Watched this tonight with the wife. A very good and moving movie with a tremendous job from Sean Penn. Highlt recomend it.

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I saw penn and that dude from pineapple express making out in the first 5 minutes and turned it off. I couldn't stomach it.

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^ what a shame you missed out on a very good movie

was that anywhere worse than the "dry hump" in brokeback mountain or couldnt you watch that either? ;)

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[quote=Kamal;723100]I saw penn and that dude from pineapple express making out in the first 5 minutes and turned it off. I couldn't stomach it.[/quote]

That's to bad Kamal.

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[QUOTE=Adzey;723115]^ what a shame you missed out on a very good movie

was that anywhere worse than the "dry hump" in brokeback mountain or couldnt you watch that either? ;)[/QUOTE]

No I heard about the brave shot from brokeback and have never watched that movie either.

[QUOTE=coleby761;723137]That's to bad Kamal.[/QUOTE]

I know mate, I know Sean's a great actor and having won an award for this flick, I was really tempted to watch it but shit I couldn't watch 2 dudes make out like that. I just couldn't. It's in the same vein as watching movies with extreme violence. I know there's a French movie I posted about earlier (don't remember its name) but it was so graphic, almost threw up watching it.

Sorry :( ... I know I probably missed a great watch.

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I understand the feeling Kamal. My brother-in law is openly gay and has helped open my eyes. For many years holidays and stuff made me uncomfortable I just got the same feeling watching this as i do when I watch something about Mlk Jr. Cheers bro

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i heard it's like star wars for gays.

i'll take a miss on this one, only because i've never been impressed with sean penn. (save for fast times....)

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k: you'd be perfectly happy if it was two women tho!

this is a great film - I just watched it this weekend too. Penn is superb in it - but the movie has a great story and good pacing of telling the story as well as character development.

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[QUOTE=Huggie Smiles;723169]k: you'd be perfectly happy if it was two women tho![/QUOTE]

:lol::lol:

in any event the French movie I was talking about was irreversible

[url]http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28805[/url]

My original review

[QUOTE=Kamal;336589]What a mind bending fuck up of a flick. It's actually a french flick thats supposedly about a rape and revenge story. Here's a brief snippet about the movie from Netflix

The fact that it was nominated for an award made me rent it, but holy crap its designed to mess with your head.

I watched the movie for all of 15 minutes and ended up turning it off because it made me so neaseaus. The camera just does not sit still, its like suspended from the cieling by a spring and its trying to maintain focus on the subject. To add to it, its constantly night so the darkness with a background "siren" soundtrack was adding to the mess this movie was making of my mind.

Finally, the gore in the first part of the movie was just ewwww. They actually showed male genitalia on several occasions (within the first 15 minutes itself - shot in a gay club) and a guy getting clubbed in the face with a Fire Extinguisher. And no not just once, the guy doing the clubbing went at it gradually fracturing the face, cleaning out the teeth, sqiushing one eye ball out... turned it off after that....

what I could make out was the movie was playing in reverse.... I'd give it a 3/10 for a shitty start and not having to see the middle or even getting to the end[/QUOTE]

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to me, there is a huge difference between 2 consenting partners and brutal violence and rape - I cant watch that brutal stuff either. go back and watch Milky Brokeback now!

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[QUOTE=Huggie Smiles;723172]to me, there is a huge difference between 2 consenting partners and brutal violence and rape - I cant watch that brutal stuff either. go back and watch Milky Brokeback now![/QUOTE]

there is a difference in the action but it has the same net result to me. i cant watch it. I guess I'm just conservative to a degree about this stuff. I'm not condoning it don't get me wrong, I just can't watch it with a large pop-corn and soda.... if you get my drift.

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[quote=Mariner1;723162] i'll take a miss on this one, only because i've never been impressed with sean penn. (save for fast times....)[/quote]

i used to think you sometimes talked sense but now..... :what

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Honestly call me homophobic but I am not big on Gay Cinema therefore I stay clear of certain films...I guess I really just don't care about gay rights and their problems.

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[quote=Adzey;723182]i used to think you sometimes talked sense but now..... :what[/quote]

What doesn't make sense to you? I have never been impressed with Sean Penn as an actor, save for Fast Times at Ridgemont High. What is not clear about that, what ambiguities do you see there that are hard to make sense of?

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i just think anyone that can say they have not been impressed by sean penn as an actor is talking shite

just my 2 cents :D

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[quote=Adzey;723271]i just think anyone that can say they have not been impressed by sean penn as an actor is talking shite

just my 2 cents :D[/quote]

fair play. Tell ya what, I'll go see the upcoming Three Stooges. But I can't think it would change my mind. He can act, sure, but he's not a great actor; i think he's mechanical, in a way.

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out of interest what actors do you like?

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He bitch slapped Madonna...you gotta give him credit for that fo' soooo

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[quote=Mariner1;723275] he's not a great actor.[/quote]

who are the great actors?

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[quote=Shpira;723245]Honestly call me homophobic but I am not big on Gay Cinema therefore I stay clear of certain films...I guess I really just don't care about gay rights and their problems.[/quote]

so why even post here - :what 'koff

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Brando. Grant. Fonda. Newman. Freeman. Spacey. Malkovich. Nicholson. Pacino. Caine. Hopkins. Day-Lewis. Ford.

I think behind that are some other great actors. Fiennes, Walken, Redford, Norton, DeNiro, and Murray, but I would be hard-pressed to put them in the top list above.

I mean, what has Penn done that was so amazing? Milk is his biggest movie in some time (I thought Mystic River was total shit. just utter, utter shit). I mean, for him, we're going back to 1995 with Dead Man Walking, which I guess was ok. But, to call him a great actor with such a sparse record of great lead acting, is a hard argument to make to me.

I don't even know if i could put him in a top 40. I mean, there are actors out there that have 2, maybe 3 times more great acting parts than penn has mediocre parts. Connery? Costner? Bridges? Jackson? Travolta? Even DiCaprio does a better job acting than Penn.

Anyways.

There you have it.

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I would at least add him to your 2nd list, thought he was excellent in I Am Sam, All the Kings Men, Mystic River, Milk.

I gained a lot of respect for Penn for taking action in New Orleans after Katrina btw.

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I dug it. I dislike Penn as a person (sometimes takes himself too seriously - see the letter he wrote to Trey Parker and Matt Stone for proof) and I really hated I Am Sam (saw it as cheap Oscar bait - going for the Rain Man vote), but he really did disappear into the role and deserved the recognition that he got. What really impressed me is how Gus Van Sant manages to get some great and very convincing performances out of his cast like James Franco, Emile Hirsh and others.

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[quote=Shpira;723245]Honestly call me homophobic but I am not big on Gay Cinema therefore I stay clear of certain films...I guess I really just don't care about gay rights and their problems.[/quote]

Don't care about their rights? Nice dude.

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I like gay people and have nothing against them or related to their lifestyle , art , stories etc. pretty much most of them I find them straight forward, friendly, and lively.

btw the other day I found it interesting and it didnt bother me at all when I saw that video History of house music , that the roots of House music were based on a gay scene .

Anyways regarding this movie I got to say i really enjoyed it , now Sean penn even know i think he is a dick and has made many homophobic comments , thought that the way he played this role was splendid, just shows what an amazing actor he is .

The dynamism of the film was pretty good , this is something I would def. watch again.

4 out of 5 stars :)

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[quote=floridaorange;723445]I would at least add him to your 2nd list, thought he was excellent in I Am Sam, All the Kings Men, Mystic River, Milk.

I gained a lot of respect for Penn for taking action in New Orleans after Katrina btw.[/quote]

true. he did do quite a bit down there in helping. But that, or any other philanthropic work he does, should not be factored into stage skills. I think the guy is actually more known for his activism than his acting, until Milk came out, that is.

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[quote=coleby761;723498]Don't care about their rights? Nice dude.[/quote]

apathy does not necessarily entertain ill-will?

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^^ you didn't like him in "The Game"? I thought he played the spoiled disgruntled younger brother rather well.

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He was very good as the lawyer also in Carlito's Way far from mechanical imo

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He's one of the best actors of our generation, like him or hate him :lol:

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Thought he was great in dead man walking too.

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I just watched this the other day thought it was a great movie...really well written script and great acting!

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Wow this was surprisingly good. And I say 'surprising' not because I don't rate Penn, I was expecting a slow boring film but got really drawn into it. Penn is one helluva actor, amazing. [Oops spoiler] so it was quite saddening when it happened. Top film.

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^^^ Spoiler alert feather!!!

Ah well... I'd still like to watch this one.