that's mean, distasteful, arrogant, and petty.

There is every bit of evidence in that video (if the video shows the pastor's actual kids, idk) that those kids are real....... I can break it down for you if you'd like, but I'd rather not bore myself. Who in their right mind would go around believing any Joe on Youtube and calling it definitive proof? That's ludicrous.

I'm not saying the media is all noble and trustworthy, but they are also not all wackos and conspirators as Sakio believes. He wants others to open their minds, why doesn't he open his and get educated about the things he professes? He professed there was no emotion shown and I adequately explained why. But I saw lots of things in that same video that question his opinion.

My point in what George/Lynn quoted me as saying was in my last sentence. He/she called it all utter bs and rubbish.

Oh who cares, this is so boring & tedious. Carry on amongst yourselves.

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Sorry last movie I seen was avatar!!

look here is another shooting of 5 people in a chruch back in 2006 was never covered by the MSM

[URL]http://www.cbsnews.com/news/5-dead-in-louisiana-church-shooting/[/URL] they pick and choose only their narrative to play to u

they raised 30 million dollars already for the fake famlies and the chruch has reopened already!

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Get some psychological help with your thought processes [cognitive therapy] or enjoy your life in your little conspiracy bubble. A closed mind is a terrible waste.

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The politics forum is pretty much Zover and Sakio Pod comparing each others cock sizes under the guise of who can scream loudest who's the most awake and who can be the most crass as a human being with the subject matter. Attention whoring at its finest. I'm guessing Sakio is acting as a surrogate Running Man, while Zover is just a dumber version of vinnie97 - the guy starts a thread about abusing an animal instead of maybe considering another running route - what does that say about his intelligence?

I mean seriously - these dipshits believe anything that they can find on youtube that suits their bias, and end it there, claiming they've found the truth. LOL - yeah, that's some great research skills boys - how the fuck did you get past the 3rd grade, much less any job above fry cook at McDonalds?

You both truly believe that a conspiracy that you're claiming to be uncovered is completely unraveled in a single youtube video that you came across on the internet? How fucking retarded are you both? Think about that for a second. Seriously, sit on your hands for a second before frantically tapping the reply nonsense and think how convenient your reasoning is with the "evidence" you're standing behind.

Let them jerk each other off. It's amusing to see how desperate each of them are to be seen as "enlightened" while each displaying a massive inferiority complex and overcompensating for it. They'll get tired of it, and Zover will get hostile to anyone that he feels threatened by. Just watch, he'll go fucking ballistic after he spots this post.

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[QUOTE=Jenks;1166434]We need to delete this section of Mercuryserver.[/QUOTE]

Hopefully this happens with the upcoming(?) downsize.

We used to have thoughtful discussions here.. but that went away long ago.

Religion has caused more human death than any other reason; Politics is just another stupid religion.

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[QUOTE=el presidente Highsteppa;1166506]The politics forum is pretty much Zover and Sakio Pod comparing each others cock sizes under the guise of who can scream loudest who's the most awake and who can be the most crass as a human being with the subject matter. Attention whoring at its finest. I'm guessing Sakio is acting as a surrogate Running Man, while Zover is just a dumber version of vinnie97 - the guy starts a thread about abusing an animal instead of maybe considering another running route - what does that say about his intelligence?

I mean seriously - these dipshits believe anything that they can find on youtube that suits their bias, and end it there, claiming they've found the truth. LOL - yeah, that's some great research skills boys - how the fuck did you get past the 3rd grade, much less any job above fry cook at McDonalds?

You both truly believe that a conspiracy that you're claiming to be uncovered is completely unraveled in a single youtube video that you came across on the internet? How fucking retarded are you both? Think about that for a second. Seriously, sit on your hands for a second before frantically tapping the reply nonsense and think how convenient your reasoning is with the "evidence" you're standing behind.

Let them jerk each other off. It's amusing to see how desperate each of them are to be seen as "enlightened" while each displaying a massive inferiority complex and overcompensating for it. They'll get tired of it, and Zover will get hostile to anyone that he feels threatened by. Just watch, he'll go fucking ballistic after he spots this post.[/QUOTE]

they're mostly just trolling. no way do they believe what they're saying.

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Why is this real to you??? Because it's on the tv? If this was in a paper and u read it somewhere far from where u lived would it affect you, or is it because your being programmed, to get pissed off and upset and wanna start hating on people? Because it's race related?

i mean...seriously FOR REAL evvvvvvvvvveryrhing on the news is REALLY real? If the media,didn't stage crap they would have NO ratings

you guys are pissed off because I'm stating against the facts that are given by the govt control MSM!

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[QUOTE=el presidente Highsteppa;1166506]The politics forum is pretty much Zover and Sakio Pod comparing each others cock sizes under the guise of who can scream loudest who's the most awake and who can be the most crass as a human being with the subject matter. Attention whoring at its finest. I'm guessing Sakio is acting as a surrogate Running Man, while Zover is just a dumber version of vinnie97 - the guy starts a thread about abusing an animal instead of maybe considering another running route - what does that say about his intelligence?

I mean seriously - these dipshits believe anything that they can find on youtube that suits their bias, and end it there, claiming they've found the truth. LOL - yeah, that's some great research skills boys - how the fuck did you get past the 3rd grade, much less any job above fry cook at McDonalds?

You both truly believe that a conspiracy that you're claiming to be uncovered is completely unraveled in a single youtube video that you came across on the internet? How fucking retarded are you both? Think about that for a second. Seriously, sit on your hands for a second before frantically tapping the reply nonsense and think how convenient your reasoning is with the "evidence" you're standing behind.

Let them jerk each other off. It's amusing to see how desperate each of them are to be seen as "enlightened" while each displaying a massive inferiority complex and overcompensating for it. They'll get tired of it, and Zover will get hostile to anyone that he feels threatened by. Just watch, he'll go fucking ballistic after he spots this post.[/QUOTE]

First I don't recall posting any YouTube videos as truth, So If I did can point one out to me?

Second you're the one getting hostel here. Hinting tales of homophobia is always a sign of a poor argument. If you can point me in the direction of any thread where I have indicated that I am a homosexual, I would appreciate that.

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Oh and I can't take another route as I have to get to work. "Oh err uhm" got nothing tangible I know let's call me a homosexual. LOL

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;1166512]they're mostly just trolling. no way do they believe what they're saying.[/QUOTE]

Fuck of you slimy cunt. You're the king of YouTube videos and posting links you haven't read.

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I'll be back on this tonight.

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;1166512]they're mostly just trolling. no way do they believe what they're saying.[/QUOTE]

Said the troll.

The guy who admitted himself that his posts are akin to a 14 year old's daydreams.

The guy who posts something inflammatory on a subject he knows nothing about and is unwilling to research, to get a reaction and then hides behind others when taken to task. If that isn't trolling then feel free to give us your definition Mr orange.

There are clearly still pockets of people in the states who believe all the bollocks they are fed by their govt, in spite of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Is it patriotism? Is that why? I'm struggling to think of another explanation.

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They took the Dylann roof aka the shooter of 9 people to Burger King because he was hungry.....you can't make that shit up!

its fucking fake....when was the last time a killer was able to swing by and grab a burger LMAO

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[QUOTE=Zover;1166519]First I don't recall posting any YouTube videos as truth, So If I did can point one out to me?

Second you're the one getting hostel here. Hinting tales of homophobia is always a sign of a poor argument. If you can point me in the direction of any thread where I have indicated that I am a homosexual, I would appreciate that.[/QUOTE]

Ahhhh so you can communicate politely.