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to be perfectly honest i can't get my head around building 7 either but if it was a false flag operation as a lot of you are suggesting why go perfecting all the rest of the plan but then pull building 7 down in a controlled demolition knowing that no plane hit it...it just doesn't make sense that they should pulverize building 7 on its own certainly knowing it would raise eyebrows which it certainly has, wouldn't exactly be left out by a professionally set up operation.... so it doesn't make sense to me this was a false flag op

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[QUOTE=Illuminate;1117393]Bit of a obscure situation, as a standard office fire would not be started by a jet engine that just crashed into your building.[/QUOTE]

No plane hit building 7

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the conspiracy theorists saying building 7 proves it is like a christian saying jesus will come back because the bible says so

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[video=youtube;2iGYVh7HZo8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iGYVh7HZo8[/video]

i don't know about you but when the plane hits i see a lot of hot material flying through the air, i would say that if a piece of this smashed through an office window its most probably hot enough to start a fire

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[QUOTE=thebanned1;1117394]to be perfectly honest i can't get my head around building 7 either but if it was a false flag operation as a lot of you are suggesting why go perfecting all the rest of the plan but then pull building 7 down in a controlled demolition knowing that no plane hit it...it just doesn't make sense that they should pulverize building 7 on its own certainly knowing it would raise eyebrows which it certainly has, wouldn't exactly be left out by a professionally set up operation.... so it doesn't make sense to me this was a false flag op[/QUOTE]

Where was the plane that was brought down in Pennsylvania going?

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To a certain degree I still question WTC 7. Just amazing how burned rubbish brought a whole building down. Have not thoroughly started going through the NIST report yet, something yet to fulfil in the time available.

Would there ever be a probable scientific explanation for it? Possibly none, I personally believe physics questions the probability of it all.

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But then again, as accurate as science may be, first hand evidence will outweigh most hypothesis. No one really has mentioned anything about this or I have not been aware of any first hand evidence of WTC 7. Apart from a single line repeated in some neo-liberal movie about they heard 'a big bang'.

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you're talking to me like i have all the answers, you're talking like it was shot down, you'll never know this, maybe the terrorists got spooked, if they did either way they knew they would die no matter what and deliberately crashed the plane... i don't buy into this " brave hostages stormed the cockpit"

how many people/terrorists on board that flight do you suggest had aviation knowledge

truth is you're never going to know so were condemned to discussing ( ok mostly arguing ) about it on forums and shit ... the "official" story is never going to be made public simply because it was used as a way to justify a war... this only riles people up and fuels cover up/false flag theories

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[QUOTE=Illuminate;1117401]But then again, as accurate as science may be, first hand evidence will outweigh most hypothesis. No one really has mentioned anything about this or I have not been aware of any first hand evidence of WTC 7. Apart from a single line repeated in some neo-liberal movie about they heard 'a big bang'.[/QUOTE]

Actually there is video footage of the so called big bang. I can dig it out if you want?

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[QUOTE=thebanned1;1117402]you're talking to me like i have all the answers, you're talking like it was shot down, you'll never know this, maybe the terrorists got spooked, if they did either way they knew they would die no matter what and deliberately crashed the plane... i don't buy into this " brave hostages stormed the cockpit"

how many people/terrorists on board that flight do you suggest had aviation knowledge

truth is you're never going to know so were condemned to discussing ( ok mostly arguing ) about it on forums and shit ... the "official" story is never going to be made public simply because it was used as a way to justify a war... this only riles people up and fuels cover up/false flag theories[/QUOTE]

Actually I'm talking to you like the passengers brought the plane down. Probably the one thing the government couldn't predict. The plane was probably brought down as a result of the passengers trying to regain control of the cock pit.

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[QUOTE=King Coe;1117404]Actually I'm talking to you like the passengers brought the plane down. Probably the one thing the government couldn't predict.[/QUOTE]

its possible but it's too hollywood for my tastes

too bad story has to have a hero ending.... sooooo freedom

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[QUOTE=thebanned1;1117398]

i don't know about you but when the plane hits i see a lot of hot material flying through the air, i would say that if a piece of this smashed through an office window its most probably hot enough to start a fire[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't dispute the possibility that the debris you speak of could start a fire. What we're talking about here is the [I]simultaneous[/I] collapse of all four corners of a steel framed building.

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[QUOTE=audrey_w;1117406]I wouldn't dispute the possibility that the debris you speak of could start a fire. What we're talking about here is the [I]simultaneous[/I] collapse of all four corners of a steel framed building.[/QUOTE]

watch the youtube again.. there is a huge fireball, considering building 7 was 350 feet away from the north tower, idk maybe its possible it was hit by that... like i said i don't understand building 7 either....building 7 didn't fall straight down, there is a picture showing all the damaged buildings around it after the collapse, it just looks like it did in the most popular video, the whole point of a controlled demolition is to bring a building down on its own imprint to stop it from damaging things around it

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I think you will find most people will disagree with you on that one, The building fell into its foot print, it didn't topple over.

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this was the only one i could find

[IMG]http://www.911review.com/attack/wtc/imgs/wtc7_pile.jpg[/IMG]

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[QUOTE=King Coe;1117409]I think you will find most people will disagree with you on that one, The building fell into its foot print, it didn't topple over.[/QUOTE]

i think i,ll be proven correct with the above picture

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[QUOTE=thebanned1;1117411]i think i,ll be proven correct with the above picture[/QUOTE]

Err I think not, yes the other building sustained some damage due to its proximity to building 7. However the loins share of the building is in its foot print.

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You're clutching at straws with that one

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the majority of it is in its footprint yes... it still proves nothing, these building were a unique design for the time, they were also old and probably not maintained properly... i go back to the "jesus will come back, the bible says so" post if you're saying building 7 alone proves your theory

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[QUOTE=King Coe;1117415]You're clutching at straws with that one[/QUOTE]

i,m clutching at straws with you on this full stop... how many times have we argued ( and others ) about this whole thing? where exactly is it getting us ?

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[QUOTE=thebanned1;1117417]i,m clutching at straws with you on this full stop... how many times have we argued ( and others ) about this whole thing? where exactly is it getting us ?[/QUOTE]

Well it's far more entertaining than spamming the place with photos, beating off about post counts or saying thanks for the set.

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[QUOTE=King Coe;1117419]Well it's far more entertaining than spamming the place with photos, beating off about post counts or saying thanks for the set.[/QUOTE]

creates a bad vibe though as it always leads to fighting ( not just you and i ).... to answer your earlier question " what the hell is wrong with this place "... this is my answer

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"Jesus will come back, the bible says so"

An absurdity yes. On a par with "we've been attacked by 20 suicide bombers (many of whom are still alive) of Saudi origin, let's invade Afghanistan"

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[img]http://i.imgur.com/8W3RKER.png[/img]

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Is a circle jerk like when a man wanks another man off? You been touching cocks again res0

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[QUOTE=audrey_w;1117448]"Jesus will come back, the bible says so"

An absurdity yes. On a par with "we've been attacked by 20 suicide bombers (many of whom are still alive) of Saudi origin, let's invade Afghanistan"[/QUOTE]

see instead of arguing your case show me hard proof, i,m waiting to be convinced... all this time spent wasted arguing each others case when we could of all got together and either bunked it or debunked it

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if they are still alive... why haven't they come forward... i,m sure sticking two fingers up at the strongest government in the world would be a great prize for a nation of people who have grown up hating them

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oh and king coe..... you asked me earlier where the sleeper cells were [URL="http://edition.cnn.com/2014/01/30/world/europe/russia-terror-volgograd/"]Report: Russia ID's 2 in connection with Volgograd bombing - CNN.com[/URL] ... funny... its never quite made it to most western news outlets

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[QUOTE=thebanned1;1117458]oh and king coe..... you asked me earlier where the sleeper cells were [URL="http://edition.cnn.com/2014/01/30/world/europe/russia-terror-volgograd/"]Report: Russia ID's 2 in connection with Volgograd bombing - CNN.com[/URL] ... funny... its never quite made it to most western news outlets[/QUOTE]

Hardly an epidemic of sleeper cells training, scheming and planning. If this is global terrorism I for one am not impressed.

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[QUOTE=King Coe;1117467]Hardly an epidemic of sleeper cells training, scheming and planning. If this is global terrorism I for one am not impressed.[/QUOTE]

no you wouldn't be, how stupid of me

of course these "illegal" wars have got nothing to do with stopping the supply of sleeper cells, i mean terrorist training grounds in afghanistan were a lie but if it were true then i,m sure they could fully operate freely in afghanistan with all the american troops in the country, who knows maybe just another false flag operation, one of many surrounding this whole saga, you know how it goes, one lie leads to another lie and that lie leads to another

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So what happened with Al Qaeda's war on the west? They got lost and ended up in Russia LOL

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[QUOTE=King Coe;1117476]So what happened with Al Qaeda's war on the west? They got lost and ended up in Russia LOL[/QUOTE]

you know when i read that story i asked myself the same question, russia had a war in afghanistan, could be one reason, the west has obviously spent a lot of money on stopping the spread of these which probably means they're either scared to move or they've been disbanded, cutting off the training and also tracking down those who have been in afghanistan means they might not have the skills to operate a cell anymore... like i said previously i don't have all the answers

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you should watch this.... its certainly an eye opener in a fucked up sense

[video=youtube;Ja5Q75hf6QI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja5Q75hf6QI[/video]

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[url="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/110890.The_Looming_Tower"]The Looming Tower: Al-Qaeda and the Road to 9/11 by Lawrence Wright — Reviews, Discussion, Bookclubs, Lists[/url]