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AMERICA SEES FARENHEIGHT 911 - The Response

25 durable postsStarted 2004-06-26Latest 2004-06-28
#1465Post 1 of 25

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[i]"We just came back from the ARCLIGHT in Hollywood and the reception was fantastic! I even got my republican father a ticket to see the movie in Orange County. Needless to say after he saw the movie he now plans to vote against the Bush. He has voted Republican since Nixon."--R.S.

"We were thrilled when Rave Motion Pictures in Montgomery advertised that they would be showing it 6 times a day. My friends and I rushed to the theater to find crowds, camera crews and some disgruntled onlookers. The theater was packed, and the filmed received an uninterrupted 5-minute standing ovation at its conclusion. What a phenomenal piece of work--Michael Moore is a genius who might finally save this country from itself."--E.G.

"Turnout was phenomenal. They were showing the film every hour on the hour in two different theaters, and were still selling out. Right before the movie the ushers came in and explained to everyone that the show would likely sell out and requested that everyone give up any unsaved seats. The place went absolutely nuts when they announced the show was going to sell out. After the announcement, everyone sort of got up in unison and consoldiated themselves into the center seats, leaving the edge seats open for latecomers. It was the sort of courtesy I'm not accustomed to seeing in theaters. The film closed to a standing ovation. While I'm certain it didn't last as long as the ovation at cannes, the fact remains that I've NEVER seen a movie received like that."--S.D.

Fahrenheit sold out in advance with people lining up an hour and a half in advance to get good seats. Nearby theaters were apparantly also all sold out. "The applause during the film and afterwards warranted the 95 minute wait to get in the door. Bravo. This is the most patriotic film I have ever seen." --A.G.

"I'm in the middle of studying for the bar exam but there was no way in hell I was missing opening day. I went to a 4pm show at one theater only to find a line wrapped about the the building and into the parking lot. Hauled ass all the way across town and made it to another showing - full house, standing ovation. Fresno, CA is LOVING this film!"--P.C.

"Luckily I was on business in Tampa this week to catch the opening. I went to the first show. Let me tell you...the theater brought in extra police in case of trouble, I thought that was odd...but a good indicator of the power of the film. Everyone was laughing outloud and cheering, it was the most interactive film experience I have ever seen. A standing ovation at a movie theater...not at all what I was expecting !!"--B.G., USMC

"I woke up early to catch the first viewing here in Melbourne, FL at 11am. The packed theater cheered and clapped throughout the movie. So much of this I never knew or barely new anything about, thank you again. I personally was overwhelmed with emotions and moved by this that on my way out I stopped and bought three more tickets for the 4pm viewing and went home and called my parents and tried to talk them into going to see it with me at 4pm. My mother agreed to go (who yesterday the 24th told me she wasn't sure who she was voting for anymore) ... she came out of saying there was no way she would ever vote for Bush in November."--D.T.

"There was tremendous positive response not only at the end but throughout the picture. There was even a prolonged standing ovation that continued to the end of the credits. Also I dont think there was a a dry eye in the house."--C.D.

"I have been to other movies on their first night showings in Evansville, Indiana before, but I have NEVER seen it PACK a theater before! There were NO seats empty at the 6:50 showing, and the line for the 10:00 show was outside the theater. You would have been proud. The crowd cheered at the end of the MOVIE! I did not believe my ears." --W.E.

"I sat in a packed theater that was packed with wealthy people from all over the eastside of Rochester, NY. This rich, conservative, white audience broke into applause several times during the screening. Thunderous applause rose up at the end. I WAS AMAZED. We walked out, quietly, but excited about what to do next. We were greeted by lines of people crushing in to see the next show. Something wonderful in happening here."--C.C.

"I went to AMC Easton in Columbus, OH, and after getting in the movie i saw a thing that i never, but never saw before in my entire life, and belive me, i go to movies a lot, i mean a lot, almost every week. Police officers were inside the room where the movie was going to be shown, i don't really know the reason why. Almost all the seats where taken and i never saw such a commotion with a movie, it was more like a follow through, applause were given at almost every sentence spoken, and sometimes scenes just made your hair stand up."--G.L.

"Living in Houston, heart of "BUSH Country", my whole family, including in-laws piled into 3 cars and went to the opening to support Fahrenheit 911. We were surprised to find the showing sold out at the first theatre, but managed to find seats at the second we tried. We LOVED the movie, which gave us real hope that freedom and democracy will return to this Great Country in November. The audience gave a long ovation at the end."--J.P. [/i]

#210173Post 2 of 25

Shit, I'm scared of what the lines will be like when I go see it tonight :P

#210197Post 3 of 25

hmm, from those reactions it seems there is no critism, what about that? I cant wait till it shows in Holland

#210233Post 4 of 25

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: @ the captions.....

Give me a break..... :roll:

Is this supposed to change the fact that it's a twisted propoganda piece?

#210380Post 5 of 25

Actually it is a very moving film, much better than Bowling For Columbine IMHO. Some of the most convincing moments were NOT from things Moore said. Cosmo, your comments hold no worth since you haven't seen the movie yet to prove what you say. Moore doesn't need to make a film to show how Bush's administration is corrupt, but obviously you have kept a blind eye and deaf ear to that.

#210397Post 6 of 25

I'm sure it's worth a view...I'll hopefully go sometime soon to see it.

At the bare minimum, it'll actually wake up some people like it did in some of the above examples.

Furthermore, I know it's been debated about how twisted some of the movie may be propaganda-wise, but my hope is that when people get awakened by this film, they actually go out and start doing a little more R&R...and keep themselves a bit more informed as to what's going on these days.

#210416Post 7 of 25

I think the irony of it is that the people who think he's twisting facts are the ones who haven't seen the movie to prove it...

#210477Post 8 of 25

Ok, now post some negative reviews. I noticed those were mysteriously missing.

"Needless to say after he saw the movie he now plans to vote against the Bush. He has voted Republican since Nixon."

"... she came out of saying there was no way she would ever vote for Bush in November."

I think these remarks are especially sad. Mothers and fathers (most likely grandmothers and fathers) letting one person's slanted view affect their decision on who they want to run their country. This country is definetely in a sorry state when one person's agenda overrides anothers ability to think for themselves.

Mission accomplished Mr. Moore.

#210526Post 9 of 25

You can go over to the other thread, the one I started about Moore, and see that I disagree with Bush on more things then I agree with him on.

And to be honest, I would vote against Bush too, but look at the other choice we have.

I'm willing to give Bush another 4 years to continue what he started and hopefully do something as a whole against terrorism. Besdies, I can't let someone like Kerry take his place if I honestly feel he would screw things up worse then they already are.

Maybe I should vote for Nader. :ROFLMAO:

I agree with what evangelion said. Its sad that Moore can get people to vote for Kerry, even if Bush isn't the greatest choice. Kerry has no ideals people, he has no stance, he can't even walk.

I'm still not going to vote, and Bush is still going to win. So.....

PS - yes I have seen this movie, no I did not pay to see it. The picture of people standing in a line for it just crack me up. Star Wars maybe. Moore, :CrackUp: Those people are frickin insane.

PPS - Lesser of two evils people, thats what this is. Lesser of two evils.

#210532Post 10 of 25

[quote=evangelion]Ok, now post some negative reviews. I noticed those were mysteriously missing.

"Needless to say after he saw the movie he now plans to vote against the Bush. He has voted Republican since Nixon."

"... she came out of saying there was no way she would ever vote for Bush in November."

I think these remarks are especially sad. Mothers and fathers (most likely grandmothers and fathers) letting one person's slanted view affect their decision on who they want to run their country. This country is definetely in a sorry state when one person's agenda overrides anothers ability to think for themselves.

Mission accomplished Mr. Moore.[/quote]

Lead and the herd will follow.

Welcome to America.

#210546Post 11 of 25

[quote=evangelion]Ok, now post some negative reviews. I noticed those were mysteriously missing.

"Needless to say after he saw the movie he now plans to vote against the Bush. He has voted Republican since Nixon."

"... she came out of saying there was no way she would ever vote for Bush in November."

I think these remarks are especially sad. Mothers and fathers (most likely grandmothers and fathers) letting one person's slanted view affect their decision on who they want to run their country. This country is definetely in a sorry state when one person's agenda overrides anothers ability to think for themselves.

Mission accomplished Mr. Moore.[/quote]

One thing this movie did even moreso than an attack on Bush was a criticism of how Americans do not see what really happens in Iraq. All we hear from the media each day is that x number of American soldiers/marines/whatever died. What about Iraqi civilians? This movie showed how and why Iraqis want us out of there now. And it did not take any of Moore's slanted views to show it because it is the truth that we are hurting them although it appears we are trying to help them.

The same goes with the woman who, ironically, was interviewed both before her son was sent to Iraq and after she found out that he was killed. You can't make stuff up like that or denounce that it ever occurred. Once again Moore couldn't twist that story because that is truth. However, with the media today, we don't see personal reactions to the deaths of troops in Iraq, so most people don't take it with such emotion.

Oh, and about your comment about one person's agenda taking preference to others: Isn't that what Bush is doing? Isn't he trying to make us afraid with his stupid color spectrum of terrorism alerts just to keep us on our feet and stick behind him this whole time? Bush obviously had an "agenda," but unlike Moore's it didn't kill thousands of people.

#210569Post 12 of 25

[quote=Galapidate][quote=evangelion]Ok, now post some negative reviews. I noticed those were mysteriously missing.

"Needless to say after he saw the movie he now plans to vote against the Bush. He has voted Republican since Nixon."

"... she came out of saying there was no way she would ever vote for Bush in November."

I think these remarks are especially sad. Mothers and fathers (most likely grandmothers and fathers) letting one person's slanted view affect their decision on who they want to run their country. This country is definetely in a sorry state when one person's agenda overrides anothers ability to think for themselves.

Mission accomplished Mr. Moore.[/quote]

One thing this movie did even moreso than an attack on Bush was a criticism of how Americans do not see what really happens in Iraq. All we hear from the media each day is that x number of American soldiers/marines/whatever died. What about Iraqi civilians? This movie showed how and why Iraqis want us out of there now. And it did not take any of Moore's slanted views to show it because it is the truth that we are hurting them although it appears we are trying to help them.

The same goes with the woman who, ironically, was interviewed both before her son was sent to Iraq and after she found out that he was killed. You can't make stuff up like that or denounce that it ever occurred. Once again Moore couldn't twist that story because that is truth. However, with the media today, we don't see personal reactions to the deaths of troops in Iraq, so most people don't take it with such emotion.

Oh, and about your comment about one person's agenda taking preference to others: Isn't that what Bush is doing? Isn't he trying to make us afraid with his stupid color spectrum of terrorism alerts just to keep us on our feet and stick behind him this whole time? Bush obviously had an "agenda," but unlike Moore's it didn't kill thousands of people.[/quote]

Millions dead in WWII alone, including women and children. Most people think ending that was a just cause. Freedom is not free, it may sound clique or whatever but it is true. My grandfather took a bullet trying to further freedom. If it was so simple it wouldn't mean so much.

So many people these days want to act like its something new that Americans and others are dying in a war. Its what we have been doing for thousands of years. Its an integral part of humanity and it will never go away. This is just the newest version. All you can hope for is that something good comes from it.

Does Michael Moore really think he is going to change the course of things. Kerry gets elected, Iraq is still a mess and everything is just like it was. Nice job. Like Tyler Durden said "polishing the brass on the Titanic."

#210580Post 13 of 25

[quote=Galapidate] What about Iraqi civilians? This movie showed how and why Iraqis want us out of there now. And it did not take any of Moore's slanted views to show it because it is the truth that we are hurting them although it appears we are trying to help them.

The same goes with the woman who, ironically, was interviewed both before her son was sent to Iraq and after she found out that he was killed. You can't make stuff up like that or denounce that it ever occurred. Once again Moore couldn't twist that story because that is truth. However, with the media today, we don't see personal reactions to the deaths of troops in Iraq, so most people don't take it with such emotion. [/quote]

:roll: You have made a complete clown out of yourself over the course of the last week or so. I told you straight up on Mercuryserver 1 that Moore was going to make the war on terror look like a bad thing and i even restated on MS2 how he was going to do it too......and you still fell for it. The people who were once in danger are now safe (people in torture chambers, Kurds, Shiites) and the people who were once safe are now in danger because the terrorists and Baathists that left them alone for so long are still living amongst them and must be eliminated. Things are not better or worse, they are different, the people who are now suffering are throwing fits and the people who are free are minding their own business. We waged this war in order to change the balance of power and eventually free all Iraqis......of course things look bad now. Terrorists are running around blowing everyone up.....its war....what do you want? Before the war the voices of the suffering were kept silent and out of view, but now that the media is there everyone with a toothache or worse makes the news if it has to do with the U.S. military.

Secondly, emotional mood swings don't equal truth......a mother who is supportive before the war then changes her mind after her sons death is natural. Why do you think they made sure they found a woman.......cuz more likely than not a man ain't gonna bawl for an hour during the interview. Secondly, there are just as many people or more who are willing to accept that family members died in the conflict while trying to keep America safe and change the political tyranny of the Middle East. No doubt, their voices weren't heard. What Michael Moore did was show you one small side of an issue by telling a story.....thats called anecdotal evidence.....it is exalted primarily by idiots or by people trying to persuade them. Try using anecdotal evidence in a court room, unless its the closing argument, you'll get laughed right out of court. Proof?! HAH!

Politics is a battle for the heart and mind of the average idiot. Both parties have intelligent constituencies with differences in ideology (the people who agree to disagree). Politicians don't argue to prove or disprove one another...... they are smart enought to know that is impossible in a world of many ideals. Politicians argue to swing the rest of America--a nation of 80% open minded swing voters aka idiots. They have no opinon on anything which is why politicians have found it so easy to sway them with stupid little stories called anecdotes. I can't remeber the last time i heard a state of the union address without one. Michael Moore is the king of anecdotes, and he tells them with TV, which makes them even more powerful.

So now after seeing fahrenheit 911 you believe that leaving terrorists alone so they can ravage entire regions.....while organizing the occasional hit on our shores is acceptable, but your fear and anger towards terrorists has now been redirected to another man/ institution that has never meant you any harm.:Bingo:

So now that i have blown the cover off this stupid conspiracy for my own political purposes, you can't trust me.....and consequently you can't trust Moore either. Soooooo who are you going to turn to? :unsure: How about looking inside for a change? Use the rational brain you were given (the only thing that differentiates us from animals) and go find some answers in other places than your local AMC.

#210622Post 14 of 25

I am not "falling" for Moore's stuff, in fact I am still a bit skeptical about the whole Bush/Saudi royal family relation segment of the film. However, you can't deny that war is a terrible thing and that we killed thousands of Iraqi civilians needlessly and nobody seems to give a shit. Our original goal after 9/11 was to attack the people who plotted 9/11 and killed 3000 of our citizens, and we knew that al Qaeda did it. Bush got support with going into Afghanistan, but when it came to Iraq the rest of the world would not help at all. The rest of the world saw through the bullshit with the terror alerts used to keep us on our toes for the past couple years. I don't know if it's that Americans are naturally belligerent or stupid that they agreed to back Bush when he wanted to go to Iraq. Saddam posed NO threat to us and fighting in Iraq is NOT for our freedom, but rather for the Iraqis. I don't see anything wrong with going to free a group of people, but under the weak justification (WMDs) we had and the lack of world support it was not a good idea in the first place. And now, after a little over a year of guerrilla attacks and three days until we turn over sovereignty, there is little hope in stability ever arriving in Iraq. I'm sorry, but I think Iraq was much more stable with Saddam. Although he did commit many atrocities to his people, the whole country was not in anarchy like it is now and we weren't losing troops almost every day.

#210735Post 15 of 25

[quote=Galapidate] I'm sorry, but I think Iraq was much more stable with Saddam. Although he did commit many atrocities to his people, the whole country was not in anarchy like it is now and we weren't losing troops almost every day.[/quote]

I know exactly why you think that and i'm not willing to respect it. Saddam posed less of a threat to America [b]as long as U.N. sanctions were choking his already tortured subjects.[/b] U.N. sanctions crippled Iraqi commerce and limited their only source of wealth (oil). Before we started maiming the Iraqi people to avoid having to kill Saddam, Saddam ran around unchecked in the region. He started a war with Iran, he built WMD to destroy Israel and Middle Eastern nations that might be friendly to the U.S. (Jordan), and he attacked Kuwait unprovoked thus sentencing tens/hundreds of thousands of his troops to death simply so he could have more Texas Tea. And when he sent his troops into Kuwait we were more than happy to kill them and to leave Saddam alone. Imagine if during WWII the Allies had defeated the Wehrmacht and then just left Hitler to chill out in his chalet because we didn't want to fight and we were afraid that a new leader would be worse. That's pretty much what happened in GWI.

A lot of the Middle East is happy to have him gone because he was powerful and fickle. Iran hated him, Saudi Arabia hated him, Kuwait hated him, and so did Jordan. There has only been condemnation for the U.S. entering the region because many Arab governments know their citizens believe we will never leave, even after the conflict is over......they truly do believe, as some liberals believe, that President Bush's only ambition is to take over the world.

#210829Post 16 of 25

Yet another lame thread about this shithead. :FuckOff: Ray Bradbury is pretty pissed about Mooron using the "Farengheit" moniker without his permission:

[url]http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38776[/url]

#210905Post 17 of 25

^People parody names of things all the time without a problem. How is this any different?

#210960Post 18 of 25

[quote] why Iraqis want us out of there now.[/quote]

How can you even suggest such a thing? The majority of Iraqi's are helping us build their country into something they've always wished. Ordinary Iraqis welcome our troops with open arms, the majority of the time pledging their help with the upcoming tasks. Their universities are open to ALL people. There is religious tolerance. Individual freedom. What you see in the news and in Moore's movie is not the whole story. I've heard it from the Iraqi people themselves. The majority of the ministers in Iraq do not like us occupying their country, but they've said themselves, they need us to protect them at the moment because they know what's at stake.

It's obvious what Moore is trying to do. He doesn't like Bush, and he's willing to twist reality to show people what America is [i]really[/i] all about.

:roll:

#213587Post 19 of 25

my only beef is that moore certainly had to turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to Iraq's past to be able to achieve manipulation on this scale.

Informative and ideologically liberating my ass! He is a pioneer because he is the first man who has made criticizing and disrespecting ideologies part of Hollywood entertainment. In the past even the most audacious news shows had the decency to represent both ideologies; however, staged the platform was [b]in real time or without editing[/b]. Moore on the other hand uses the editing floor to craft encounters between conflicting ideologies into the stories that exist within his mind.

#213589Post 20 of 25

[quote=mylexicon]my only beef is that moore certainly had to turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to Iraq's past to be able to achieve manipulation on this scale.

Informative and ideologically liberating my ass! He is a pioneer because he is the first man who has made criticizing and disrespecting ideologies part of Hollywood entertainment. In the past even the most audacious news shows had the decency to represent both ideologies; however, staged the platform was [b]in real time or without editing[/b]. Moore on the other hand uses the editing floor to craft encounters between conflicting ideologies into the stories that exist within his mind.[/quote]...

I heard Moore speaking to a reporter that we trained 30,000 freedom fighters in middle-america in the 80's. As if it were terrorism.

I couldn't help but asking, weren't we fighting Soviet expansionism at that time Mikey?

It's all about listening to one side of the argument to fuel the hatred against the capitalistic system of America.

He has been asked by Hizbollah and Islamic Jihad to screen his film in the middle-east. That was 2 weeks ago, and he hasn't turned down the offer. He should've rejected the offer first hand.

Im wondering what his answer will be.

#213597Post 21 of 25

^^^I think somebody has a bought the administrations story hook line and sinker.

I do think that the first part of the movie could be a bit of a streach. However inconclusive it may appear, it does look like a lot of the arrows tend to point in certain directions i.e. the chummy relations between the white house and the Saudi's.

A lot of the alogations that Moore made in the film are not new. If you are really concerned with a portions of his arguments, there are many books written on the subjects that the moive covers in far more depth then is possible in a feature film (House of Bush, House of Saud).

I think that the parts of the movie that speak the loudest are the clips from speaches. You might claim that some of these have been edited in a certain way. Fine. However, as a person who has actually seen many of the interviews when they were first broadcasted, I can say they were not taken out of context. It think it was a good reminder to all of us what was said by the administration in the months comming up to the war. Now that the admistration is trying to parse words, and directly contraditing what they have previously said (Cheney - "It has been pretty well confirmed..."), we can see the truth.

Another piece of food for thought. We don't re-elect politicians that admit mistakes. If Bill Clinton would have admitted an affair with Jennifer Flowers, he would not been able to get re-elected. The administration has chosen to keep with the line about the Sadam 9/11 link which has been shown by the 9-11 commision, not to exist. They hope that if you keep repeating a lie, people will believe it.

Ok you can start flaming me now. :)

#213599Post 22 of 25

22 million and #1 at the box office. :HolyShit:

#213600Post 23 of 25

[quote=cosmo] He has been asked by Hizbollah and Islamic Jihad to screen his film in the middle-east. That was 2 weeks ago, and he hasn't turned down the offer. He should've rejected the offer first hand.

Im wondering what his answer will be.[/quote]

God. Liberals keep such wonderful company. :| I guess its time to figure out how big of a patriotic he actually is. If moore goes through with the invitation, he is going to make Sean Penn look like Nathan Hale. :FuckOff:

haha.....on an aside look what google came up with when i searched for Iraq information minister......read the quote on the left :lol: [url]http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/[/url]

[quote]^^^I think somebody has a bought the administrations story hook line and sinker.[/quote] :?: :?: :?: :?: What makes you believe that :?: :?: :?: :?:

#213635Post 24 of 25

[quote=mylexicon] haha.....on an aside look what google came up with when i searched for Iraq information minister......read the quote on the left :lol: [url]http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/[/url] [/quote]

CLASSIC WEB SITE :Naughty: :lol: :lol: :CrackUp:

#213656Post 25 of 25

[b]Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11" made Hollywood history by selling $21.8 million worth of tickets in its first three days, becoming the only documentary ever to outgun all other blockbuster films at the nation's box offices in one weekend. [/b] Theatergoers in the Bay Area gave the anti-President Bush movie one of the most enthusiastic welcomes in the country, according to several local theater owners and film experts.

"It's been absolutely wild. It was like a party atmosphere here at the Grand Lake Theater all weekend," said Allen Michaan, owner of the Oakland theater and the Park Theater in Lafayette, where nearly every showing of "Fahrenheit 9/11" has sold out since the film opened on Friday.

The Grand Lake attracted extra attention from Moore fans after a photograph of the theater's marquee, stating that it would not enforce the film's R rating, was featured on the controversial filmmaker's Web site.

"I want to thank all the right-wing organizations out there who tried to stop the film, either from their harassment campaign that didn't work on the theater owners, or going to the FEC (Federal Election Commission) to get our ads removed from television, to all the things that have been said on television," Moore told the Associated Press. "It's only encouraged more people to go and see it."

Throughout the weekend, vendors sold anti-war and unflattering Bush buttons, posters and bumper stickers while dozens lined up to register to vote outside the Oakland theater.

"I've never seen anything like this in all my years in the movie business. It's such a phenomenon," Michaan said.

Despite hundreds of thousands of people marching through downtown San Francisco for the gay pride parade, the Loews Theatres at the Metreon managed to sell out nearly every showing of "Fahrenheit 9/11" on Sunday, according to the theater's ticket vendors.

"Fahrenheit 9/11" earned more in three days than Moore's Oscar-winning "Bowling for Columbine" did in its entire theater run, according to the film's distributors. "Bowling for Columbine" earned a total of $21.6 million in 2002.

Moore's new film beat out "White Chicks," a Wayans brothers comedy about two black FBI agents who go undercover as white socialites, which finished in second with $19.6 million for the weekend on 2,726 screens. Ben Stiller's "Dodgeball: A True Underdog Story," took third place with $18.7 million on 3,200 screens. By contrast, "Fahrenheit 9/11" was released on only 868 screens.

"These numbers are totally unprecedented for a documentary," said Paul Dergarabedian, president of Exhibitor Relations Co., a box office tracking firm that provided the estimates of ticket sales. "With the instant success of 'Fahrenheit 9/11,' we're entering territory that we've never seen before."

Dergarabedian credits the heavy media attention given to "Fahrenheit 9/11" prior to its release as a major factor for its success.

"Like with 'The Passion of the Christ,' this film has been mentioned in the media nonstop," said Dergarabedian. "So whether you agree with Michael Moore or not, you're probably still going to see his movie just to be informed about what everyone is talking about. And when you get all the people in between interested, that translates to about $20 million."

By comparison, "The Passion of the Christ" earned $117.5 million in its first five days.

Diane Weber Shapiro of Berkeley took her 16-year-old son, Alexander Weber Shapiro, to the Park Theater in Lafayette, which had block-long lines for the first two showings. The Shapiros made the drive specifically to patronize the theater, which also disregarded the R rating.

"Michael Moore films are relevant to me," Alexander Shapiro said. "My friends are definitely talking about it."

The film's unprecedented profits may change attitudes in Hollywood studios and among film distributors, which have traditionally shied away from political provocation, said UC Berkeley Professor Julia Bader, who lectures on British and American literature and film.

"This shows how Hollywood has misjudged the mood of America's film audience and that there is a demand for politically compelling movies. I expect that both the controversy and the profits from 'Fahrenheit 9/11' will finally get their attention," Bader said.

The Walt Disney Co. had refused to let its subsidiary Miramax release "Fahrenheit 9/11," citing its partisan nature. Miramax executives Harvey and Bob Weinstein bought back the film and released it independently with distributors Lions Gate and IFC Films.

"It's beyond anybody's expectations," Harvey Weinstein told the New York Times. "I'd have to say the sky's the limit on this movie. Who knows what territory we're in?"

Chronicle staff writer Peter Hartlaub contributed to this report. E-mail Delfin Vigil at [email]dvigil@sfchronicle.com[/email].

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