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NFL’s Abdullah brothers get White House invitation[/h] Posted by Michael David Smith on August 10, 2011, 8:33 AM EDT [IMG]http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/abdullah_husain.jpg?w=250[/IMG] Cardinals safety [URL="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3397/hamza-abdullah"]Hamza Abdullah[/URL] and Vikings safety [URL="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5026/husain-abdullah"]Husain Abdullah[/URL] have been excused from their teams today as they travel to Washington to be guests at a White House dinner. The Abdullah brothers were invited to tonight’s Iftar dinner to celebrate the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.

“[URL="http://tucsoncitizen.com/sports-news/2011/08/09/arizona-cardinals-safety-hamza-abdullah-invited-to-the-white-house/"]I’m still in shock over it[/URL],” Hamza Abdullah told the [I]Arizona Republic[/I]. “I’m still waiting to get to the airport and they say, ‘OK, it’s fake.’” The invitation comes a year after the Abdullah brothers gained national attention for fasting during daylight hours throughout Ramadan, which meant going through grueling training camp practices in the August heat [URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/09/vikings-special-teamer-has-plan-for-ramadan-this-time-around/"]without drinking any water[/URL]. Hamza will fly from Phoenix to Washington today, visit the White House and then fly to Oakland to play in the Cardinals’ preseason game against the Raiders on Thursday. Husain will return to Minnesota after the dinner to prepare for the Vikings’ preseason game at Tennessee on Saturday.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't the democrats calling the tea party and republican media "crazy" for even mentioning something this false. Will be the first time in history folks the US president is muslim, and we wonder why so many Christian Americans are upset about it.

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Fuck the Christians.

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[QUOTE=Jenks;980761]Fuck the Christians.[/QUOTE]

Uncalled for...

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How very unchristian of you Clint. Would Jesus approve? Tisk tisk.

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islamophobia

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[QUOTE=Jenks;980764]How very unchristian of you Clint. Would Jesus approve? Tisk tisk.[/QUOTE]

yeah, yeah. I edited it. Initial reaction cause I'm Christian.

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[QUOTE=trick12;980765]islamophobia[/QUOTE]

There's no hatred or fear trick, it's just complete opposite of my faith.

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What's wrong with Muslims? They pray to a different god, so what? Lots of people do. Because it's not what you believe, it's wrong?

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not really, its just that anything related to islam nowadays is a huge NO, just like the wholefood store incident..u can have a good/bad christian president, and you can have a good/bad muslim president

[URL]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/09/whole-foods-ramadan_n_922354.html[/URL]

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[QUOTE=trick12;980769]not really, its just that anything related to islam nowadays is a huge NO, just like the wholefood store incident..u can have a good/bad christian president, and you can have a good/bad muslim president

[URL]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/09/whole-foods-ramadan_n_922354.html[/URL][/QUOTE]

There are good people and bad people, religion is secondary.

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[QUOTE=Jenks;980768]What's wrong with Muslims? They pray to a different god, so what? Lots of people do. Because it's not what you believe, it's wrong?[/QUOTE]

actually they pray to God. but differ in the concept of Jesus, and the trinity.

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[QUOTE=Jenks;980770]There are good people and bad people, religion is secondary.[/QUOTE]

well we def need to separate the people from the religion

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[QUOTE=trick12;980771]actually they pray to God. but differ in the concept of Jesus, and the trinity.[/QUOTE]

Yeah. Basic point is, they're different. Big deal, let them be different. Differing opinions sure cause a lot of problems.

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yeah they are different. but that shouldn't automatically make them bad, would you trust all christians just because they are christians?

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[QUOTE=trick12;980775]yeah they are different. but that shouldn't automatically make them bad, would you trust all christians just because they are christians?[/QUOTE]

It doesn't automatically make them bad. we're saying the same thing here.

i trust [U]people[/U] if they're trustworthy, religion never enters the equation.

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[QUOTE=Jenks;980768]What's wrong with Muslims? They pray to a different god, so what? Lots of people do. Because it's not what you believe, it's wrong?[/QUOTE]

It's surprising because it was denied for so long. If there's nothing wrong with the Muslim faith, why was the media coverage on Obama during his campaign and first years in office denying that he was? The vast majority of Americans will disagree with having an openly muslim president. All races too... don't pull the race card out.

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[QUOTE=clintlove;980778]It's surprising because it was denied for so long. If there's nothing wrong with the Muslim faith, why was the media coverage on Obama during his campaign and first years in office denying that he was? The vast majority of Americans will disagree with having an openly muslim president. [/QUOTE]

Well, you don't have any proof he IS a Muslim, it's just like, your opinion, man. And you're losing this argument when you start using phrases like "Media Coverage" and "vast majority of Americans." What the hell does either of those matter? I think the [I]vast majority of americans[/I] are fucking looney, and the [I]media coverage[/I] proves it. ;)

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[COLOR=#222222][FONT=MS PGothic][QUOTE=Jenks;980777]It doesn't automatically make them bad. we're saying the same thing here.

i trust [U]people[/U] if they're trustworthy, religion never enters the equation.[/QUOTE][/FONT][/COLOR] yeah i know jenks...

my question was more of a thought for judging someone directly for them being different...while the similar could be even more of harm, it all depends on the person

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[QUOTE=clintlove;980778]It's surprising because it was denied for so long. If there's nothing wrong with the Muslim faith, why was the media coverage on Obama during his campaign and first years in office denying that he was? The vast majority of Americans will disagree with having an openly muslim president. All races too... don't pull the race card out.[/QUOTE]

come on man, not just by inviting a muslim person in a his holy month means his muslim too...plus big deal anyways, well what if he did so much good to the country would the muslim issue still be relevant?

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Never thought I would "win" an argument about this Jenks. That wasn't my point.

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[QUOTE=clintlove;980778]If there's nothing wrong with the Muslim faith, why was the media coverage on Obama during his campaign and first years in office denying that he was? [/QUOTE]

do you follow the media blindly? who is the media to decide if a faith was wright or wrong?

it was for the reason that most people will be like you and judge him directly not by his actions and capabilities but by his religion, so thats why.

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Great points by Chris Christie here, along some of the same lines what's being discussed in this thread. Vid is about the criticism of a Muslim American judge he appointed in New Jersey, and the ridiculous "crap" public outcry against it.

"I'm tired of dealing with the crazies" +1.

[video=youtube;y83z552NJaw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y83z552NJaw[/video]

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[QUOTE=trick12;980785]it was for the reason that most people will be like you and judge him directly not by his actions and capabilities but by his religion, so thats why.[/QUOTE]

Ummm... I've been judging him on his actions and capabilities, or lack there of, since before he was elected. I don't care if he is muslim, I don't care if he prays to a coke bottle. My point of this thread was to discuss why was his muslim faith was denied for so long? Most likely because he knew he wouldn't have gotten elected president if he had openly admitted it during his campaign. I know, I know, how do we know he's muslim? The fact that's he's celebrating a muslim holiday in the white house is kinda a sign.

[video=youtube;KS-3BcqBH7Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS-3BcqBH7Y[/video]

[video=youtube;tCAffMSWSzY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY[/video]

The fact they pointed out he visited a mosque, IS kinda silly.

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[QUOTE=clintlove;980789] The fact that's he's celebrating a muslim holiday in the white house is kinda a sign[/QUOTE]

:lol: no it isn't. jeez bro. reaching a bit? lol.

Repairing Muslim relations maybe? Extending an olive branch to the Muslim community to try to show that we're not a country that hates Islam? Lots of other reasons other than jumping to the conclusion that, OMG he IS a Muslim! SEE!!!

Did Vinnie hack your account?

I've got a lot of reasons to not re-elect Obomber, but this one shouldn't even be on the radar.

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I said kinda... :)

Look the story just kinda came as a shock to me as this is the first story I've seen of a muslim holiday being celebrated in the white house. I'm not saying it's wrong, just surprising. Yes I jumped to the conclusion that this "made" Obama a muslim. People of that religion have been terrorizing America for decades. And, yes Americans have also terrorized America too, just not on such a large scale (i.e. 9/11)

Sorry if I offended anyone, that wasn't my intent. Politics and religion is a touchy subject, that's why I stayed away from this forum for so long. I hope we are still BFFs ;)

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[QUOTE=Jenks;980761]Fuck the Christians.[/QUOTE] Right back at you. And another ignore candidate.

[QUOTE=Jenks;980791]:lol: no it isn't. jeez bro. reaching a bit? lol.

Repairing Muslim relations maybe? Extending an olive branch to the Muslim community to try to show that we're not a country that hates Islam? Lots of other reasons other than jumping to the conclusion that, OMG he IS a Muslim! SEE!!!

Did Vinnie hack your account?

I've got a lot of reasons to not re-elect Obomber, but this one shouldn't even be on the radar.[/QUOTE] Maybe you should touch up on the Koran and see what it views as acceptable action against nonbelievers before you try to slam me again. And with that slam, you're also confirmed as ignored.

EDIT: That's not possible. I will just close my account instead since I've got a moderator taking potshots.

Good riddance to this place.

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[QUOTE=vinnie97;980799]Right back at you. And another ignore candidate.

Maybe you should touch up on the Koran and see what it views as acceptable action against nonbelievers before you try to [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=15"]slam[/URL] me again. And with that [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=15"]slam[/URL], you're also confirmed as ignored.

EDIT: That's not possible. I will just close my account instead since I've got a moderator taking potshots.

Good riddance to this place.[/QUOTE]

If you're putting everyone on ignore anyway, what's the point to continue posting? :lol:

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Sounds like his love of politics overrides his love of dance music, or at least his love for this dance music forum. Like I was saying, politics is a touchy subject. Even more touchy when you disagree with friends. I'm taking a step back from political discussion; it's not worth it. Time will tell. I'll see you in GYY ;)

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^dude, i don't think anyone is mad here (cept vinnie for some reason), i'm posting with a smile. :)

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we cool clint, i see your point and you werent really offensive, i was trying to tell you that this shouldn't be a proof that he's muslim and this shouldnt be the biggest worry...

now vinnie i think you will get raped soon by a big big black guy, ur full of fear and ignorance.

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[QUOTE=clintlove;980792]I said kinda... :)

Look the story just kinda came as a shock to me as this is the first story I've seen of a muslim holiday being celebrated in the white house. I'm not saying it's wrong, just surprising. Yes I jumped to the conclusion that this "made" Obama a muslim. People of that religion have been terrorizing America for decades. And, yes Americans have also terrorized America too, just not on such a large scale (i.e. 9/11)

Sorry if I offended anyone, that wasn't my intent. Politics and religion is a touchy subject, that's why I stayed away from this forum for so long. I hope we are still BFFs ;)[/QUOTE]

Probably the only reason this story was brought to light was to rehash the old fear that he IS Muslim. There are probably so many formal dinners and 'cultural meetings' that every president has to dutifully attend as part of the office that they want to shoot themselves.

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/pHFJf.gif[/IMG]

:lol:

[QUOTE=vinnie97;980799]Right back at you. And another ignore candidate.

Maybe you should touch up on the Koran and see what it views as acceptable action against nonbelievers before you try to [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=15"]slam[/URL] me again. And with that [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=15"]slam[/URL], you're also confirmed as ignored.

EDIT: That's not possible. I will just close my account instead since I've got a moderator taking potshots.

Good riddance to this place.[/QUOTE]

Smell ya later.

Dude you've ignored about half the board, nice work. Also hilarious that you talk about the damn dirty Jews and Zionists every post but can't take any heat. Probably shouldn't come to a dance music board and only talk about religion and politics eh? But you won't see any of this since you ignored me long ago. ;)

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fuck yo gold

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[QUOTE=res0nat0r;980907]. Probably shouldn't come to a dance music board and only talk about religion and politics eh? But you won't see any of this since you ignored me long ago. ;)[/QUOTE]

Why not? you do. Oh and to spam the movie section with whatever movie is due for release

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Politicians have to recognize (and pretend to celebrate) all kinds of religions, it comes with the job title. next :)

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I'd ban anyone from running for office if they believed any religion at all. Next

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[quote=bobjuice;981045]i'd ban anyone from running for office if they believed any religion at all. Next[/quote]

:d

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[QUOTE=bobjuice;981045]I'd ban anyone from running for office if they believed any religion at all. Next[/QUOTE] We have an atheist Prime Minister, who is also living in sin !! :Respect:

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nevermind

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FFS, Thomas Jefferson did the same thing way back in 1805. That's right, over 200 years ago folks.

Does that make Thomas Jefferson a Muslim?

Once again, another non issue tossed around to create more fear and more hate against Muslims.

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[video=youtube;ANk9qydfGe4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANk9qydfGe4[/video]