Prism, it rhymes with jizm.

Discuss.

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now it's coming out that they can listen to phone calls without a warrant? didn't obama go on tv and say they couldn't do that a few days ago....so he lied to the whole country. skip to 1:42

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2SqEShR_Qc"]USA President Barack Obama Press Conference on PRISM and Federal Government Spying on Communication - YouTube[/url]

lol america lol

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Is it a tyranny yet?

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I don't know. I don't participate in that mess. I only keep filing my taxes and foreign income so I can renew my passport:lol:

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[QUOTE=tiddles;1093061]now it's coming out that they can listen to phone calls without a warrant? didn't obama go on tv and say they couldn't do that a few days ago....so he lied to the whole country. skip to 1:42

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2SqEShR_Qc"]USA President Barack Obama Press Conference on PRISM and Federal Government Spying on Communication - YouTube[/URL]

lol america lol[/QUOTE]

The NSA has been monitoring phone calls since the Reagan administration (if not before). It's much more broad today. All of your phone records, health records, & internet/email activity are now stored in a massive database (which was upgraded within the past two years, BTW).

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I think that is obvious enough that yes the Government and it's agencies have been collecting data, spying, espionage what ever you want to call it for a very, very long period. However, I think what scales this to a greater magnitude is coherently related with Obama - it feels as though the people have been duped to believe that the government has not been so intrusive - where they have.

It has obviously built up high enough following the NOTW scandal, and you could expect nothing less from this.

Here's a pretty good article on the fact:

[QUOTE][h=1][SIZE=3]I have watched Barack Obama transform into the security president[/SIZE][/h]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/15/broken-promise-barack-obama[/QUOTE]

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Actually it was going on before even Bush but scaled way up right after 9/11. I've been reading The Shadow Factory actually off and on for about a month before this NSA story broke, and this book was published in 2008 and was talking about all of these type of programs being in place back then. [URL="http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2699739-the-shadow-factory"] The Shadow Factory: The Ultra-Secret NSA from 9/11 to the Eavesdropping on America by James Bamford - Reviews, Discussion, Bookclubs, Lists [/URL]

Clinton passed CALEA which forced telecoms to install equipment letting the feds tap into their infrastructure to assist them with monitoring, and this was way back in 1994.

[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calea[/URL]

Obama has just continued what was put in place (and probably expanded it as new tech becomes available). Also Snowden / The Guardian are walking back / "clarifying" their "direct access" talk. The NSA doesn't have direct access to any data from Google/Apple/Facebook and can't just pull stuff out of thin air when they want it.

[URL="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5891814"]Apple issues customer privacy statement | Hacker News[/URL]

They can and do sniff tons of data that is freely floating around the net unencrypted though for analysis.

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After all these wikileaks and prisms there hasn't been any light shed on 9/11 conspiracies/cover ups has there?

No tin foil hat responses please..not until I am wearing mine.

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I'm really pleased with HK and Russia telling the US to go fuck itself

sup cia

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lol Vlad's comments are great

[url="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/25/edward-snowden-moscow-vladimir-putin"]Putin: NSA whistleblower Snowden is in Moscow airport | World news | The Guardian [/url]

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in communist america, internet browses you

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Topsy-turvy world innit. Time for a new McCarthy.

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^:lol: nice artwork

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hahahaahaha

[URL]http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/27/us-usa-security-ecuador-idUSBRE95Q0L820130627[/URL]

bleh

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[SIZE=2][FONT=ARIAL][B][URL="http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/30/opinion/sunday/germans-loved-obama-now-we-dont-trust-him.html"]We Germans aren't willing to trade in liberty for potentially better security[/URL][/B][/FONT] [/SIZE]

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That was a good read.

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Comments on hackernews state they are complaining about this, but passing almost the very same type of laws themselves while they are so "outraged"...

As Germans feign outrage for the actions of the Five Eyes, specifically the UK and America, they rubber stamp the same style laws that amusingly, went into effect very recently:[URL="http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.zeit.de%2Fdigital%2Fdatenschutz%2F2013-03%2Fbestandsdaten-breyer-bundestag"]http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=...[/URL] Forcing telecoms to keep data available for on demand searches of intensely personal citizens information.

[url="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5967695"]Germans Loved Obama. Now We Don’t Trust Him | Hacker News[/url]

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Ecuador not happy with their embassy being tapped.

Assange furious they weren't tapping his room.

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Argentina and Brasil were spied too. WTF ??

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Everyone spies on everyone....

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Really ?? and what happens if any country of the world spy to United States ?? Thats not gonna be so funny, dont you think ??

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Checkout the history of the Cold War...been going on forever. Just getting easier and in different ways to do now since much of the communications of the world go through chokepoints which are easier to tap than before.

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[B][URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/prism-collection-documents/"]NSA slides explain the PRISM data-collection program [/URL][/B]

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[QUOTE=unkle;1095189]Really ?? and what happens if any country of the world spy to United States ?? Thats not gonna be so funny, dont you think ??[/QUOTE]

Similar story with nuclear weapons..US is only country to ever use them in war, yet the world is a safer place if nobody (except US) has them. Safer if you are sitting on the USA side of the fence anyway....or do what you are told...

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[QUOTE=unkle;1095186]Argentina and Brasil were spied too. WTF ??[/QUOTE]

If I was prime minister of my country, I would fully endorse spying on the following agencies AFA and CBF with regards to their development strategies.

I would even consider hiring double agents for national interests (Passarella, Simeone to name a few) and possible rendition of the following targets (Messi, Riquelme and Veron)

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[QUOTE=nelinho;1095412]If I was prime minister of my country, I would fully endorse spying on the following agencies AFA and CBF with regards to their development strategies.

I would even consider hiring double agents for national interests (Passarella, Simeone to name a few) and possible rendition of the following targets (Messi, Riquelme and Veron)[/QUOTE]

:lol:

If anybody in this world has the idea to kidnap Messi, would begin the third world war. Trust me. :lol:

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[video=youtube;dNRgP4FVDzA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNRgP4FVDzA[/video]

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Who is ratting on ms users to the NSA?

I applied for some government organisation a while back and they asked for religious beliefs, what my parents were like as individuals and porn sites visited.

I was drinking a bit back then and was hung over. For the two-three pages for religion I wrote "be nice to people" and had several lines for the porn sites.