The illegal Gunrunner/Gunwalker/Fast And Furious Operation is about to be blown wide open to show the true nature of the host of anti-American criminals that are running this country (further) into the ground:[INDENT][I]"This is not a discovery process of what happened. We know what happened. We know that this Administration at the highest levels approved a process that allowed thousands of high powered weapons, basically [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=1504"]AK[/URL]-47s and M-16 look alikes, to go to the worst of the worst on both sides of the borders." [/I]

  [I]"This was an operation approved in Washington." [/I]

 [I]"We have a slew of subpeonas that we expect to be issuing for people here in Washington." 

[/I][/INDENT][I] [URL]http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2011/06/06/issa_slew_of_subpeonas_to_be_issued_over_operation_fast_and_furious[/URL][/I]

If there is any vacillation, it's because Issa and co. are holding out for a payoff. For those who can't get enough of the mainstream:

[url]http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-20069439-10391695.html?tag=latest[/url]

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[B][URL]http://blogs.forbes.com/larrybell/2011/06/07/u-n-agreement-should-have-all-gun-owners-up-in-arms/[/URL]

[/B][quote] It may not come as surprising news to many of you that the United Nations doesn’t approve of our Second Amendment. Not one bit. And they very much hope to do something about it with help from some powerful American friends. Under the guise of a proposed global “Small Arms Treaty” premised to fight “terrorism”, “insurgency” and “international crime syndicates” you can be quite certain that an even more insidious threat is being targeted – our Constitutional right for law-abiding citizens to own and bear arms. What, exactly, does the intended agreement entail? While the terms have yet to be made public, if passed by the U.N. and ratified by our Senate, it will almost certainly force the U.S. to:

[LIST=1] []Enact tougher licensing requirements, creating additional bureaucratic red tape for legal firearms ownership. []Confiscate and destroy all “unauthorized” civilian firearms (exempting those owned by our government of course). []Ban the trade, sale and private ownership of all semi-automatic weapons (any that have magazines even though they still operate in the same one trigger pull – one single “bang” manner as revolvers, a simple fact the ant-gun media never seem to grasp). []Create an international gun registry, clearly setting the stage for full-scale gun confiscation. [*]In short, overriding our national sovereignty, and in the process, providing license for the federal government to assert preemptive powers over state regulatory powers guaranteed by the Tenth Amendment in addition to our Second Amendment rights. [/LIST] continues[/quote]Anyone who sees the UN as nothing but a benevolent organization to the peoples of the world needs to seriously do further investigating. And considering our usurper is holding a chair in the UN while simultaneously claiming (fraudulently) the office of the Pres, we have significant problems concerning truth and faith.

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drop the fraudulent president shit already. donald trump finally stopped acting like a jackass about it even he quit it. you should try also.

also no one will ever be able to take away guns in this gun nut country. never happening.

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This party is just getting started:

[URL]http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/09/issa-schedules-second-gunrunner-fast-and-furious-hearing/[/URL]

[quote] Rep. Darrell Issa, California Republican and chairman of the House Oversight Committee, announced details for the second in what he said will be a series of hearings on Project Gunrunner and Operation Fast and Furious. The hearing, set for Wednesday June 15, will [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=1241"]examine[/URL] “reckless decisions” and “tragic outcomes” as a result of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) programs.

In Project Gunrunner and Operation Fast and Furious, ATF officials who reported to President Barack Obama’s Department of Justice (DOJ) allowed guns to be taken into Mexico via “straw purchasers,” or people who were eligible to purchase guns in the U.S. but were doing so with the known intention of trafficking them into Mexico. The ultimate goal, apparently, was to attempt to track the larger Mexican drug cartels’ gun market.

Next Wednesday’s hearing witnesses, according to an Oversight Committee release, will include Sen. Chuck Grassley, Iowa Republican, ATF agents, Justice Department officials and family members of dead Border Patrol agent Brian Terry. Two AK47’s the ATF was tracking in Operation Fast and Furious were found at the scene of Terry’s death.[LEFT][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][/LEFT] [COLOR=#000000]continues[/COLOR][/quote][LEFT][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][/LEFT]

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[URL]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/06/09/justice-officials-in-panic-mode-as-new-testimony-is-expected-to-reveal-depth/[/URL]

[quote] A high-powered sniper rifle was used to shoot down a Mexican military helicopter. Two other Romanian-made [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=1504"]AK[/URL]-47s were found in a shoot-out that left 11 dead in the state of Jalisco three weeks ago.

The guns were traced to the Lone Wolf Gun Store in Glendale, Ariz., and were sold only after the store employees were told to do so by the ATF.

It is illegal to buy a gun for anyone but yourself. However, ATF's own documents show it allowed just 15 men to buy 1,725 guns, and 1,318 of those were after the purchasers officially became targets of investigation.

Arizona gun store owners say they were explicitly told by the ATF to sell the guns, sometimes 20, 30, even up to 40 in a single day to single person.

And those orders, from at least one ATF case agent, are on audio recording.[/quote] [quote]The hearing is billed as "Reckless Decisions, Tragic Outcomes," and the following are among the details expected in testimony:

• The ATF allowed and encouraged five Arizona gun store owners to sell some 1,800 weapons to buyers known to them as gun smugglers.
• It installed cameras inside the gun stores to record purchases made by those smugglers.
• It hid GPS trackers inside gun stocks and watched the weapons go south on computer screens.
• It obtained surveillance video from parking lots and helicopters showing straw buyers transferring their guns from one car to another.
• It learned guns sold in Phoenix were recovered only when Mexico police requested "trace data," which is obtained from their serial number.

The first witness in Wednesday's hearing is Sen. [URL="http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/chuck-grassley.htm#r_src=ramp"]Charles Grassley[/URL], who will describe what his investigative team learned from four months of interviews and thousands of documents. He will be followed by three members of Brian Terry's family, three ATF agents and Assistant Attorney General Ronald Weich, who only months ago insisted the agency did not let guns go south to Mexico, a claim contradicted by field agents in Group 7, the actual agents who ran the operation in Phoenix.[/quote]

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The hearings continued today, and this should be the big news story of the day...ATF agents pointing to upper DOJ echelon as the architects of a gunrunner program that empowered cartels to go on killing rampages in Mexico and spilled over to kill a US border agent. This must have been what O'Commie (I make no apologies...anyone who is attempting to circumvent the 2nd Amendment "under the radar" deserves no better title) was referencing when he mentioned they were working on gun control "under the radar."

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stop saying o'commie.

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About time Issa get's the book thrown at him... my Dad has talked a lot of trash about Issa :lol: and he doesn't usually talk all that much trash, unless a politician deserves it.

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I guess you watched a different hearing than I did. Cummings, Weich, et al simply vacillated their way out of any wrongdoing by making this look like a political witchhunt, which was the primary reason actual constitutional scholars were brought in on Monday, to show that there is historical precedent for a DO"J" to be subpoenaed.

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darn, so he's getting off scott free then? I'm not watching the hearings, just assumed he's getting what he deserves finally.

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You must be thinking of some past trangressions...I am sure he's not squeaky clean (is any politician, ever?) But yes, Issa is the one issuing the subpoenas, and he has eyewitness testimony from ATF agents who have claimed under oath that they were coerced into this operation, to vilify gun shops into illegally selling arms to unscrupulous individuals who then resell them to cartels across the border, all in an apparent attempt to make the case for further executive attacks against the 2nd Amendment.

It's just putting the loose ends together, but remember this morsel from 2 years ago? [URL]http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/17/obama-blames-us-guns-in-mexico/[/URL]

[quote] Meeting face-to-face with Mexican President Felipe Calderon, President Obama on Thursday said the U.S. is to blame for much of Mexico’s drug violence, and he set up a major congressional gun-control battle by calling on the Senate to ratify a treaty designed to track and cut the flow of guns to other countries.

Mr. Obama said he wants to renew a ban on some semiautomatic weapons but that it is not likely to pass Congress. Instead, he called for the Senate to ratify a decade-old hemispherewide treaty that would require nations to mark all weapons produced in the country and track them to make sure no weapons were exported to countries where they were banned. [/quote] He blames the US for gun exportation into Mexico (in spite of the evidence of the majority coming by way of Mexico's southern border) and around the same time this operation is engaged (FACILITATING the transfer of thousands of guns to the violent cartels), which makes an already volatile situation extremely worse. The ensuing violence will then pad the "statistics" and our usurper can make another fraudulent argument about needing more curtailing of the Second Amendment, all because of a manufactured crisis.

It's a classic case of the ends justify the means and more evidence of corruption and agendas being placed before the law.

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I know you put me on ignore a long time ago since I call you for your bullshit more than you like, but srsly, there have been tons of attempts to ban assault weapons before The Black Man became president. :roll:

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[video=youtube;LHkaRU9EoVM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHkaRU9EoVM[/video]

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[url]http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/06/20/us.fast.and.furious/index.html?hpt=hp_t1[/url]

[B]Washington (CNN)[/B] -- Kenneth Melson, acting director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, is expected to resign under pressure, perhaps in the next day or two, in the wake of the controversy over Operation Fast and Furious, two senior federal law enforcement sources said Monday.

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This alleged White House Insider and his mouthpiece, Ulsterman, is either some kind of CIA psyop or is a legitimate leak, because the predictions going back to February/March about that racist Holder getting ousted and potentially thrown under the bus are looking increasingly likely to come to pass:

[URL]http://newsflavor.com/politics/us-politics/the-ulsterman-report-obama-doj-scrambles-to-survive-gunrunner-scandal/[/URL]

An ATF director is resigning, but the investigation continues:

[quote]During last week’s hearing into the Gunrunner scandal, a livid Congressman Issa tore into Assistant Attorney General Ronald Weich over Weich’s earlier assertions that the Obama Department of Justice had fully cooperated with the Congressional investigation. What Weich failed to admit to was the fact the DOJ had sent Issa’s office page after page of redacted documents – almost every detail had been blacked out. Senator Chuck Grassley had earlier indicated “heads must roll” in relation to the Gunrunner scandal, a sign that the departure of ATF Director Melson will likely not prove enough. This past Monday Congressman Issa told CNS news that he believes the Obama DOJ to have participated in a cover-up, and that Attorney General Eric Holder himself was not honest regarding his own participation in the scandal.

D.C. Insiders with significant Congressional contacts suggest the Issa investigation is now entering an even more significant stage that will focus almost entirely on the Department of Justice’s role in the Gunrunner scandal – namely Attorney General Eric Holder. Perhaps most interesting in this development is the zeal to investigate Eric Holder has reportedly gained momentum from not just Republicans in Congress, but a growing number of Democrats as well.[/quote]

[quote] [B][U]UPDATE:[/U][/B] Within an hour of publishing this article, Frederick Hill, a member of Congressman Darrell Issa’s staff, gave the following statement to the media: “The (Gunrunner) investigations are far from over – it’s quite certain that Kenneth Melson was not the principal architect of this plan nor was he the only high-ranking official who knew about and authorized this operation.” [B]Hill went on to indicate that even if Melson resigns, the Committee expects to find much more and continue with investigations.[/B][/quote][B]So many "racists," so little time. [/B]

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Another source: [URL]http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/21/issa-staffer-gunrunner-investigation-points-much-higher-than-atf-director/[/URL]

[quote] A spokesman for House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa told The Daily Caller the congressman expects his investigations into the Justice Department’s gun walking programs to point to a much higher political appointee than acting ATF director Kenneth Melson.

Melson is widely expected to resign some time in the next couple of days in the face of political pressure from Issa’s investigations into Project Gunrunner and Operation Fast Furious.

Even if Melson resigns, Issa spokesman Frederick Hill said the Committee expects to find much more and continue with investigations.

“The investigations are far from over,” Hill told TheDC. “It’s quite certain that Kenneth Melson was not the principal architect of this plan nor was he the only high-ranking official who knew about and authorized this operation.”[/quote]

Is ALL this just conspiracy, Illustrious, or do you need to check with your Secret Service agent first? :P

Two more headshots:

[quote]"Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton told TheDC a Melson resignation “would be seen as an admission that something went terribly wrong.” Fitton thinks Project Gunrunner and Operation Fast and Furious were political ploys from the Obama administration, not real law enforcement efforts."[/quote]

[quote]Former El Paso Intelligence Center (EPIC) director Phil Jordan said he thinks this scandal goes as high as Attorney General Eric Holder. From his decades of law enforcement experience working with Washington-based Justice Department officials, Jordan said he’s sure this kind of program would have needed approval from either the Attorney General or one of his direct deputies.[/quote]

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The ATF grunts themselves can clearly see it: [URL]http://cleanupatf.org/forums/index.php?%2Ftopic%2F210-are-doj-and-atf-deliberately-stonewalling-congress%2F[/URL]

Are DOJ and ATF Deliberately Stonewalling Congress?

[quote]It seems to me that DOJ and ATF have, in effect, contemptuously flipped Congress the bird throughout the emerging "Gunrunner/Fast & Furious" scandal. First, they stalled and obfuscated, hoping that it would all just go away if they hunkered down for awhile (Option 1A from the ATF Executive Management Playbook). Then, they [B]lied [/B]like a Persian rug when they told Congress, in writing, that they "did not" sanction or approve the operations which led to the "walking" of guns to Mexico, and ultimately to the death of one or more valiant American law enforcement Officers. Now, they're trying to parse what the meaning of the word "is, is. It's utterly disgusting and should be the subject of massive, "take-no-prisoners" outrage on the part of Congress and every American citizen.

The "performance" of Asst. Attorney General Ronald Weich during last week's hearings, was surely one of the most appalling exercises in semantic evasion and creative stonewalling ever broadcast on live television. He should have simply said, "We all take the 5th", and saved everyone a lot of hassle. The lengthy opening statement he made was so diametrically opposed to obvious reality (i.e., "We have fully cooperated with Congress and intend to continue doing so!"), as to be laughably ludicrous. Only no one is laughing. [B] I call upon the majority party in the House to resist the temptation to get all squishy and "bi-partisan" (aka: wimpy). It's time to go whole-hog at these charlatans who have so ignominiously failed in their sworn duty to uphold the law, and are now lying through their teeth to try and save their own miserable necks.[/B]

No more negotiation. No more courtesy and quarter where none is returned. Obama himself said, "We won" (meaning that the Democrats won the election in `08, and thus, would do whatever THEY wanted, regardless of minority objections". Well, the Republicans won the House last November, and it's time to start acting like winners. Congressmen Issa and Grassley, [B]go for the jugular[/B]. This is the only strategy that has a prayer of turning the Titanic that is DOJ/ATF around before that looming iceberg tears it from stem to stern.

Melson is just a hapless, bumbling, "deer in the headlights" pawn whose 15 minutes of fame has expired. Eric Holder has got to [B]go[/B]. He has been the most ineffective, incompetent, virulently racist, constitutionally violative, and recklessly clueless AG ever to disgrace the office. He ought to be representing dog bite victims in some backwater Small Claims Court.

And inserting (if you'll pardon the expression) Andy Traver as Acting Director, would be just another in a long line of deck chair rearranging parties on[/quote]

And direct evidence that Holder just reverted (as of June 13, the day these hearings began) to an old policy that allowed the arrest of straw purchasers. Another coincidence of course.

[URL]http://cleanupatf.org/forums/index.php?/topic/209-new-june-13-2011-memo-by-eric-holder-on-reducing-gun-violence/[/URL]

[quote]Sipsey Street Exclusive: Straight from Eric Holder's desk. New "Law Enforcement Strategies for Reducing Gun Violence."

"Okay, guys, you remember what I said about straw purchasers? Well, forget it. It just didn't work out, in case you hadn't noticed."

Over the electronic transom I received this document issued Monday by Eric Holder regarding "Law Enforcement Strategies for Reducing Gun Violence." Although I received it pdf form, I transcribed it to shield the source of this document from easy trace.

This memo announces a crack-down on straw purchasers, something that the October 2009 DOJ policy meeting declared was no longer of particular concern.

You will note that this memo is dated the same day as the first Gunwalker hearing, and reverts to the old policy of catching straw buyers and rolling them, something the agents at Wednesday's hearing bitterly complained that they were not allowed to do under Gunwalker.[/quote]

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The story that keeps unfolding and even has LA Times admitting something's amiss in this debacle:

[URL]http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-atf-guns-20111004,0,6104103.story?track=lat-pick[/URL]

[quote]Memos from 2010 show some in senior positions were aware of tactics used in a surveillance operation in which firearms were allowed into Mexico in a failed effort to catch drug cartel leaders.[/quote]

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Of course, Eric Holder is one of the prominent senior position-holders who denied having known anything about this operation:

[URL]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/07/holder-denies-prior-knowledge-fast-and-furious/[/URL]

Since he denied any prior knowledge earlier this summer in the above hearings, this makes him guilty of perjury when taken in conjunction with the story on LA Times. This coverup continues to unravel...the more stonewalling, the guiltier they appear.