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a war in the planning for four years !

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A War in the Planning for Four Years HOW STUPID DO THEY THINK WE ARE? Zbigniew Brzezinski and the CFR Put War Plans In a 1997 Book -

              It Is "A Blueprint for World Dictatorship," Says a Former 
              German Defense and NATO Official Who Warned of Global 
              Domination in 1984, 
              in an Exclusive Interview With FTW
              by
              Michael C. Ruppert
              
              "THE GRAND CHESSBOARD - American Primacy And It's Geostrategic 
              Imperatives," Zbigniew Brzezinski, Basic Books, 1997. 
              These are the very first words in the book: "Ever since the 
              continents started interacting politically, some five hundred 
              years ago, Eurasia has been the center of world power."- p. 
              xiii. Eurasia is all of the territory east of Germany and 
              Poland, stretching all the way through Russia and China to the 
              Pacific Ocean. It includes the Middle East and most of the 
              Indian subcontinent. The key to controlling Eurasia, says 
              Brzezinski, is controlling the Central Asian Republics. And 
              the key to controlling the Central Asian republics is 
              Uzbekistan. Thus, it comes as no surprise that Uzbekistan was 
              forcefully mentioned by President George W. Bush in his 
              address to a joint session of Congress, just days after the 
              attacks of September 11, as the very first place that the U.S. 
              military would be deployed.
              As FTW has documented in previous stories, major deployments 
              of U.S. and British forces had taken place before the attacks. 
              And the U.S. Army and the CIA had been active in Uzbekistan 
              for several years. There is now evidence that what the world 
              is witnessing is a cold and calculated war plan - at least 
              four years in the making - and that, from reading Brzezinski's 
              own words about Pearl Harbor, the World Trade Center attacks 
              were just the trigger needed to set the final conquest in 
              motion.
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              FTW, November 7, 2001, 1200 PST (Revised Jan. 21,2002) - 
              There's a quote often attributed to Allen Dulles after it was 
              noted that the final 1964 report of the Warren Commission on 
              the assassination of JFK contained dramatic inconsistencies. 
              Those inconsistencies, in effect, disproved the Commission's 
              own final conclusion that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone on 
              November 22, 1963. Dulles, a career spy, Wall Street lawyer, 
              the CIA director whom JFK had fired after the 1961 Bay of Pigs 
              fiasco - and the Warren Commission member who took charge of 
              the investigation and final report - is reported to have said, 
              "The American people don't read."
              Some Americans do read. So do Europeans and Asians and 
              Africans and Latin Americans.
              World events since the attacks of September 11, 2001 have not 
              only been predicted, but also planned, orchestrated and - as 
              their architects would like to believe - controlled. The 
              current Central Asian war is not a response to terrorism, nor 
              is it a reaction to Islamic fundamentalism. It is in fact, in 
              the words of one of the most powerful men on the planet, the 
              beginning of a final conflict before total world domination by 
              the United States leads to the dissolution of all national 
              governments. This, says Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) 
              member and former Carter National Security Advisor, Zbigniew 
              Brzezinski, will lead to nation states being incorporated into 
              a new world order, controlled solely by economic interests as 
              dictated by banks, corporations and ruling elites concerned 
              with the maintenance (by manipulation and war) of their power. 
              As a means of intimidation for the unenlightened reader who 
              happens upon this frightening plan - the plan of the CFR - 
              Brzezinski offers the alternative of a world in chaos unless 
              the U.S. controls the planet by whatever means are necessary 
              and likely to succeed. 
              This position is corroborated by Dr. Johannes B. Koeppl, Ph.D. 
              a former German defense ministry official and advisor to 
              former NATO Secretary General Manfred Werner. On November 6, 
              he told FTW, "The interests behind the Bush Administration, 
              such as the CFR, The Trilateral Commission - founded by 
              Brzezinski for David Rockefeller - and the Bilderberger Group, 
              have prepared for and are now moving to implement open world 
              dictatorship within the next five years. They are not fighting 
              against terrorists. They are fighting against citizens."
              Brzezinski's own words - laid against the current official 
              line that the United States is waging a war to end terrorism - 
              are self-incriminating. In an ongoing series of articles, FTW 
              has consistently established that the U.S. government had 
              foreknowledge of the World Trade Center attacks and chose not 
              to stop them because it needed to secure public approval for a 
              war that is now in progress. It is a war, as described by Vice 
              President Dick Cheney, "that may not end in our lifetimes." 
              What that means is that it will not end until all armed 
              groups, anywhere in the world, which possess the political, 
              economic or military ability to resist the imposition of this 
              dictatorship, have been destroyed. 
              These are the "terrorists" the U.S. now fights in Afghanistan 
              and plans to soon fight all over the globe.
              Before exposing Brzezinski (and those he represents) with his 
              own words, or hearing more from Dr. Koeppl, it is worthwhile 
              to take a look at Brzezinski's background.
              According to his resume Brzezinski, holding a 1953 Ph.D. from 
              Harvard, lists the following achievements:
              Counselor, Center for Strategic and International Studies
              Professor of American Foreign Policy, Johns Hopkins University
              National Security Advisor to President Jimmy Carter (1977-81)
              Trustee and founder of the Trilateral Commission
              International advisor of several major US/Global corporations
              Associate of Henry Kissinger
              Under Ronald Reagan - member of NSC-Defense Department 
              Commission on Integrated Long-Term Strategy
              Under Ronald Reagan - member of the President's Foreign 
              Intelligence Advisory Board
              Past member, Board of Directors, The Council on Foreign 
              Relations
              1988 - Co-chairman of the Bush National Security Advisory Task 
              Force.
              Brzezinski is also a past attendee and presenter at several 
              conferences of the Bilderberger group - a non-partisan 
              affiliation of the wealthiest and most powerful families and 
              corporations on the planet.
              The Grand Chessboard
              Brzezinski sets the tone for his strategy by describing Russia 
              and China as the two most important countries - almost but not 
              quite superpowers - whose interests that might threaten the 
              U.S. in Central Asia. Of the two, Brzezinski considers Russia 
              to be the more serious threat. Both nations border Central 
              Asia. In a lesser context he describes the Ukraine, 
              Azerbaijan, Iran and Kazakhstan as essential "lesser" nations 
              that must be managed by the U.S. as buffers or counterweights 
              to Russian and Chinese moves to control the oil, gas and 
              minerals of the Central Asian Republics (Turkmenistan, 
              Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, and Kyrgyzstan). 
              He also notes, quite clearly (p. 53) that any nation that 
              might become predominant in Central Asia would directly 
              threaten the current U.S. control of oil resources in the 
              Persian Gulf. In reading the book it becomes clear why the 
              U.S. had a direct motive for the looting of some $300 billion 
              in Russian assets during the 1990s, destabilizing Russia's 
              currency (1998) and ensuring that a weakened Russia would have 
              to look westward to Europe for economic and political 
              survival, rather than southward to Central Asia. A dependent 
              Russia would lack the military, economic and political clout 
              to exert influence in the region and this weakening of Russia 
              would explain why Russian President Vladimir Putin has been 
              such a willing ally of U.S. efforts to date. (See FTW Vol. IV, 
              No. 1 - March 31, 2001)
              An examination of selected quotes from "The Grand Chessboard," 
              in the context of current events reveals the darker agenda 
              behind military operations that were planned long before 
              September 11th, 2001.
              "...The last decade of the twentieth century has witnessed a 
              tectonic shift in world affairs. For the first time ever, a 
              non-Eurasian power has emerged not only as a key arbiter of 
              Eurasian power relations but also as the world's paramount 
              power. The defeat and collapse of the Soviet Union was the 
              final step in the rapid ascendance of a Western Hemisphere 
              power, the United States, as the sole and, indeed, the first 
              truly global power... (p. xiii)
              "... But in the meantime, it is imperative that no Eurasian 
              challenger emerges, capable of dominating Eurasia and thus of 
              also challenging America. The formulation of a comprehensive 
              and integrated Eurasian geostrategy is therefore the purpose 
              of this book. (p. xiv)
              "The attitude of the American public toward the external 
              projection of American power has been much more ambivalent. 
              The public supported America's engagement in World War II 
              largely because of the shock effect of the Japanese attack on 
              Pearl Harbor. (pp 24-5)
              "For America, the chief geopolitical prize is Eurasia... Now a 
              non-Eurasian power is preeminent in Eurasia - and America's 
              global primacy is directly dependent on how long and how 
              effectively its preponderance on the Eurasian continent is 
              sustained. (p.30)
              "America's withdrawal from the world or because of the sudden 
              emergence of a successful rival - would produce massive 
              international instability. It would prompt global anarchy." 
              (p. 30)
              "In that context, how America 'manages' Eurasia is critical. 
              Eurasia is the globe's largest continent and is geopolitically 
              axial. A power that dominates Eurasia would control two of the 
              world's three most advanced and economically productive 
              regions. A mere glance at the map also suggests that control 
              over Eurasia would almost automatically entail Africa's 
              subordination, rendering the Western Hemisphere and Oceania 
              geopolitically peripheral to the world's central continent. 
              About 75 per cent of the world's people live in Eurasia, and 
              most of the world's physical wealth is there as well, both in 
              its enterprises and underneath its soil. Eurasia accounts for 
              60 per cent of the world's GNP and about three-fourths of the 
              world's known energy resources." (p.31)
              It is also a fact that America is too democratic at home to be 
              autocratic abroad. This limits the use of America's power, 
              especially its capacity for military intimidation. Never 
              before has a populist democracy attained international 
              supremacy. But the pursuit of power is not a goal that 
              commands popular passion, except in conditions of a sudden 
              threat or challenge to the public's sense of domestic 
              well-being. The economic self-denial (that is, defense 
              spending) and the human sacrifice (casualties, even among 
              professional soldiers) required in the effort are uncongenial 
              to democratic instincts. Democracy is inimical to imperial 
              mobilization." (p.35)
              "Two basic steps are thus required: first, to identify the 
              geostrategically dynamic Eurasian states that have the power 
              to cause a potentially important shift in the international 
              distribution of power and to decipher the central external 
              goals of their respective political elites and the likely 
              consequences of their seeking to attain them;... second, to 
              formulate specific U.S. policies to offset, co-opt, and/or 
              control the above..." (p. 40)
              "...To put it in a terminology that harkens back to the more 
              brutal age of ancient empires, the three grand imperatives of 
              imperial geostrategy are to prevent collusion and maintain 
              security dependence among the vassals, to keep tributaries 
              pliant and protected, and to keep the barbarians from coming 
              together." (p.40)
              "Henceforth, the United States may have to determine how to 
              cope with regional coalitions that seek to push America out of 
              Eurasia, thereby threatening America's status as a global 
              power." (p.55)
              "Uzbekistan, nationally the most vital and the most populous 
              of the central Asian states, represents the major obstacle to 
              any renewed Russian control over the region. Its independence 
              is critical to the survival of the other Central Asian states, 
              and it is the least vulnerable to Russian pressures." (p. 121)
              Referring to an area he calls the "Eurasian Balkans" and a 
              1997 map in which he has circled the exact location of the 
              current conflict - describing it as the central region of 
              pending conflict for world dominance - Brzezinski writes: 
              "Moreover, they [the Central Asian Republics] are of 
              importance from the standpoint of security and historical 
              ambitions to at least three of their most immediate and more 
              powerful neighbors, namely Russia, Turkey and Iran, with China 
              also signaling an increasing political interest in the region. 
              But the Eurasian Balkans are infinitely more important as a 
              potential economic prize: an enormous concentration of natural 
              gas and oil reserves is located in the region, in addition to 
              important minerals, including gold." (p.124) [Emphasis added]
              "The world's energy consumption is bound to vastly increase 
              over the next two or three decades. Estimates by the U.S. 
              Department of energy anticipate that world demand will rise by 
              more than 50 percent between 1993 and 2015, with the most 
              significant increase in consumption occurring in the Far East. 
              The momentum of Asia's economic development is already 
              generating massive pressures for the exploration and 
              exploitation of new sources of energy and the Central Asian 
              region and the Caspian Sea basin are known to contain reserves 
              of natural gas and oil that dwarf those of Kuwait, the Gulf of 
              Mexico, or the North Sea." (p.125)
              "Uzbekistan is, in fact, the prime candidate for regional 
              leadership in Central Asia." (p.130)
              "Once pipelines to the area have been developed, 
              Turkmenistan's truly vast natural gas reserves augur a 
              prosperous future for the country's people. (p.132)
              "In fact, an Islamic revival - already abetted from the 
              outside not only by Iran but also by Saudi Arabia - is likely 
              to become the mobilizing impulse for the increasingly 
              pervasive new nationalisms, determined to oppose any 
              reintegration under Russian - and hence infidel - control." 
              (p. 133).
              "For Pakistan, the primary interest is to gain Geostrategic 
              depth through political influence in Afghanistan - and to deny 
              to Iran the exercise of such influence in Afghanistan and 
              Tajikistan - and to benefit eventually from any pipeline 
              construction linking Central Asia with the Arabian Sea." 
              (p.139)
              "Turkmenistan... has been actively exploring the construction 
              of a new pipeline through Afghanistan and Pakistan to the 
              Arabian Sea..." (p.145)
              "It follows that America's primary interest is to help ensure 
              that no single power comes to control this geopolitical space 
              and that the global community has unhindered financial and 
              economic access to it." (p148)
              "China's growing economic presence in the region and its 
              political stake in the area's independence are also congruent 
              with America's interests." (p.149)
              "America is now the only global superpower, and Eurasia is the 
              globe's central arena. Hence, what happens to the distribution 
              of power on the Eurasian continent will be of decisive 
              importance to America's global primacy and to America's 
              historical legacy." (p.194)
              "Without sustained and directed American involvement, before 
              long the forces of global disorder could come to dominate the 
              world scene. And the possibility of such a fragmentation is 
              inherent in the geopolitical tensions not only of today's 
              Eurasia but of the world more generally." (p.194)
              "With warning signs on the horizon across Europe and Asia, any 
              successful American policy must focus on Eurasia as a whole 
              and be guided by a Geostrategic design." (p.197)
              "That puts a premium on maneuver and manipulation in order to 
              prevent the emergence of a hostile coalition that could 
              eventually seek to challenge America's primacy..." (p. 198)
              "The most immediate task is to make certain that no state or 
              combination of states gains the capacity to expel the United 
              States from Eurasia or even to diminish significantly its 
              decisive arbitration role." (p. 198)
              "In the long run, global politics are bound to become 
              increasingly uncongenial to the concentration of hegemonic 
              power in the hands of a single state. Hence, America is not 
              only the first, as well as the only, truly global superpower, 
              but it is also likely to be the very last." (p.209)
              "Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multi-cultural 
              society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus 
              on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstance of a 
              truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat." 
              (p. 211)
              The Horror - And Comments From Someone Who Worked With 
              Brzezinski
              Brzezinski's book is sublimely arrogant. While singing the 
              praises of the IMF and the World Bank, which have economically 
              terrorized nations on every continent, and while totally 
              ignoring the worldwide terrorist actions of the U.S. 
              government that have led to genocide; cluster bombings of 
              civilian populations from Kosovo, to Laos, to Iraq, to 
              Afghanistan; the development and battlefield use of both 
              biological and chemical agents such as Sarin gas; and the 
              financial rape of entire cultures, it would leave the reader 
              believing that such actions are for the good of mankind.
              While seconded from the German defense ministry to NATO in the 
              late 1970s, Dr. Johannes Koeppl traveled to Washington on more 
              than one occasion. He also met with Brzezinski in the White 
              House on more than one occasion. His other Washington contacts 
              included Steve Larabee from the CFR, John J. McCloy, former 
              CIA Director, economist Milton Friedman, and officials from 
              Carter's Office of Management and Budget. He is the first 
              person I have ever interviewed who has made a direct 
              presentation at a Bilderberger conference and he has also made 
              numerous presentations to sub-groups of the Trilateral 
              Commission. That was before he spoke out against them.
              His fall was rapid after he realized that Brzezinski was part 
              of a group intending to impose a world dictatorship. "In 
              1983/4 I warned of a take-over of world governments being 
              orchestrated by these people. There was an obvious plan to 
              subvert true democracies and selected leaders were not being 
              chosen based upon character but upon their loyalty to an 
              economic system run by the elites and dedicated to preserving 
              their power.
              "All we have now are pseudo-democracies."
              Koeppl recalls meeting U.S. Congressman Larry McDonald in 
              Nuremburg in the early 80s. McDonald, who was then 
              contemplating a run for the Presidency, was a severe critic of 
              these elites. He was killed in the Russian shootdown of Korean 
              Air flight 007 in 1985. Koeppl believes that it might have 
              been an assassination. Over the years many writers have made 
              these allegations about 007 and the fact that someone with 
              Koeppl's credentials believes that an entire plane full of 
              passengers would be destroyed to eliminate one man offers a 
              chilling opinion of the value placed on human life by the 
              powers that be.
              In 1983, Koeppl warned, through Op-Ed pieces published in 
              NEWSWEEK and elsewhere, that Brzezinski and the CFR were part 
              of an effort to impose a global dictatorship. His fall from 
              grace was swift. "It was a criminal society that I was dealing 
              with. It was not possible to publish anymore in the so-called 
              respected publications. My 30 year career in politics ended.
              "The people of the western world have been trained to be good 
              consumers; to focus on money, sports cars, beauty, consumer 
              goods. They have not been trained to look for character in 
              people. Therefore what we need is education for politicians, a 
              form of training that instills in them a higher sense of 
              ethics than service to money. There is no training now for 
              world leaders. This is a shame because of the responsibility 
              that leaders hold to benefit all mankind rather than to 
              blindly pursue destructive paths.
              "We also need education for citizens to be more efficient in 
              their democracies, in addition to education for politicians 
              that will create a new network of elites based upon character 
              and social intelligence."
              Koeppl, who wrote his 1989 doctoral thesis on NATO management, 
              also authored a 1989 book - largely ignored because of its 
              controversial revelations - entitled "The Most Important 
              Secrets in the World." He maintains a German language web site 
              at [url]www.antaris.com[/url] and he can be reached by email at 
              [email]jbk@antaris.com[/email]. 
              As to the present conflict Koeppl expressed the gravest 
              concerns, "This is more than a war against terrorism. This is 
              a war against the citizens of all countries. The current 
              elites are creating so much fear that people don't know how to 
              respond. But they must remember. This is a move to implement a 
              world dictatorship within the next five years. There may not 
              be another chance."
              end
#414973Post 2 of 17

Re: a war in the planning for four years !

Cliff's Notes anyone?

#414977Post 3 of 17

Re: a war in the planning for four years !

Wow that is a pretty long post there. But it is all a bunch of shit.

#427422Post 4 of 17

Re: a war in the planning for four years !

[quote=Jenks]Cliff's Notes anyone?[/quote]

You bet.

  1. In 1992, Paul Wolfowitz wrote a strategic defense planning paper while working in the Pentagon. It basically said that the US was now an Empire and should (more or less) take over the world (strategically) while their is no other superpower to stop us.

  2. In 1998, PNAC (Project for a New American Century) sends a letter to President Clinton, urging him to invade Iraq, to control oil reserves (among other things). Members of PNAC, and signers of this letter include Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Donald Rumsfeld, etc...

  3. It is now widely known that and documented that the US was going to invade Iraq long before 9/11. The Bush administration used 9/11 as a pretext for war in Iraq.

Thats the cliffnotes version. Here are a few resources to check this stuff out.

[url]http://newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm[/url] [url]http://fromthewilderness.com/[/url] [url]http://www.hijackingcatastrophe.org/[/url]

If anyone is interested in watching any vids about this stuff, I can put some in my share.

#427579Post 5 of 17

Re: a war in the planning for four years !

Maybe I believe conspiracy theories too easily but this information has been coming out more and more everyday, all saying the same thing. Look at the list of PNAC members and who happens to be in power now: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century[/url] . Take the following with a grain of salt as its from a conspiracy theorist site but it certianly builds a good case. And something to keep in mind before ruling it 'just another conspiracy theory'- Watergate was also initially a conspiracy theory.

BTW here's a site which put together a 9/11 timeline using news stories, it dates from 1979 to present day events related to 9/11. They claim to not use slanted sources, and lay out their criteria on the site. [url]http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline[/url]

[quote]Wargames Were Cover For the Operational Execution of 9/11

Alex Jones & Paul Joseph Watson | Updated September 20 2004

UPDATE: Alex Jones Discusses 9/11 Wargames in April 2004 Video

For almost three years since 9/11 independent researchers have stockpiled individual smoking guns which prove that the official version of events was not only a lie but operationally impossible.

However, no single smoking gun has yet been forwarded to explain why air defenses categorically reversed Standard Operating Procedure and failed to respond to hijacked jetliners.

Until now. More and more individuals are looking at the facts and highlighting exercise drills that took place on the morning of 9/11.

It is clear that at least five if not six training exercises were in operation in the days leading up to and on the morning of 9/11. This meant that NORAD radar screens showed as many as 22 hijacked airliners at the same time. NORAD had been briefed that this was part of the exercise drill and therefore normal reactive procedure was forestalled and delayed.

The large numbers of 'blips' on NORAD screens that displayed both real and 'drill' hijacked planes explain why confused press reports emerged hours after the attack stating that up to eight planes had been hijacked. Click here for that article.

The drill scenario also explains a comment made by air traffic control personnel which was featured in a July 2004 BBC television report. Click here for that video clip and article. The controller is told that a hijacked airliner is heading for New York and responds by saying, "is this real world or an exercise?"

Alex Jones was one of the first to highlight the wargames in his documentary film 'Masters of Terror', which was released in August 2002. Click here to watch a video clip. Alex explains why the Associated Press later had to admit the fact that the CIA were running drills of crashing planes into buildings on the morning of 9/11.

What were the drills called and what was their nature?

  1. OPERATION NORTHERN VIGILANCE: This was planned months in advance of 9/11 and ensured that on the morning of 9/11, jet fighters were removed from patrolling the US east coast and sent to Alaska and Canada, therefore reducing the amount of fighter planes available to protect the east coast.

  2. BIOWARFARE EXERCISE TRIPOD II: Alex Jones first reported on this back in May when Rudolph Giuliani let the details of it slip in his testimony to the 9/11 Commission. FEMA arrived in New York on September 10th to set up a command post located at Pier 29 under the auspices of a 'biowarfare exercise scheduled for September 12. This explains why Tom Kenney of FEMA's National Urban Search and Rescue Team, told Dan Rather of CBS News that FEMA had arrived in New York on the night of September 10th. This was originally dismissed as a slip of the tongue. Giuliani was to use this post as a command post on 9/11 after he evacuated WTC Building 7. As we reported back in January, Giuliani knew when to leave WTC 7 because he got advanced warning that the Trade Towers were about to collapse. "We were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was gonna collapse," Rudolph Giuliani told Peter Jennings of ABC News. How did Giuliani know the towers were about to collapse when no steel building in history had previously collapsed from fire damage?

  3. OPERATION VIGILANT GUARDIAN: This exercise simulated hijacked planes in the north eastern sector and started to coincide with 9/11. Lt. Col. Dawne Deskins, NORAD unit's airborne control and warning officer, was overseeing the exercise. At 8:40am she took a call from Boston Center which said it had a hijacked airliner. Her first words, as quoted by Newhouse News Service were, "It must be part of the exercise." This is another example of how the numerous drills on the morning of 9/11 deliberately distracted NORAD so that the real hijacked planes couldn't be intercepted in time.

  4. OPERATION NORTHERN GUARDIAN: The details of this exercise are still scant but it is considered to be part of Vigilant Guardian, relating to simulating hijacked planes in the north eastern sector.

  5. OPERATION VIGILANT WARRIOR: This was referenced in Richard Clarke's book 'Against All Enemies'. It is thought to have been the 'attack' component of the Vigilant Guardian exercise.

Another example of how air defenses were purposefully kept preoccupied so they couldn't protect New York was reported by this website in December of 2003. The Air National Guard's 177th Fighter Wing, based at Atlantic City International Airport in Pomona, were just eight minutes away from New York and could have intercepted both Flight 11 and Flight 175.

Under NORAD procedures that date to the Cold War, two F-16 fighters from the 177th were parked around the clock on the Atlantic City runway. Pilots waited in a nearby building, ready to scramble.

But on the morning of 9/11, the F-16's were performing bombing runs over an empty stretch of the Pine Barrens near Atlantic City after being decommissioned from their usual role of protecting the skies of the east coast.

It was only after both trade towers were hit that the two F-16s landed and were refitted with air-to-air missiles, then sent aloft.

Now that we have established how NORAD were confused, delayed and distracted by the numerous wargames, the next question to ask is who if anyone was aware of which planes were 'real world' and which planes were 'exercise'? The answer to this question will provide us with the name of the individual who ran the operatonal execution of the 9/11 attack.

Dick Cheney.

Cheney was initially taken by the secret service to an underground bunker in the White House called the Presidential Emergency Operations Center.

From there, according to CNN, Cheney directed the US government's response to the unfolding attack.

Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta was in the Presidential Emergency Operating Center with Vice President Cheney as Flight 77 approached Washington, D.C. On May 23, 2003 in front of the 9/11 Commission, Secretary Mineta testified:

"During the time that the airplane was coming in to the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President, "The plane is 50 miles out." "The plane is 30 miles out." And when it got down to "the plane is 10 miles out," the young man also said to the Vice President, "Do the orders still stand?" And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said, "Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?"

As the plane in question hit the Pentagon, what else can we conclude but that the 'order' was not to shoot down the aircraft and to let it find its target.

Mineta stated that he did not know what the 'order' was because he wasn't there when it was made.

After the Pentagon was hit, Cheney was transfered to another bunker in what the Philadelphia Daily News describes as 'the underground Pentagon'.

Site R, a highly secure complex of buildings inside Raven Rock Mountain near Blue Ridge Summit, Pa., close to the Maryland-Pennsylvania state line and about seven miles north of Camp David, is a 53-year-old facility conceived at the start of the Cold War as an alternate command center in the event of nuclear war or an attack on Washington.

The bunker is built into a mountain hillside and is virtually camouflaged to the naked eye. The location betrays itself by the vast gaggle of satellites, microwave towers and antennae that festoon the perimeter. Inside the facility there are computer filled caverns and communication and tracking technology that would put a James Bond movie to shame.

The entire facility is guarded by heavily armed military police.

Within hours of 9/11 unfolding, five choppers had landed on the facility's helipad and top officials such as Paul Wolfowitz were ushered in to join Cheney in the command bunker.

Site R - also known as Raven Rock or the Alternate Joint Communications Center is from where vice-President Dick Cheney ran the aftermath of the 9/11 attack. Cheney's command superceded the orders of the Pentagon, the FAA or the White House. He is the number one suspect in the murder of nearly 3,000 innocent people.

In May of 2001, by presidential order, Cheney was handed direct control of all wargame and drill operations. This meant he was solely in charge of the overlapping NORAD drills and wargames on the morning of 9/11, that prevented Standard Operating Procedure from being implemented, and any of the hijacked planes being intercepted.

The smoking guns of 9/11 are no longer disparate jigsaw pieces that serve to just raise more questions than they answer. We now have a coherent and plausible explanation of how the events unfolded, why there was no air defense response, and a prime suspect as to who executed these actions. The facts fit this version of events.

The 9/11 truth movement has just taken a giant leap towards dismantling the lies of September 11and finally offering justice for those who lost their lives on that terrible day.

-------------------------[/quote] [url]http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2004/080904wargamescover.htm[/url]

#427582Post 6 of 17

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why do i not belive a word of that article. seriously doubt that Dick Cheney was responsible. i bet the Witches of Salem were really witches if i ally myself with anything that moron wrote about

#427592Post 7 of 17

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Gravity is just a theory. Does that make it untrue?

These so called "conspiracy theories" about PNAC and 9/11 are not from the Drudge report, or some other gossip site. In fact, all of the information about how and why we are where we are is public domain, usually in government documents.

The only question is whether the "liberal media" is going to report on it or not. After all, there are so many important things happening right now- Michael Jackson, Run-a-way bride, Terry Schiavo, etc...

Anybody else curious as to how we just cant seem to catch Bin-Laden? Its been almost 4 years now.

#427805Post 8 of 17

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[quote=thesightless]why do i not belive a word of that article. seriously doubt that Dick Cheney was responsible. i bet the Witches of Salem were really witches if i ally myself with anything that moron wrote about[/quote]

One of my ex-military co-workers I sent this article said the same thing, saying things like "NORAD wouldn't do that", so I did a quick search and found the operation ON NORAD's OWN SITE. The operations listed in the article are real and documentated. The only thing you can ignore is the speculation, since it is just that. PNAC is real and on their own site still lists their objectives. Members and founders (Cheney, Rumsfeld) of PNAC are in high ranking positions in our government.

Here's a link to a link to an open letter from PNAC to Clinton, from their own site from 1998: [url]http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm[/url] . It states "to protect our vital interests in the Gulf" It even outright states oil.

The statement behind closed doors about the plane being x minutes out, is testimony from the 9/11 comission hearings. Speculation aside, what part [i]can't[/i] you believe?

Maybe you should head over to cooperativeresearch.org and see the story their timeline paints. No speculaton there just factual timeline events as reported by news sources. There is just way too many coincedences for them to be just that.

#428760Post 9 of 17

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the sad part is that this is all too late.

two words: fait accompli.

and, to their advantage, the big wigs in charge knew this and capitalized on it. most americans don't question authority, they believe the news--if they even read it. now the damage is done; the effects are nearly irreversible.

propaganda is key. never underestimate the stupidity of the general public.

#439145Post 10 of 17

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well said.... but that doesn't mean we should stop talking about this to make people aware.

it's just amazing....most people, at this point, acknowledge that they were lied to....but are too laxy or preoccupied with tom cruise to actually do something about it.

#439178Post 11 of 17

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[quote=face]propaganda is key. never underestimate the stupidity of the general public.[/quote]

evidenced by will smith movies actually doing well.

#464540Post 12 of 17

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bump

#464568Post 13 of 17

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Well-known neo-con philosophy... what's new?

#464615Post 14 of 17

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I'll be in the underground resistance movement if anybody is looking for me...

I don't really believe all I hear, but I am very confident that the PNAC group is indeed pushing an agenda which is meant to secure the US's geostrategical interests in a very agressive way. It would not surprise me if the 9/11 attacks were part of it, but if they weren't they sure have been put to good use by those 'hawks'.

And Face, the general public is indeed stupid. Rule #1 in the handbook of a politician...

I wish I could leave this godforsaken planet and go live somewhere else with a group of people likewise-minded, but since that is not a real option, I'll settle for leaving my shitty ass-licking country, travelling the globe, helping some people making a better life for themselves and get fucking rich in the meantime so NO-ONE will tell me that to do. I wanna be independent and be able to shit on anyone trying to tell me what to do. Not sure if it will happen but the prospects are still reasonably good...

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Taken from one of the links Robprunzit provided on the China-Russia tag teaming:

[quote]'Hegemony'

Since NATO's war in the Balkans, and more so since 9/11, Russia and China have frequently spoken against U.S. "hegemony," most recently when the countries' leaders in a joint declaration last month criticized any attempt to "monopolize and dominate international affairs."

"Politically, [the exercise] highlights a closer relationship between China and Russia, two great powers who are not happy with U.S. hegemony," Yang said.

"Militarily, we are going to see more cooperation between a former superpower and a rising power."

Yang said a direct consequence was being seen in the growth of Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), a grouping of Russia, China and four Central Asian nations. At a recent summit, it called on the U.S. to set a timetable for withdrawing its troops from Central Asia, and SCO member Uzbekistan has since given the U.S. notice to vacate a strategic airbase there.

Shearman believes the wargames are intended to send a message to the U.S. that "there are other alternatives out there," particularly given the unease about the presence of U.S. forces close to Russian and Chinese territory and interests in Central Asia.

Since the Soviet Union's collapse, he said, Russia has been "looking for a new role in the world."

"If you look at the discourse, both in Moscow and Beijing, they both share a similar anti-hegemony [position]. They talk about the balance of power, they're concerned about the quantity and the use of American power in the post-1989, post-9/11 period."

Shearman recalled that former Russian prime and foreign minister Yevgeny Primakov during the 1990s promoted the notion of a Russia-China-India "strategic triangle."

"Nothing happened at the time, but it demonstrated Russian and Chinese concern about the unipolar nature of the international system."[/quote]

They ain't blind, so it seems... :D

#468471Post 15 of 17

[quote]As FTW has documented in previous stories, major deployments of U.S. and British forces had taken place before the attacks[/quote] With the British? Good luck on that one

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#468540Post 16 of 17

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ROFLMAO

that is incredibly funny...not being able to find the target @ 700 yards in plain sight, hahahahahaha!!!

#472021Post 17 of 17

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The part I don't understand about our government's bid for world domination is that they are doing a really crappy job. We can't control Iraq and as our economy is sliding down the shitter, Russia and China are booming. We are speading ourselves way to thin to even maintain our current position, never mind speading out to cover more ground. The PNAC gang is vasty underrating the power of our opposition (an opposition which, by the way, they have created), NOT a good way to go into battle.

I would think that with a goal as lofty as world domination, you'd at least try to have your shit together before attempting it. :?

As far as I can tell, the only front on which they are succeding is here, in snowjobbing the American public into allowing as much of this to happen as they have.

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