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The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe

41 durable postsStarted 2005-06-13Latest 2006-08-01
#15929Post 1 of 41

I read about this somewhere, but don't see it in a search. I read the first of the books when I was a kid and it was great, and am real excited to see this become a movie... even if it IS a Disney movie. Anybody else heard about this production?

If you look around their site, you can find a spoiler trailer for the movie, and they even say that the special effects are being done by the same people that did the effects for Lord of the Rings... should be pure class.

[b][u][url]http://adisney.go.com/disneypictures/narnia/index.html[/url][/u][/b]

:Respect:

#437924Post 2 of 41

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i saw some making of the chronicles of narnia recently.
it looks like theyre financiers (disney?) are dumping a lot of resources into making it look cool. a lot of weird animals like centaurs and shit. all i have to say is this is hollywoods first attempt at epic fantasy after the lord of the ring masterpieces. and thats not an easy act to follow.

#439167Post 3 of 41

i saw a preview for it before star wars. the previews gave me chills man! i remember seeing the movie and reading the book(s) back when i was a kid. i absolutely [b]cannot wait[/b] to see this.

#439588Post 4 of 41

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Saw the trailer last week in New Zealand, where most of it has been filmed... looks wicked. Out in December ? about the same time as Peter Jackson's King Kong :D

#439596Post 5 of 41

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love the books, saw the cartoon as a kid. lok forward to this almost as much as the Charlie and the Chocolate Factory

#447982Post 6 of 41

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thiis one of my favorite books of all time, i know its all fantasy and that but when i was a kid, this book made me think alot...cant wait to see it on the big screen

#448110Post 7 of 41

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One of the big entertainment rags had a big expose on it a few months back -- looks amazing alright. Apparently they're trying to set it up like the LOTR in style and content - quality acting, lights out sfx, and aim it at both adults and kids. I can't imagine they would have an individual film for each book (what was there 7? 8?), that's a huge gamble on the studio's part, they'll probably tie a few together into one larger film.

Big fan of the series as well - haven't read them in ages but I remember "Voyage of the Dawn Treader" very clearly. I never knew until recently that C.S. Lewis and JRR Tolkien were close friends, even had each other edit some of the other's work - certainly explains the similarities in the tone and quality of the two writer's stuff. Great reads.

#448113Post 8 of 41

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There are 7 books... The Magician's Nephew Quiz

The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe Quiz

The Horse and His Boy Quiz

Prince Caspian Quiz

The Voyage of the Dawn Treader Quiz

The Silver Chair Quiz

The Last Battle Quiz

I agree that they would need to combine books into one movie if they make more than one. The books are a lot shorts than the likes of Harry Potter and LOTR. Look forward to this!

#452063Post 9 of 41

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I'm hoping this will not be an animated series.

Hopefully it will be something along the lines of Spiderman in terms of fx etc.

#452083Post 10 of 41

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[quote=rag21]I'm hoping this will not be an animated series.

Hopefully it will be something along the lines of Spiderman in terms of fx etc.[/quote] did you even click the link I posted?

:roll:

#453388Post 11 of 41

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Apparently the screenwriting has already been commissioned for Prince Caspian and if the franchise proves successful The Last Battle is likely to complete the trilogy... Apparently.

#455501Post 12 of 41

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[quote=mixu]Apparently the screenwriting has already been commissioned for Prince Caspian and if the franchise proves successful The Last Battle is likely to complete the trilogy... Apparently.[/quote]

so they are going to make 3 movies out of 7 books?

due to the size of the books, I think that makes more sense. not like they are Harry Potter size books.

#495817Post 13 of 41

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December 9th.. I'm really looking forward to this

#496205Post 14 of 41

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I read The Lion, The Witch, And The Wardrobe when I was younger. I loved the book, and remember watching a movie that was either on BBC or Public Television. I can't remember. It wasn't animated though.

#525955Post 15 of 41

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anyone else really looking forward to this? i saw a show the other day about the graphics used to make a lot of the characters... amazing! the way they bring Aslan to life.. I can't wait to see it

#526254Post 16 of 41

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didnt know that it was from a book, but i saw a preview when i went to see harry poter and i was more exited to see that preview than the movie itself hehehe......pretty cool effects.....

#526490Post 17 of 41

Chronicles of Narnia

[COLOR=navy][COLOR=magenta]This movie was Absolutely Fabulous!! I read & LoVeD the Lion, Witch & the Wardrobe series when I was younger & This movie is visually Spectacular & the special effects are Awesome! Aslan's character was everything you could ever dream of him being as a child (or a big kid in an adult's body[/COLOR] ;) [/COLOR][COLOR=magenta])[/COLOR] [COLOR=magenta]For anyone else who followed this series when you were younger, it's a Must See while it's in the theater! It Won't let you down!! [/COLOR] [COLOR=magenta]& for anyone who didn't read the stories see it anyways.... [/COLOR] [COLOR=magenta]((& be like us & go at 11:15 am, so there's no crowd there[/COLOR] :D [COLOR=magenta])[/COLOR]

#526491Post 18 of 41

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[COLOR=yellow][B] sorry- re-post[/B][/COLOR]

#526882Post 19 of 41

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I never read the books.

The movie was worse than smelling my own ball sweat after a 3 hour hike in the middle of summer. Not that I've ever done that before, but after seeing Narnia, I'd choose my ball sweat over seeing that movie again.

I have to remind myself that this movie was intended for children. Kids would love it - but kids are dumb like that :)

The oopma-loompa needs a beating... he seemed out of place in Charlie and the Chocolate factory, let alone Narnia.

#527116Post 20 of 41

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definitely for kids, skip this one...

#527250Post 21 of 41

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Wow! You thougt it was that bad huh? Did you read the books when you were little? Did you go cuz you wanted to, or was it someone wanting you to go with them, so your attitude was already kinda ball sweaty!?!? :roll:

#527332Post 22 of 41

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[quote=Steve Graham]anyone else really looking forward to this? i saw a show the other day about the graphics used to make a lot of the characters... amazing! the way they bring Aslan to life.. I can't wait to see it[/quote]

I saw that too. The computer graphics for the animated, talking and walking Lion were stunning. The film makers said that the technology and artistry had finally reached a point so that they could make this movie. There are tons of other creatures in it also.

As far as "only children should see this" goes, they showed some battle scenes that looked like Lord of the Rings...

#527655Post 23 of 41

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[quote=darkmark] As far as "only children should see this" goes, they showed some battle scenes that looked like Lord of the Rings...[/quote]

Some battles scenes seemed like left over stock footage from Lord of the Rings... I swear I saw orcs on many occassions!

CrazyMadFlyGirl: I took my little brother... but my balls were fresh & clean before the movie started! Go Baby Powder!

#527806Post 24 of 41

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[quote=CrazyMadFlyGirl]Wow! You thougt it was that bad huh? Did you read the books when you were little? Did you go cuz you wanted to, or was it someone wanting you to go with them, so your attitude was already kinda ball sweaty!?!? :roll:[/quote]

umm no, you moron. read what i said...i said it was for kids, not that it was bad.

i am well aware of the books, i read them when i was young. some more kid-oriented books work well as movies that can appeal to both children and adults (ie. harry potter or LOTR), unfortunately narnia didnt. it was well produced, and its obvious they put alot of money into it...but it was definitely only trying to appeal towards kids. the entire group of people i saw it with were laughing inappropriately just because of how silly some of it was...

#527882Post 25 of 41

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[quote=day_for_night]umm no, you moron. read what i said...i said it was for kids, not that it was bad. [/quote]

I think her comments were meant for me ;)

nonetheless, you've made very valid points about why Narnia sucked donkey balls.

I never read the books. I didn't see the movie because I wanted to, but rather because I took someone who did. So my expectations weren't high to begin with...

SPOILER

...but when Santa Clause started giving away weapons to kids I realized that this movie wasn't made for people like me - that is, people with good taste :p

endSPOILER

#528030Post 26 of 41

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haha woops, she was definitely talking to you. either way...

#528250Post 27 of 41

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I came across an article today which suggest that this movie is thinly veiled Christian propaganda.

[QUOTE] 'Narnia represents everything that is most hateful about religion' Children won't get the Christian subtext, but unbelievers should keep a sickbag handy during Disney's new epic, writes Polly Toynbee

Polly Toynbee Monday December 5, 2005 Guardian

Aslan the lion shakes his mighty mane and roars out across Narnia and eternity. Christ is risen! However, not many British children these days will get the message. The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe opens this week to take up the mantle left by The Lord of the Rings. CS Lewis's seven children's books, The Chronicles of Narnia, will be with us now and for many Christmases to come. Only Harry Potter has outsold these well-loved books' 85 million copies. How suitable that one fantasy saga should follow on from the other, despite the immense difference between the writings and magic worlds of these two old Oxford dons. It was JRR Tolkien who converted CS Lewis to Christianity during one long all-night walk that ended in dawn and revelation. Narnia is a strange blend of magic, myth and Christianity, some of it brilliantly fantastical and richly imaginative, some (the clunking allegory) toe-curlingly, cringingly awful.

This new Disney film is a remarkably faithful rendition of the book - faithful in both senses. It is beautiful to look at and wonderfully acted. The four English children and their world are all authentically CS Lewis olde England. But from its opening scenes of the bombing of their Finchley home in the blitz and the tear-jerking evacuation from their mother in a (spotlessly clean) steam train, there is an emotional undertow to this film that tugs on the heart-strings from the first frames. By the end, it feels profoundly manipulative, as Disney usually does. But then, that is also deeply faithful to the book's own arm-twisting emotional call to believers.

Disney is deliberately promoting this film to the religious - it has appointed Outreach, an evangelical publisher, to promote the Christian message behind the movie in British churches. The Christian radio station Premier is urging churches to hold services on the theme of The Gospel According to Narnia. Even the Methodists have written a special Narnia-themed service. And a Kent parish is giving away £10,000 worth of film tickets to single-parent families. (Are the children of single mothers in special need of the word?)

US born-agains are using the movie. The Mission America Coalition is "inviting church leaders around the country to consider the fantastic ministry opportunity presented by the release of this film". The president's brother, Jeb Bush, the governor of Florida, is organising a scheme for every child in his state to read the book. Walden Media, co-producer of the movie, offers a "17-week Narnia Bible study for children". The owner of Walden Media is both a big Republican donor and a donor to the Florida governor's book promotion - a neat synergy of politics, religion and product placement. It has aroused protests from Americans United for Separation of Church and State, which complains that "a governmental endorsement of the book's religious message is in violation of the First Amendment to the US Constitution".

Disney may come to regret this alliance with Christians, at least on this side of the Atlantic. For all the enthusiasm of the churches, Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ bombed in Britain and warehouses are stuffed with unsold DVDs of that stomach-churner. There are too few practising Christians in the empty pews of this most secular nation to pack cinemas. So there has been a queasy ambivalence about how to sell the Narnia film here. Its director, Andrew Adamson (of Shrek fame), says the movie's Christian themes are "open to the audience to interpret". One soundtrack album of the film has been released with religious music, the other with secular pop.

Most British children will be utterly clueless about any message beyond the age-old mythic battle between good and evil. Most of the fairy story works as well as any Norse saga, pagan legend or modern fantasy, so only the minority who are familiar with Christian iconography will see Jesus in the lion. After all, 43% of people in Britain in a recent poll couldn't say what Easter celebrated. Among the young - apart from those in faith schools - that number must be considerably higher. Ask art galleries: they now have to write the story of every religious painting on the label as people no longer know what "agony in the garden", "deposition", "transfiguration" or "ascension" mean. This may be regrettable cultural ignorance, but it means Aslan will stay just a lion to most movie-goers.

All the same, children may puzzle over the lion and ask embarrassing questions. For non-CS Lewis aficionados, here is a recap. The four children enter Narnia through a wardrobe and find themselves in a land frozen into "always winter, never Christmas" by the white witch, (played with elemental force by Tilda Swinton). Unhappy middle child Edmund, resentful of being bossed about by his older brother, broods with meanness and misery. The devil, in the shape of the witch, tempts him: for the price of several chunks of turkish delight, rather than 30 pieces of silver, Edmund betrays his siblings and their Narnian friends.

The sins of this "son of Adam" can only be redeemed by the supreme sacrifice of Aslan. This Christ-lion willingly lays down his life, submitting himself to be bound, thrashed and humiliated by the white witch, allowing his golden mane to be cut and himself to be slaughtered on the sacrificial stone table: it cracks in sympathetic agony and his body goes missing. The two girls lay down their heads and weep, Magdalene and Mary-like. Be warned, the film lingers long and lovingly over all this.

But so far, so good. The story makes sense. The lion exchanging his life for Edmund's is the sort of thing Arthurian legends are made of. Parfait knights and heroes in prisoner-of-war camps do it all the time. But what's this? After a long, dark night of the soul and women's weeping, the lion is suddenly alive again. Why? How?, my children used to ask. Well, it is hard to say why. It does not make any more sense in CS Lewis's tale than in the gospels. Ah, Aslan explains, it is the "deep magic", where pure sacrifice alone vanquishes death.

Of all the elements of Christianity, the most repugnant is the notion of the Christ who took our sins upon himself and sacrificed his body in agony to save our souls. Did we ask him to? Poor child Edmund, to blame for everything, must bear the full weight of a guilt only Christians know how to inflict, with a twisted knife to the heart. Every one of those thorns, the nuns used to tell my mother, is hammered into Jesus's holy head every day that you don't eat your greens or say your prayers when you are told. So the resurrected Aslan gives Edmund a long, life-changing talking-to high up on the rocks out of our earshot. When the poor boy comes back down with the sacred lion's breath upon him he is transformed unrecognisably into a Stepford brother, well and truly purged.

Tolkien hated Narnia: the two dons may have shared the same love of unquestioning feudal power, with worlds of obedient plebs and inferior folk eager to bend at the knee to any passing superior white persons - even children; both their fantasy worlds and their Christianity assumes that rigid hierarchy of power - lord of lords, king of kings, prince of peace to be worshipped and adored. But Tolkien disliked Lewis's bully-pulpit.

Over the years, others have had uneasy doubts about the Narnian brand of Christianity. Christ should surely be no lion (let alone with the orotund voice of Liam Neeson). He was the lamb, representing the meek of the earth, weak, poor and refusing to fight. Philip Pullman - he of the marvellously secular trilogy His Dark Materials - has called Narnia "one of the most ugly, poisonous things I have ever read".

Why? Because here in Narnia is the perfect Republican, muscular Christianity for America - that warped, distorted neo-fascist strain that thinks might is proof of right. I once heard the famous preacher Norman Vincent Peel in New York expound a sermon that reassured his wealthy congregation that they were made rich by God because they deserved it. The godly will reap earthly reward because God is on the side of the strong. This appears to be CS Lewis's view, too. In the battle at the end of the film, visually a great epic treat, the child crusaders are crowned kings and queens for no particular reason. Intellectually, the poor do not inherit Lewis's earth.

Does any of this matter? Not really. Most children will never notice. But adults who wince at the worst elements of Christian belief may need a sickbag handy for the most religiose scenes. The Guardian film critic Peter Bradshaw gives the film five stars and says, "There is no need for anyone to get into a PC huff about its Christian allegory." Well, here's my huff.

Lewis said he hoped the book would soften-up religious reflexes and "make it easier for children to accept Christianity when they met it later in life". Holiness drenches the Chronicles. When, in the book, the children first hear someone say, mysteriously, "Aslan is on the move", he writes: "Now a very curious thing happened. None of the children knew who Aslan was any more than you do; but the moment the Beaver had spoken these words everyone felt quite different. Perhaps it has sometimes happened to you in a dream that someone says something which you don't understand but in the dream it feels as if it had enormous meaning ..." So Lewis weaves his dreams to invade children's minds with Christian iconography that is part fairytale wonder and joy - but heavily laden with guilt, blame, sacrifice and a suffering that is dark with emotional sadism.

Children are supposed to fall in love with the hypnotic Aslan, though he is not a character: he is pure, raw, awesome power. He is an emblem for everything an atheist objects to in religion. His divine presence is a way to avoid humans taking responsibility for everything here and now on earth, where no one is watching, no one is guiding, no one is judging and there is no other place yet to come. Without an Aslan, there is no one here but ourselves to suffer for our sins, no one to redeem us but ourselves: we are obliged to settle our own disputes and do what we can. We need no holy guide books, only a very human moral compass. Everyone needs ghosts, spirits, marvels and poetic imaginings, but we can do well without an Aslan.

· The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe is released on Thursday [/QUOTE]

#528266Post 28 of 41

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as were the books i thought :?:

#528723Post 29 of 41

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[quote=day_for_night]haha woops, she was definitely talking to you. either way...[/quote]

Yah- I sure was Big Meanie (i.e. moron) :evil: lol... ;)

#528799Post 30 of 41

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were the special effects good? i heard they were not, but they looked good on the preview

#528802Post 31 of 41

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[quote=Kobe]I came across an article today which suggest that this movie is thinly veiled Christian propaganda.[/quote]

if you read the books you will defo get that impression.. but i just took it for what it was... a great story.. religious or not, i didnt care, because i am not a religious fanatic either way. :D

and by the way.. MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!

one more person says happy holidays to me is getting kicked in the head, lol

#530230Post 32 of 41

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[quote=Steve Graham] and by the way.. MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!

one more person says happy holidays to me is getting kicked in the head, lol[/quote]

HaPpY HoLiDaYs SG... :twisted: (I'll kick you back if you kick me on Friday:lol: )

#536063Post 33 of 41

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Finally saw the movie. I enjoyed it minus the cliche young screaming girl.

#610798Post 34 of 41

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just finished watching it and I loved it. When I was a kid, my mom used to take me and my sister to our babysitter's house. Every night Suzie would read a new section of the book series to me, my sister, and her two younger brothers while babysitting... without question this movie is made for kids, but being one of those nostalgic big kids FlyGirl is talking about, I love it.

#610839Post 35 of 41

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I saw the movie, but didn't like it at all. I was very disappointed about the special effects :(

#618029Post 36 of 41

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it sucks real bad, and thats sad

#676032Post 37 of 41

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[COLOR=Red]The Chronicles Of Narnia Rulesss , that film contains great special effects, some very talented artists worked hard on that :D

I still love the old series that was on the tv, "The Lion The Witch & The Wardrobe"

x[/COLOR]

#676114Post 38 of 41

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[quote]Originally Posted by [B]Kobe[/B] [I]I came across an article today which suggest that this movie is thinly veiled Christian propaganda.[/I]

if you read the books you will defo get that impression.. but i just took it for what it was... a great story.. religious or not, i didnt care, because i am not a religious fanatic either way. :D [/quote]

[quote] According to C. S. Lewis his fantasies for children - his Narnia series of seven books beginning with [I]The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe [/I]and ending with [I]The Last Battle [/I]- were deliberate works of Christian propaganda. The books are a kind of Religious Tract Society version of the Oz books as written by E. Nesbit; but E. Nesbit would rarely have allowed herself Lewis's awful syntax, full of tacked-on clauses, lame qualifications, vague adjectives and unconscious repetitions; neither would she have written down to children as thoroughly as this childless don who remained a devoutly committed bachelor most of his life. Both Baum and Nesbit wrote more vigorously and more carefully:[/quote] - from Epic Pooh by Michael Moorcock

[QUOTE]Many parts of the books may seem rather out-of-place, but make sense in light of the symbolism they carry. In the 5th book in the series, [I]The Voyage of the[/I] Dawn Treader, Aslan turns from a lamb into a lion and tells the children that he brought them to Narnia to learn his other name on Earth. Christ was called the Lamb of God in the Bible, and it is almost certain that he meant the name Jesus. Also, in [I]The Silver Chair[/I], the dead King Caspian is brought to Aslan's territory, where Caspian lay in a river. Aslan commands Eustace to prick his paw with a thorn, and Aslan lets the blood drop on Caspian, who in turn comes alive. This is symbolic of how only Jesus's blood when he died on the cross could bring man to heaven (and give them life), and the water that purifies. The thorn is symbolic of the crown of thorns, and that Eustace pricked his paw is symbolic of how man put Christ on the cross. In the Bible, Jesus is also referred to as the Lion of the Tribe of Judah [/QUOTE]

#677478Post 39 of 41

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The movie lacked a middle and ending. Its amazing how the 2 boys can learn to use a sword and lead an army in just 2 days. :roll:

#682856Post 40 of 41

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yeah it was pretty badly lack of good emotion and real sense

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