It's in the hands of the jury now right?

Wasn't there a recording of the 911 call and there was some semi audible racist remark made by Zimmerman? I saw that report ages ago but the few articles I have been reading lately made no mention of it....maybe I haven't been watching the case closely enough.

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yeah, he said "these fucking punks, the always get away".

The verdict is in as of last night, not guilty. Honestly I didn't think it was going to go any other way. There isn't enough evidence to convict him. Did he act like an asshole? Sure. We will never know how the fight actually went down, and there lies the rub. Hence the not guilty.

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The verdict isn't surprising considering how fucked up the "stand your ground" defense is on it's own merit.

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It's not like Zimmy pooh is gonna live some great life though moving fwd. He provoked a 17 yr old kid and got to pretend to be like his best friend and be a cop.... fucked up to the max

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If you suckle at the teat of MSNBC, sure, he was a raycist. But that's not quite the truth of the matter:

[url="http://www.mediaite.com/online/nbc-news-admits-error-in-editing-george-zimmermans-911-call-apologizes/"]NBC News Admits s 911 Call, Apologizes | Mediaite[/url]

And if someone feels their life is in danger, I guess they should just take the abuse and hope the other party doesn't take it too far.

Finally find myself agreeing with Rez...world's definitely imploding.

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My take is that both Zimmerman and Trayvon in this case were at fault. The bigger issue is like Highsteppa says above, our liberal self defense / stand your ground law in FL. Thanks to the media everyone is afraid of black folk everywhere which is absurd.

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[QUOTE=vinnie97;1095546] And if someone feels their life is in danger[/QUOTE]

The last thing they do is go after said individual and confront them.... Zimmerman looked for a fight that night, got one, and was then forced to resort to use his gun as his "only way out." [I]Uhhh, next time, call the cops and let them do their job. [/I]

Now, if Trayvon had a bag of [I]crack[/I] in his pocket and a wad of $100's.... slightly different story. Or if he'd had a [I]knife[/I], slightly different story....

Hell, I've called the cops on[B] 3[/B] separate occasions on suspicious individuals in my neighborhood over the past year. We've had a lot of break-ins here and I see reporting people who I think are potentially up to no good part of my responsibility as a neighbor and responsible homeowner as well as [U]father[/U].. I also respect strangers enough to let the professionals do their job and determine whether or not they are actual threats or not.[I] At no time[/I], would I follow any of the individuals I reported. [I]at no time [/I]would I approach them with a f'ing GUN.

WHY? [I]Common sense.[/I]

Zimmerman, IMHO looked like a suspicious asshole 2 years ago, with his shaved head and goatee.... his face IMO looked aggressive. Whether or not he is aggressive I'll never know... But I am sure Trayvon felt threatened by Zimmerman and retaliated. That's what 17 year olds do. I was a hot head when I was 17. Had some 27 year old like Zimmerman approached me, I might have gotten in their face as well.

just my $0.02

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That's funny, you're judging him based on his appearance (goatee and shaved head), while I thought you guys were against that kind of profiling (not in the case of skinheads or skinhead wannabes of course). ;) On that point, the inadmissible evidence in the form of more recent photos shows that Trayvon was not the most upstanding of citizens (braggadocious photos where he is blowing weed at the camera or proudly posing with some firearms in hands acting the gangster).

The function of a neighborhood watch is to seek out suspicious activity. The decision George made to approach was obviously not the best one, but that didn't mean he deferred his right to self-defense because of that failure in judgement. He's been absolved by both the local PD and a jury now, but you still want to rake him over the coals for it. Perhaps the civil suits will achieve the "justice" you seek.

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I thought this was pretty good.

[video=youtube_share;bF-Ax5E8EJc]http://youtu.be/bF-Ax5E8EJc[/video]

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^Ya. If that info is true, assuming it is. Then I would absolutely see things differently than stated above :lol:. Trayvon sounds like a whacked out drug attic looking for trouble and who likes to start fights. That's not the info I was given though originally, so just based on what I did know, the picture was painted differently in my mind. I am more than happy to admit to being wrong as well. No problem with that.

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;1095557] Trayvon sounds like a whacked out drug attic looking for trouble and who likes to start fights. [/QUOTE]

that's racist

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:lol:

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What about the case over in Houston (somewhere in Texas) where the disabled guy shot (and killed??) a prostitute he met off some website, who tried to take his money without fucking him.

He got off on a similar defence right?

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what was Zimm charged with ? Murder in 1st and 2nd degree right ? do you think prosecutors made a mistake by going "all in" ? instead of going for a Manslaughter charge ?

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^He wasn't charged with anything, he was found not guilty.

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[QUOTE=Miguel;1095619]what was Zimm charged with ? Murder in 1st and 2nd degree right ? do you think prosecutors made a mistake by going "all in" ? instead of going for a Manslaughter charge ?[/QUOTE]

He was actually charged with 2nd degree murder and manslaughter as a lesser included offense, and yes, I think the prosecution did hurt itself by overreaching with the charges. In essence, if you bring a gun to a fistfight and you start getting your ass kicked and you ramp it up by whipping out a gun and start shooting and someone dies as a result, that's manslaughter in most jurisdictions. Having to argue for murder 2 and the more culpable state of mind that accompanies it is a tough sell on these facts, though, and I think it hurt the prosecution's credibility. If they had just focused upon manslaughter, it makes it a lot easier for the jury to jump on board.

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;1095624]^He wasn't charged with anything, he was found not guilty.[/QUOTE]

He actually WAS charged with murder 2 and manslaughter, but he was acquitted on those charges. Even though he got off, he was indeed charged, which is just one of the first stages of a criminal proceeding.

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[QUOTE=vinnie97;1095546], he was a [B]raycist[/B]. [/QUOTE]

Learn to spell, dumbass. God knows you should know how to spell a word that's applied to you on nearly a daily basis.

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;1095624]^He wasn't charged with anything, he was found not guilty.[/QUOTE]

Zimmerman was charged with Murder in the 2nd Degree. He was found Not Guilty by a jury.

Edit: Oops. I'm late to the party. Replied before seeing rest of the thread.

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That's what I meant.

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[video=youtube;shODnGQJ6FU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=shODnGQJ6FU#at=101[/video]

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^Really this is the best summary of this case I've seen sofar and I really agree with what he is saying 100%.

Zimmerman should have gotten off legally (due to evidence, or lack thereof), but it is a bad situation all around. I really hate the media making a single case like this into a big circus. Why don't they make the overwhelming gang crime that is a major reason why the USA is the #1 gun murder capitol of the civilized world a daily 24x7 story? I'm a liberal but I think it again has to to with the r word.

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and Obama making it 10x worse with his comments. unreal.

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The vid tiddles posted was worth the look.