...and they were right!

[url]http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/05/us-cia-killlist-idUSTRE79475C20111005[/url]

Obama. Barack Obama. Double-O-Jackass.

Re: They told me if I voted for Bob Barr, our president would create a secret kill li

You think something like this never existed before Obama? lulz.

Re: They told me if I voted for Bob Barr, our president would create a secret kill li

are you speculating or do you have a link to share? i mean, i'd be interested in finding out whether this secret kill list existed before obama, but i heard on NPR that 'this situation presented a novel scenario for US policymakers" so I, yaknow, assume this is really really really new.

and people were throwing shit-fits over gitmo. and now they're silent.

Re: They told me if I voted for Bob Barr, our president would create a secret kill li

Racist.

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Ssdd

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The so-called kill list existed prior Obama....just another of the wonderful things brought to you by the long-running war on terrorism. The list existed in the Clinton era as well. Most notably Clinton declined to give the GO order on assassinating Osama Bin Laden during his run as president. Some people DO deserve to die imo

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I'm not even sure you want a thread title to have those words in it to be honest.

Re: They told me if I voted for Bob Barr, our president would create a secret kill li

[QUOTE=Weizy;994077]The so-called kill list existed prior Obama....just another of the wonderful things brought to you by the long-running war on terrorism. The list existed in the Clinton era as well. Most notably Clinton declined to give the GO order on assassinating Osama Bin Laden during his run as president. Some people DO deserve to die imo[/QUOTE]

link?

Osama was not an American citizen. [QUOTE=floridaorange;994100]I'm not even sure you want a thread title to have those words in it to be honest.[/QUOTE]

I could change it do, "they told me if i voted john mccain...."

Re: They told me if I voted for Bob Barr, our president would create a secret kill li

You think the gov't keeps a public excel spreadsheet on google docs of who they want to wack? if someone in the white house inner circle wants your ass dead, american or no american it will happen...

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Here's my thoughts on things. I don't know what exactly my forefathers, or current fellow citizens do to keep me safe and let me live like I do according to the US constitution. I don't want to either. I'm sure it is atrocious, appaling and perhaps sometimes (in my mind) downright wrong.

HOWEVER, if that makes it so I can drive across the country without being stopped at each state border to check my papers, or make signs telling soldiers they are going to hell (just an example), or telling women who use abortions as a form of birth control they are whores and are going to hell, then so be it. I pay for my freedoms with my taxes and my fellow citizens supplement that with their blood and to some extent personal sanity. I will never question a military operation unless I knew without a doubt I had ALL the facts.

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^How about a domestic military operation? Just saying....and considering the "unthinkable."

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;994179] if someone in the white house inner circle wants your ass dead, american or no american it will happen...[/QUOTE]

Agreed. [FONT=Arial] Forget the legal system, if the "administration" of the day or any other, says, you're guilty, then you can expect a bullet to the back of the head or a droning if you're living outside of the USA.

And nobody needs to explain shit.

Watch the moron, Press Secretary James Carney in action, talking all the usual bullshit whilst at the same time, shoving it down the throats of millions.

[video=youtube;kAkf7ZhS8sI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAkf7ZhS8sI[/video]

And they get away with it completely unchallenged.

Things are seriously farked up and I feel for those who are caught up in it all.

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Yeah that video is pretty crazy...but I have myself a good way of keeping that from happening to me. If someone in the White House says that I am a terrorist and they are going to shoot my ass...probably gonna pack up the olde video camera and not make anymore 'kill america' videos. :lol:

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;995367]Yeah that video is pretty crazy...but I have myself a good way of keeping that from happening to me. If someone in the White House says that I am a terrorist and they are going to shoot my ass...probably gonna pack up the olde video camera and not make anymore 'kill america' videos. :lol:[/QUOTE]

yay self censorship.

plus they don't literally 'shoot' you. they blow ya ass up :)

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look...if you are going to say 'death to america' and all other kinds of shit like that, and you get a fair warning that someone big and in power is pissed off at you and you continue to do it...well expect to get your ass kicked. darwinism at its finest.

Ever see Die Hard 3?

:lol:

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;995379]look...if you are going to say 'death to america' and all other kinds of shit like that, and you get a fair warning that someone big and in power is pissed off at you and you continue to do it...well expect to get your ass kicked. darwinism at its finest. [/QUOTE]

I agree with this, but you've got to wonder could there be a more [I]ethical [/I]approach. Send in soldiers and capture these wanted men with their faces on a pack of playing cards,

The Anwar case goes beyond this the whole American citizen dilemma pretty much went against any constitutional rights: Fifth Amendment, This was a decent opinion:

[QUOTE]This column was written by Seth Dawson, senior politics and philosophy major. The Obama Administration has decided that it has the authority to kill citizens at its discretion, ignoring any and all Constitutional rights that get in the way. Last month, the government assassinated two American citizens in Yemen with no due process, no trial, no charges and no legal justification. The deaths of Anwar al-Awlaki and Samir Khan were hailed by the President as “another significant milestone in the broader effort to defeat al Qaeda and its affiliates,” but it would have been more accurate to call it a milestone on the road to authoritarianism. As citizens, we are supposed to be protected by the “due process of law.” The Fifth Amendment guarantees that the government will respect people’s rights when it decides to prosecute, fine, incarcerate or kill them for a crime. Despite their ties to al Qaeda, al-Awlaki and Khan had the same rights as every other citizen. They had the right to be informed of their crime. They had the right to a trial by jury. They had the right to face their accusers and the right to legal representation. The Obama Administration decided to skip all those minor Constitutional hurdles—trials can be so annoying sometimes—and jump straight to the execution. Now, in the aftermath of two unconstitutional assassinations, the Administration is refusing to tell us what evidence it used to justify killing these citizens. White House spokesman Jay Carney assured the press that the Administration would only target citizens who threaten the nation, but revealed nothing about how it would determine who is a threat. Last week, Reuters reported that “American militants like Anwar al-Awlaki are placed on a kill or capture list by a secretive panel of senior government officials, which then informs the president of its decisions . . . There is no public record of the operations or decisions of the panel . . . Neither is there any law establishing its existence or setting out the rules by which it is supposed to operate.” Apparently we all owe an apology to Sarah Palin; Obama does have a death panel after all. Of course, this death panel is far more sinister than the ones Palin suggested were hiding in the Affordable Care Act. It has been empowered to decide which citizens are entitled to their Constitutional rights and which citizens are unprotected “threats.” It can determine who has the right to due process, the right to a trial by jury and the right to be free from cruel and unusual punishments on whatever grounds it sees fit. Because it has no public record and is governed by no laws, this panel never has to reveal the standard of evidence it uses to make its decisions. What does it take to earn a spot on that kill list? How much evidence is enough to prove that a citizen is a threat [url="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=368"]worthy[/url] of assassination? We the People have no idea. The Obama Administration refuses to tell us.

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[url]http://whitmanpioneer.com/opinion/2011/10/13/guest-column-al-awlaki-assasination/[/url]

Re: They told me if I voted for Bob Barr, our president would create a secret kill li

i bet they are citing some ruling somewhere that if you are labeled a 'terrorist' then that is > all else, and then the rules dont apply...which is pretty shitty.

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Yeahp; Law and Order down the bloody drain.

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;995846]i bet they are citing some ruling somewhere that if you are labeled a 'terrorist' then that is > all else, and then the rules dont apply...which is pretty shitty.[/QUOTE]

[IMG]http://geekshuiliving.com/images//homelandsecurity.jpg[/IMG]

Would this be the answer? Not too sure exactly what these guys do.

Re: They told me if I voted for Bob Barr, our president would create a secret kill li

Who cares, let's 'Occupy Wall St' instead.